TV THE HEROES THREAD: [SPOILERS]

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Hmm..
Adam Monroe = Kensei
Well, that's sure interesting...big twist there
My guess was right, Kensei was trying to trick peter, but he now has some of his memory back, maybe he'll figure out Kensei's plan?
Now we know the true extent of Matt's and his father's powers, which probably means that Matt's father erased peter's memory? Bob even said that Matt's father is only part of Monroe's plan. He the one pulling the strings which means that Matt's father has to listen.
Now Monroe's trying to get Peter on his side, because he knows the extent of Peter's power, and knows that Peter's vulnerable.
Suresh kills Bennet to help Nikki? It seems like a bit of a stretch, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised. The only 2 pictures left are Suresh holding a smoking gun, and Bennet dead...could be linked

 

[Lohnt]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Shit! Why did I enter this thread before watching the new episode -_-

damn nbc for not allowing people outside the US to view heroes online!

 

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

The Haitian for sure is the guy who deleted... err... erased Peter's memory. they showed it in the sneak peaks. As for Bennet's death, well I guess nothing is going to stop him from dying. As for Heroes as a whole, is everyone aware of all of major television and movie writer strike? If the writers don't get payed for online and dvd sales then they won't write. So far Heroes has only been written up to episode 11 of this season, so if the strike lasts too long prepare for Dec 3rd to be the season finale.

 

[kiddo7]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

wow, this episode totaly blew me away. I absolutely did not see that coming at the end.
I was right about hiro becoming kensei, I was wrong about hiro being the dragon, (was my favorite theory) and stalker boy is an absolute idiot and he deserved the mean surprise he got, see this is why it does not pay to be a smart ass know it all. HRG is probably taking it too far, I would be sad if he became the villain again. though it seems inevitable that he will die because it was in the painting. although new york exploding was also painted and yet it was averted, so he might have a slim chance. I also think peter will eventually stop following adam because he has seen the future.
Boy, am I glad I did not read new posts in this thread since friday!
Can't wait for the episode after next week! (next week's should be interesting too but it will not continue this story.)

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Hmm... the hatian?
But what would he have to gain by erasing Peter's memory? It would make a lot more sense if it was Matt's father or someone that has a relation with Kensei...
But atleast now I get as to why there's Kensei's sign on the pictures of Angela, Bob and Kaito...Is kensei trying to seek revenge on Hiro for stealing his love, or on people with powers in general?
The company is obivously against Kensei, so does that make them good...or bad?
In the picture o Mr. Bennet dead, it shows Claire kissing someone(looks like West), but they just broke up didn't they...so will they get back together, or is it really someone else?

 

[Lohnt]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Kensei isn't a bad guy as far as I can tell.

He hasn't done anything wrong or evil, he's been suppressing people with powers, had his company capture and subdue both Jessica and Syler and stopped that Tsunami, along with all the other tragedies they've probably helped avert.

However, his antagonist is Hiro. And he wants to kill him. Good guys can have people they hate and want to kill, just watch any other show and you'll see what I mean. We've just been introduced to Hiro as a hero to this point, but good people do make mistakes, and they do do bad things, they must pay for.

Hiro F#$ked with the first mutant, he must pay. It's like anyone that messes wth Apocalypse or Namor, they get their butts kicked.

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Also Peter needs to continue following Adam until Syler gets his powers back. With Peter on the 'good guys' (Heroes side), they have too much power, once Syler joins the "villains" again, there will be a balance.

 

[destinator]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

As for Heroes as a whole, is everyone aware of all of major television and movie writer strike? If the writers don't get payed for online and dvd sales then they won't write. So far Heroes has only been written up to episode 11 of this season, so if the strike lasts too long prepare for Dec 3rd to be the season finale.

Actually this a super big threat to heroes. So far they have made 13 episodes, however many sources stat that they have made an alternate ending for episode 11. Also Heroes Origins was closed down already due to this thing. For a series that really depends a lot on story/screen time this is very bad...actually this could really harm the whole series, but we will see...

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

As it seem I was also right to thought that Mohinder is going to kill Bennet.. (maybe they going to surprise me with a twist)

And I was also right about doubting whether or not the company is good or bad..
Out of the previous eight paintings, six had already happened (in the past/ future)
Nikki may or will be the first victims of the new virus, and nathan is probably going to die too.

I have to say that I too, is surprised about this episode. About Mohinder killing Mr. Bennet, there's a great possibility that this might happen. Mohinder confessed to Bob that he was working with Mr. Bennet. I think Mohinder is starting to feel that Mr. Bennet is the bad guy in this whole thing.

Don't forget that in this episode, Nathan finds out something very important: Peter is alive! I can't wait for the nxt episode.

