Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[M3J]

Natsu and Lisanna did have feelings for each other and cared about each other deeply. For some reason though, Lisanna's return screwed that over in the buttocks. It's just as easily possible to make them into a pairing as it is to make Natsu and Lucy a pairing. But then again, fans love pretending Lucy not getting mad at Natsu for grabbing her boobs is development.

Out of all the main canon pairings, Natsu-Lucy is arguably the worst.

 

[BrandyThema]

Natsu and Lisanna did have feelings for each other and cared about each other deeply. For some reason though, Lisanna's return screwed that over in the buttocks. It's just as easily possible to make them into a pairing as it is to make Natsu and Lucy a pairing. But then again, fans love pretending Lucy not getting mad at Natsu for grabbing her boobs is development.

Out of all the main canon pairings, Natsu-Lucy is arguably the worst.

I think that's more anime than manga, because as someone who hasn't watched a single episode since I started reading FT, I've never once seen Lisanna as someone more than a friend to Natsu. The only time we get to know about Lisanna before Edolas was in Mira's fight with Freed and Happy's egg, that's literally it. The anime put in so much flashback between them, I got so surprised that so many people ship Nali because there's nothing in the manga

I guess I'm the only generic FT fan who loves Nalu, huh? Well, I figured, I mean I could write a 10-page essay about how their relationship has beautifully developed and heading closer to that of a couple but then again this story ain't about ships that's why I left Tumblr in the first place

 

[M3J]

I don't watch anime, this is all based on manga. There was some sort of romance or feelings implied between the two, if not shown outright.

No, majority of people love Natsu-Lucy, especially to the point of making up delusions like development or superiority to other ships or whatever other ridiculousness. Doesn't seem like they're really heading that much loser to being a couple, even. but at least it wouldn't be ridiculous, like Naru-Hina or Sasu-Saku. <_<

 

[Raven]

I think that's more anime than manga, because as someone who hasn't watched a single episode since I started reading FT, I've never once seen Lisanna as someone more than a friend to Natsu. The only time we get to know about Lisanna before Edolas was in Mira's fight with Freed and Happy's egg, that's literally it. The anime put in so much flashback between them, I got so surprised that so many people ship Nali because there's nothing in the manga

I guess I'm the only generic FT fan who loves Nalu, huh? Well, I figured, I mean I could write a 10-page essay about how their relationship has beautifully developed and heading closer to that of a couple but then again this story ain't about ships that's why I left Tumblr in the first place

Ikr, They are using Lissana to justify their complaining and hating over NaLu ship i suggest you never quote them but in offensive stance that's how they show their true colors.

Anyways I like Lisanna and lot but I dislike her and Natsu together. I feel like Natsu isn't himself when they are together it seems to so out of character where as others think it makes Natsu seem better I feel like it demotes Natsu horribly.
The thing I hate about it is it's nearly non existent in the manga. It only flourished somewhat in the anime. Half the scenes between Natsu and Lisanna aren't even in real they are fillers and it frustrates me so badly that people claim they were ever a real couple. It was only this way because the anime team decided Natsu should have a relationship with her.


Actually NaLu fans are 70~80% of the whole fandom. You're not the only one.

 

[GamerSkull]

The problem with NaLi, at least to me and including the stuff the anime has included, is that it very much feels like a childhood romance that both have grown out of at this point and that's that. I don't think either of them actually feel anything for each other than platonic at this point.

And the whole Lisanna and the dragon egg thing was an omake in the manga while the anime included it in the episode count right before the Phantom Lord arc.

I started reading the manga right after the Tartaros arc though and everything up until then I watched through the anime. I have no idea what other differences there are.

 

[BrandyThema]

Ikr, They are using Lissana to justify their complaining and hating over NaLu ship i suggest you never quote them but in offensive stance that's how they show their true colors.

Anyways I like Lisanna and lot but I dislike her and Natsu together. I feel like Natsu isn't himself when they are together it seems to so out of character where as others think it makes Natsu seem better I feel like it demotes Natsu horribly.
The thing I hate about it is it's nearly non existent in the manga. It only flourished somewhat in the anime. Half the scenes between Natsu and Lisanna aren't even in real they are fillers and it frustrates me so badly that people claim they were ever a real couple. It was only this way because the anime team decided Natsu should have a relationship with her.


