TV THE HEROES THREAD: [SPOILERS]

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I hate stalker boy. So much that I'm not ever going to bother memorizing his name, he will infinitely be knwn to me as stalker boy. If I ever feel like giving him a different name I might refer to him as BadNathanClone. But damn, I know he's needed for the story but stalkers just piss me off.

Other then that I agree with Kadodo that this was a better chapter then the last. Lots of suprises. Though way too many "clones" for my tastes. Clones is what I'm refering to for characters that have the excat same ability as another character.

Which brings me too the killers, my prediction is that the killer is a Peter clone. Only because he is demonstrating so many of the abilities we've already seen.

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Ok, I liked episode 2, lizard way better than the first episode.

Now, it was cool to see the haitian again since I myself is haitian. I really thought he was out of the story but it is good to see him coming back. Now, Suresh went to the Haitian to try to cure him. It was just great that the Haitian played him and erased his memories. However, what surprised me was that the Haitian was still working with Mr.Bennet.

I really want to know why Peter lost his memory and I'm pretty sure that he didn't meet with the Haitian. How come he lost his memories? Also, the guy offered him to give his memories back if he were to actually help him commit a crime. I think that the guy is lying, there is no information about Peter in that box.
However, I do have a feeling that this group of eight that killed Hiro's father is the cause of Peter's current situation. Did you guys realize he had a necklace with the exact same sign from the photos?

Like Manu mentioned, I'm not really feeling the stalker boy (forgot his name too). How come he was so suspicious of Claire since her first day? Something is fishy about him and I think when I find out I won't be surprised.

Throughout the episode, I was wondering why they called it "Lizards", but I was glad they named it like that because how in the hell did Claire REGROW HER TOE NAIL!!! I knew her skin could regenerate but her a whole toenail? She's invincible, even if you cut her arm or legs they will regrow. I'm loving her more and more.

Hiro Nakamura, since last week I said he was going to be the real Takezo Kensei. He stole the armor and saved the princess by stopping time. I thought the British guy was just a drunk but how in the hell did he not die at the end from these arrows? His skin regenerated. Do you guys think that Claire might be a descendent of that British Guy?

 

[sahugani]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

i really enjoyed the episode

one of the best things to me was the return of the Hatian, who i really got attached to for some reason i can't fully comprehend. if you also read the comic on the site today, you'll notice that in his story, there is another less than obvious reappearance of the helix symbol. the symbol has come to represent different thingsin different cultures and now we finally see its relevance to the Hatian.

As for Peter, there is definately some wierd coincidences. i think the guy threatening Ricky is part of Kaito's original team, but will be one of the ones this killer will come after. since Kaito is dead and Angela Patrelli isn't likely to crack (due to both fear and stubbornness), it will be through this guy that we learn the past of the group. As for the box, i think that it and Peter's appearance in the crate were orchistrated by this guy. Ricky actually knows very little and was given instructions on what to do with Peter. He may have gotten a threat like Kaito and Angela, so when he finds the potentially most powerful person on Earth sitting in his lap, he sees a bodyguard. He is manipulating things to bring Peter into his debt so that he can ask for protection in return.

my biggest thought though lies in Hiro's quest with Kensei. in the legend, there is a dragon that helped strengthen Kensei. Since i doubt the series would include a real dragon, i think Hiro fills that role and through dramatic storytelling when the story is written into legend, Hiro is interpretted as the dragon. Hiro is falling in love with the swordsmith's daughter, which fits with the dragon wanting Kensei's love. Since all Hiro's actions in helping Kensei are being kept covert, there is no basis for the storytellers to suspect Kensei was trained by a human. with Kensei's healing ability, it is easy to see how regrowing his own heart after offering it to the dragon could be viewed by the people as a dragon's magic

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I'm glad somebody else is happy the haitian is back. I just want to know what Mr. Bennett will use him for. About Ricky using Pete, I think Sahugani is right but if Ricky betrays Peter, Peter will kill him. So there better be something interesting in that box.
@Sahugani: Do you think that Claire is a descendant Takezo Kensei?

 

[sahugani]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

regarding Claire and Kensei, i actually don't think so. recall that Claire is the daughter of a flying man and a pyrokinetic and Micah is the son of a phaser and a superstrong split-personality. the types of abilities are clearly not dependant on the person's parentage. If Kensei's identical ability to Claire had to be explained by decendance, then the same would apply to West, which means that not only would Nathan have needed to have yet another illegitamate child, but that child happens to be the same age as Claire and they happen to go to the same school by random chance.

i think that the appearance of identical abilities might be related to genes in a different way. i'll think on this and get back to you

and kadodo, i meant that the mob boss threatening Ricky is using Peter. Ricky is just a pawn that i actually see Peter protecting in the future

 

[weixiaobao]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

kadodo- as for the descendant theory... i think Kensei related to the Petrelli, and I am not surprised if West turn out to be the son of Nathan.... speaking of which at the end of the second episode if Claire look up on the sky (Mr. Muggles did) she would have seen West flying..

Sahugani- in genetic some traits skipped generations... so maybe those powers may stay in the family but may just skipped some generation until they appeared again.

*Silly me i thought Peter was Slythar at the end of the 1st episode..... *

I am beggining to think Suresh is also special (the living cure man)... and yeah my first thought when he was in Haiti.. wait kadodo from there...