Hmm..
Adam Monroe = Kensei
Well, that's sure interesting...big twist there
My guess was right, Kensei was trying to trick peter, but he now has some of his memory back, maybe he'll figure out Kensei's plan?
Now we know the true extent of Matt's and his father's powers, which probably means that Matt's father erased peter's memory? Bob even said that Matt's father is only part of Monroe's plan. He the one pulling the strings which means that Matt's father has to listen.
Now Monroe's trying to get Peter on his side, because he knows the extent of Peter's power, and knows that Peter's vulnerable.
Suresh kills Bennet to help Nikki? It seems like a bit of a stretch, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised. The only 2 pictures left are Suresh holding a smoking gun, and Bennet dead...could be linked

That was one of the biggest twist of the season,Takezo Kensei is Adam Monroe?!! Now, I see why Claire is so important. She has the same power as Adam Monroe, doesn't she? And wasn't Adam like the leader of the group of twelve at a time? It wasn't Matt's father that erased Peter's memory. I'm pretty sure it was the Haitian since we saw him on a plane with Peter on the preview of the next episode.

Shit! Why did I enter this thread before watching the new episode -_-

damn nbc for not allowing people outside the US to view heroes online!

Oh, that's too bad man. Anyways, here's a link where u could watch it online.

http://www.cucirca.com/2007/11/02/heroes-season-2-episode-7-out-of-time/

The Haitian for sure is the guy who deleted... err... erased Peter's memory. they showed it in the sneak peaks. As for Bennet's death, well I guess nothing is going to stop him from dying. As for Heroes as a whole, is everyone aware of all of major television and movie writer strike? If the writers don't get payed for online and dvd sales then they won't write. So far Heroes has only been written up to episode 11 of this season, so if the strike lasts too long prepare for Dec 3rd to be the season finale.

Yep, it looks like the Haitian will be the one to cause Peter to lose his memory. However, in the preview it seems that Peter was not fighting against it.
I really hope that these writers get what they want I would not want to see the Heroes ending so soon.

wow, this episode totaly blew me away. I absolutely did not see that coming at the end.
I was right about hiro becoming kensei, I was wrong about hiro being the dragon, (was my favorite theory) and stalker boy is an absolute idiot and he deserved the mean surprise he got, see this is why it does not pay to be a smart ass know it all. HRG is probably taking it too far, I would be sad if he became the villain again. though it seems inevitable that he will die because it was in the painting. although new york exploding was also painted and yet it was averted, so he might have a slim chance. I also think peter will eventually stop following adam because he has seen the future.
Boy, am I glad I did not read new posts in this thread since friday!
Can't wait for the episode after next week! (next week's should be interesting too but it will not continue this story.)

This episode seems to really get to lots of people. Yep, it does seem that Hiro became the true Takezo Kensei. Now, what I'm asking myself is this: Is Adam the same Takezo Kensei from the past or did Adam just regenerate and looks exactly like Kensei?
It does look like that HRG is acting bad again and and I think Suresh will use that gun pretty soon since he already has the bandage on his nose. Will Mr. Bennet really be killed?

Personally, I don't think so. I think since Matt is starting to control his power now. He will show Mr. Bennet his worst nightmare. The first one is him being killed and the second one is Claire running off with her boyfriend. It might just be something that Matt or Matt's father would do.

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Adam not being Kensei..but a kensei look alike? Interesting theory...But that would mean that Claire also has the power to "look like" other people...
But if Adam really is the really Kensei, that means Claire can live forever and not age a single day, interesting...
But if Adam has the same power as Claire, that means he also has the same weakness...If he gets stabbed, or shot or something on a specific part on the back of his head, he will die until the obstruction is removed....But wouldn't the original 12 know about this weakness? So if he really was a threat, then they could've killed him, just like that

 

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Adam not being Kensei..but a kensei look alike? Interesting theory...But that would mean that Claire also has the power to "look like" other people...
But if Adam really is the really Kensei, that means Claire can live forever and not age a single day, interesting...
But if Adam has the same power as Claire, that means he also has the same weakness...If he gets stabbed, or shot or something on a specific part on the back of his head, he will die until the obstruction is removed....But wouldn't the original 12 know about this weakness? So if he really was a threat, then they could've killed him, just like that

The regen power probably doesn't have a specific science to it. In all seriousness do you think that alternate future Sylar and present Peter should be able to regenerate after blowing up? Also the radiation that Ted released in Claire's house should have been more then enough to fry her brain and damage all her memory, even with her healing. So I don't think we can "kill" regenerates without taking away their powers. Even then though Bob himself said that Claire is unaffected by regeneration so I guess there is no weakness. Jail is about all thats possible.