Actually NaLu fans are 70~80% of the whole fandom. You're not the only one.

I know this fandom has a lot of Nalu shippers, I mean in this thread Nalu shippers are minorities
I actually like Lisanna when she was "dead" more at least she played a part somewhere

 

[GamerSkull]

I know this fandom has a lot of Nalu shippers, I mean in this thread Nalu shippers are minorities
I actually like Lisanna when she was "dead" more at least she played a part somewhere

Aww don't be like that, people all have their own preference and points of view that's why crack ships exist
just don't be a butt and force your opinion down people's throats though, otherwise you're gonna be like Gruvia

LMAO nice bait

Lisanna has become of the same tier as Jet, Droy, Warren, and Max at this point. I do like her new timeskip design though...

 

[Raven]

I know this fandom has a lot of Nalu shippers, I mean in this thread Nalu shippers are minorities
I actually like Lisanna when she was "dead" more at least she played a part somewhere

Aww don't be like that, people all have their own preference and points of view that's why crack ships exist
just don't be a butt and force your opinion down people's throats though, otherwise you're gonna be like Gruvia

Because they don't need to argue over something very obvious that is given to the masses? or Maybe the recent amount of hate in General to fairytail manga? you will never know xD
I don't care about any ship in the manga but NaLu tho i can tell you Gruvia isn't forced, You're right i don't have to force my opinion but i wasn't forcing anything i was just stating a pure fact.

 

[BrandyThema]

Lisanna has become of the same tier as Jet, Droy, Warren, and Max at this point. I do like her new timeskip design though...

Whoa whoa hold up hold up fam...
You're telling me, that Lisanna is the same tier as Warren and Max?
Jet and Droy I can understand, but these two?
Um, I'm sorry but has Lisanna pulled off something nearly as neat as this?

Spoiler: Warren and Max

Max's broom and Warren's Iphone are so disappointed in you right now fam \
no but seriously, has she? I don't think she has

 

[GamerSkull]

Whoa whoa hold up hold up fam...
You're telling me, that Lisanna is the same tier as Warren and Max?
Jet and Droy I can understand, but these two?
Um, I'm sorry but has Lisanna pulled off something nearly as neat as this?

Spoiler: Warren and Max

Max's broom and Warren's Iphone are so disappointed in you right now fam \
no but seriously, has she? I don't think she has

Ah, well. I kind of just lump her in with the secondary characters that really don't contribute to the fights much. But she's definitely in in the same tier as Jet and Droy... and Macao and that smoke guy whose name I can never remember.

 

[AlphaIkaros]

I don't know there's a clash between NaLi and NaLu... XD

For me, my best, and maybe the most obvious, ships that make me feel so giggly are:
Gajeel x Levi
Sting x Yukino

 

[M3J]

The problem with NaLi, at least to me and including the stuff the anime has included, is that it very much feels like a childhood romance that both have grown out of at this point and that's that. I don't think either of them actually feel anything for each other than platonic at this point.

And the whole Lisanna and the dragon egg thing was an omake in the manga while the anime included it in the episode count right before the Phantom Lord arc.

I started reading the manga right after the Tartaros arc though and everything up until then I watched through the anime. I have no idea what other differences there are.

Exactly it, childhood romance that doesn't seem likely to blossom again! There was something between the two even in the manga, as far as I recall, the only argument anyone can make is that there seems to be nothing now.

I remember the flashbacks between the two implying romance; back then Natsu-Lisanna was an actual possibility, more than Natsu-Lucy.

 

[Gabo]

Um, where is the NaLi Involvement based on a Youth Friendship? I mean, if we were for that, I think many of the Cast girls would have more development than Lissana XD

I think that to talk about development of couples it would be better to see how these have interacted with each other, and not something of a childhood friendship, because when applied that is when there is a greater participation of the girl or boy in question, and Here Lissana is the least interaction has had ... until Cana has more interaction with Natsu than Lissana ... if we get heavy, until Porlyuska has more interaction with Natsu XD

The same is a matter of preferences of each.