One thing i don't really like is that they some how managed to slip Mendez's painting in all of these... if those are really have already drawn.. then Linderman could see the future off all of his once companion and took actions, especially since Mrs. Petrelli is his partner in crime... *and what is Mrs. Petrelli's power?*

Interesting episode, i going to read this week graphic novel now.. discuss later...

*is Peter in Italy??*

 

[sahugani]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

i realize that traits may skip generations, but usually that is the case of one gene being dominant over another, so both Claire's parents would need to be carrying a gene for spontaneous regeneration that is recessive to both of their own abilities. that would mean that the system for these abilities' genetic makeup would be based on some being dominant over others, which i doubtin this series for a number of reasons

i find it much more likely that what is passed down is a genaric gene for ability users that rather than initiate the abilities itself, unlocks a section of previously unused genetic code that in turn initiates the abilities.

and peter is in Ireland

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

wei- I don't think West is related to Nathan, he should not be because in the preview of future episodes I saw West kissing Clair. That would mean that Claire was kissing her brother? I don't think that should happen.

sahugani- Well, I am still confused of how Kensei regrew his skin. I guess we'll find out sooner or later but I'm sure he's the ancestors of one of the Heroes.

 

[Regente]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Does Petrelli have a son in every state? What a promiscuous person.

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Does Petrelli have a son in every state? What a promiscuous person.

well, we're still not sure if West is related to Nathan Petrelli but it might be because their genes developed the same way or something, but we'll find out sooner or later, we just need to be patient.

 

[Regente]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I was just joking, Kadodo. I don't believe he is Petrelli's son.

Anyway, nice start of season, at least better than 2/3 of the entire first season.

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

There's one question that's been bothering me since the start of the season
How did Nathan survive?
I thought he was supposed to be dead after that huge blast...
And also, after seeing the last episode, I'm almost completely sure that Hiro is the real Kensei, not some outsider from britan

 

[manu]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Well either Nathan ran into a healer, (Linderman maybe?) or Peter ran into a healer and healed Nate, or Nathan let go of his brother when he got too hot (which would make sense, right?)

Its definately a mystery anyways.

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

I guess, but how would peter run into a healer?
He lost his memory remember?
Although I'm not too sure whether or not someone erased his memory, or if he lost it because of the explosion...It would make more sense that someone erased it, because how else would he end up in ireland?

 

[Regente]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

What I found weird was that scene where Nathan sees a transfigured version of himself in the mirror. Perhapas he actually ended up like that, but someone/something has healed him (couldn't be Linderman because he was already dead).

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Yeah, but who?
I have a feeling that Angela Petrelli and Hiro's dad have something to do with peter's memory being erased, and with Nathan being healed.

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

There's one question that's been bothering me since the start of the season
How did Nathan survive?
I thought he was supposed to be dead after that huge blast...

Well, I have 2 theories of how Nathan survived.

1) I think Peter ran into that group of nine that killed Hiro's father. Remember in the last episode, Peter had the necklace in around his neck? Maybe it's a sign that they put him in the group without his knowledge. The group probably decided to save Nathan for a reason, and they erased Nathan's memory during the explosion but they indeed erased all of Peter's memory.

2)Remember last season, Nathan's mom really wanted him to survive. She told him to let the explosion happen and he will be able to become a good president during that crisis. This alone shows you that Angela Petrelli wanted her son alive. So I think Slippers is right, angela Petrelli and Hiro's dad might have to do with the current situations of the brothers.

 

[Slippers]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Just watched the new eppy
Peter is so hawt when he doesn't have his memory <3

 

[kadodo]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

Just watched the new eppy
Peter is so hawt when he doesn't have his memory <3

I'm telling you guys right now, this sure is a big twist, I never thoughtthat Peter would decide to not look at the box. However, I'm positive now that there is something fishy about that girl he was kissing. Did you guys see how the tattoo transformed into the "Godsend symbol?" How did the girl end up doing that, does she has powers as well?

 

[ChuckinUpDueces]

Re: THE HEROES THREAD: SEASON 2 STARTS 09/24/07 : Beware of SPOILERS!!!

this show is awesome. I'm a little too dedicated to it though, I really could have better spent my time. either way, I'm really excited for the new season. I bought the first season the day it came out, I was so pumped I downed it all in one week. There is so much to this!!!!

I don't want to get into speculation since spoilers aren't cool for anyone, but I would like to discuss Takezo Kensei. I wasn't sure how all this would pan out after the end of season 1, but so far it's my favorite part of the show. The only gyp was not seeing him beat up on those 99 Angry swordsmen. It reminded me of Sasuke and Suigetsu's fight on their way to free Juugo. Great lead up and no finish. I was not impressed.

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I'm telling you guys right now, this sure is a big twist, I never thoughtthat Peter would decide to not look at the box. However, I'm positive now that there is something fishy about that girl he was kissing. Did you guys see how the tattoo transformed into the "Godsend symbol?" How did the girl end up doing that, does she has powers as well?

I just recently got a tattoo, and how it works is that it damages your skin. Henceforth, I assumed that his healing ability kicked in, disregarded the damage, and healed in a way that the crest turned into the godsend symbol before disappearing completely