Though my theory about aging is that Adam Monroe and Claire stay at their peak. I think Claire can still mature and grow up, because you have to realize that she's had her power ever since the fire she survived in her youth. There is a difference from growing up and growing weak. Adam Monroe hasn't lost any hair because all his hair continues to regenerate and none of his bodily functions quiet. He has reached his peak of an adult and wont get weaker.

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Right now, we cannot be sure if Adam is Kensei or if he's just a reincarnation of Kensei. The best way to find out is when Hiro meets Adam. Will he remember Hiro when he sees him? Or will Adam not recognize who Hiro is?

About the powers of Claire and Adam, I think that they are the same. Since the episode lizard, when Claire regrew her toenail. It made me think that even if Sylar cut took out Claire's brain, that brain would regenerate. At least that's what I think.

 

[weixiaobao]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

spoiler for the next episode... http://heroeswiki.com/Spoiler:Four_Months_Ago
PS... the Haitian was indeed responsible for Peter's memory loss...

 

[DemonDays]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I remember the main company guy (cant remember his name, one who turns things to gold), showing a newspaper clipping to Mohinder just after he asked who Adam was.
It mentioned something about snow, then the guy said something about a tsunami. Thta instantly made me think that he was referring to Adam having the power to control nature (much like Storm from X-Men).
But then when Kensei appeared at the end of the episode, claiming he was Adam, it just seemed a bit off to me. If Kensei was part of this group with 12 members he would have known that Hiro was the son of one of the members.

 

[weixiaobao]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I remember the main company guy (cant remember his name, one who turns things to gold), showing a newspaper clipping to Mohinder just after he asked who Adam was.
It mentioned something about snow, then the guy said something about a tsunami. Thta instantly made me think that he was referring to Adam having the power to control nature (much like Storm from X-Men).
But then when Kensei appeared at the end of the episode, claiming he was Adam, it just seemed a bit off to me. If Kensei was part of this group with 12 members he would have known that Hiro was the son of one of the members.

the alchemy guy is Bob.. and I believe Adams is not part of the 12 but the person who control the 12.... so it should original 13..

And he may not have the power of nature but maybe one of his disciples has it..

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Yeah, but it's the brain that controls her powers...I'm guessing that's why she "died" when she got that stick stuck in her head... That's probably the part of the brain that controls that kind of stuff.

 

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I remember the main company guy (cant remember his name, one who turns things to gold), showing a newspaper clipping to Mohinder just after he asked who Adam was.
It mentioned something about snow, then the guy said something about a tsunami. Thta instantly made me think that he was referring to Adam having the power to control nature (much like Storm from X-Men).
But then when Kensei appeared at the end of the episode, claiming he was Adam, it just seemed a bit off to me. If Kensei was part of this group with 12 members he would have known that Hiro was the son of one of the members.

Well Adam wanted to make Hiro suffer, if he was to take his revenge on hero or affect his life somehow then Hiro would never go back into the past to screw him over. I know its weird but Adam needs Hiro in his life to push his power to their limits in the past and he knows it. Though now that Hiro has come back to the future he is allowed to be evil all over Hiro's ass.

 

[DemonDays]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Well Adam wanted to make Hiro suffer, if he was to take his revenge on hero or affect his life somehow then Hiro would never go back into the past to screw him over. I know its weird but Adam needs Hiro in his life to push his power to their limits in the past and he knows it. Though now that Hiro has come back to the future he is allowed to be evil all over Hiro's ass.

Ahh that is true. I wonder what Kensei has in store for Hiro...
I hope its nothing too nasty, Hiro is just one of those happy go lucky characters, he doesn't deserve anything bad happening to him!
(Though i suppose not in Kensei's opinion)

And now im beginning to wonder whether Mohinder will be the one to kill Noah?

 

[Lohnt]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Hiro doesn't deserve anything bad to happen to him??? WHAT? How will he turn into a badass Future trunks samurai then?

Listen, in my opinion, the whole IDEA of Hiro, (this innocent character that is just a goofy nerd) going back to the past and screwing everything up is gold. He is the perfect character to create an evil, 1000 years in the making, precisely because he is so innocent.
An evil character would know better than to mess with the past, it is exactly the good character who has never been hurt and does not know how to hurt others that ends up F$#$ing up and ACTUALLY hurting them, thus reaping consequences.

If you've never messed up, you don't know how to be careful, Hiro just messed up. He should live with his consequences, which in this case = getting his ass kicked by the company, and turning into a long haired time traveling samurai of DBZ proportion, the real Hiro we met in episode 4

 

[DemonDays]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

uumm well ok. if you say so.

 

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

lol...

the "future" Hiro with long hair only exists when Sylar kills Ando. Ando represents Hiro's innocence, though to each his own.