 

[GamerSkull]

Um, where is the NaLi Involvement based on a Youth Friendship? I mean, if we were for that, I think many of the Cast girls would have more development than Lissana XD

I think that to talk about development of couples it would be better to see how these have interacted with each other, and not something of a childhood friendship, because when applied that is when there is a greater participation of the girl or boy in question, and Here Lissana is the least interaction has had ... until Cana has more interaction with Natsu than Lissana ... if we get heavy, until Porlyuska has more interaction with Natsu XD

The same is a matter of preferences of each.

Agreed. At the end of the day, it just depends on preferences. Some people will like one ship and dislike another. It's natural.

 

[Nemispelled]

That's it, I can no longer take you seriously. It's a hopeless cause... Everything I've written has flown over your head as you let your bias blind your view of the canon that's present in the manga. Like thatsvicchan said, Juvia and nakama can't be even be used in a sentence together when it comes to Gray, yet you continue to downplay many of Gray's romantic actions towards her because you just don't like it. I'm just laughing at this point, so here, enjoy the latest official twitter art from Hiro:

The only girl that he has romantic development with that's been evolving over time and the girl that he has the strongest bond with. <3

I never said that Gray and Juvia are nakamas, because clearly, at this point in the series, they're not.

Mashima has every intention to make them a pairing after Tartaros. Especially after he miraculously revived Juvia from the dead even though she already transfused all of her blood to Gray...

But I'm simply pointing out that the "incidents you mentioned" are examples of Nakama/Friendship actions by Gray.

Several things that Gray has done in the past to Juvia are things he would do with any female, so they aren't exclusively to Juvia.


The only significant things that Gray has done to Juvia that he hasn't done to any other girl was cry in her boobs at the end of Tartaros Arc.

But by then, Mashima has already decided the fate of that ship, which I fully expected and acknowledged.

I still think the ship was forced, considering it was a one-sided obsession for around 400+ chapters.

 

[M3J]

Can't imagine the ship being forced; it's not like Gray went from hating/disliking Juvia to liking her/falling in love with her overnight. He spent time with her and got to know her, and they fought lots of battles together. If nothing else, comradeship would have been forged one way or another. Relationships like Juvia and Gray and Natsu and Lucy are bound to happen with the amount of time they spend with each other.

Also, I'm still mindfucked that Mira is just a year older than Gray. Thought she was several years older, which would have made the pairing even more odd.

 

[darkenedreality]

Can't imagine the ship being forced; it's not like Gray went from hating/disliking Juvia to liking her/falling in love with her overnight. He spent time with her and got to know her, and they fought lots of battles together. If nothing else, comradeship would have been forged one way or another. Relationships like Juvia and Gray and Natsu and Lucy are bound to happen with the amount of time they spend with each other.

Also, I'm still mindfucked that Mira is just a year older than Gray. Thought she was several years older, which would have made the pairing even more odd.

Thank you. You cannot call a ship that spent practically the entire series developing, "forced". As I said, romance has to start from somewhere so of course Gray and Juvia would be friends first.

 

[joodaa]

But then again, fans love pretending Lucy not getting mad at Natsu for grabbing her boobs is development.

Out of all the main canon pairings, Natsu-Lucy is arguably the worst.

I see you say these things a lot on this thread. The problem with Nalu is that they have the most screen time, so if Mashima wants to make them cannon at the end of the series and not before, he can't afford to give them these massive shipping moments he does the other pairings. So what does he do? He uses the stereotypical shounen ecchi moments to give us an indicator of what he's planning, without haveing to show all his cards or make you wonder where the pairing came from when it happens. It's only now in one of the last arcs that we actually get to know what they're thinking, as shown with Lucy defending Natsu to DiMaria. After Irene showed up, it would have been a lot easier for Lucy who's also tired from fighting to carry Juvia, but she wanted to carry Natsu. Gray, Juvia and Natsu are all unconscious, but it's Natsu she's right beside. It's that very slow shift from neutral to positive that Nalu is, Mashima's laid the foundation, now he's building a house.

 

[Hermit]

 

[Brandish μ]

Would have been so legit if Zeref used an emoji with tears in it

I'm not a big fan of Zervis, but they are canon. And Hiro seems to draw them quite well imo.