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Could you imagine if NaLi happened? The fandom would lose their shit.
I wouldn't mind NaLi happening tbh. Lisanna did always have a thing for Natsu so give them a bit more interaction that doesn't feel forced and you might be able to start getting towards it. I always did like NaLi more than NaLu tbh, then again, I like a fair few ships more than NaLu aha.
 

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I wouldn't mind NaLi happening tbh. Lisanna did always have a thing for Natsu so give them a bit more interaction that doesn't feel forced and you might be able to start getting towards it. I always did like NaLi more than NaLu tbh, then again, I like a fair few ships more than NaLu aha.
But being honest here, if that ship turned out canon it would have next to no actual build up. Imo it would feel artifical and unsatisfying.
 

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Could you imagine if NaLi happened? The fandom would lose their shit.
I'm not against NaLi, I just don't see much going for it at this point. The majority of shippable moments between the two were from the anime fillers. If you're following along the manga, you'll only understand Lisanna's history as Mirajane and Elfman's sister.

In order for me to support NaLi, 2 things need to happen. Lisanna needs to be integral to the story in terms of plot significance. Natsu is the main character, and I need to see Lisanna as an important character to seriously pair him off with the male lead. Her relationship with Natsu needs to be more intimate than Lucy's.
 

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But being honest here, if that ship turned out canon it would have next to no actual build up. Imo it would feel artifical and unsatisfying.
Eh, I think if Mashima actually went in the direction of NaLi then he could do something, start getting things rekindled there and have Lisanna maybe start gunning for him again. He can do pairing stuff right, so he'd have to do it right so it didn't feel that way. I think for me it might feel better than NaLu though because I feel like anything NaLu is always just rammed down our throats a bit. I prefer them (Natsu and Lucy) as friends tbh.
 

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I prefer them (Natsu and Lucy) as friends tbh.
Their endgame will be together, something I want like most people, but if this happens I don't think it would be a death blow compared to them being paired with someone else. I mean they're already like friends w/ benefits so even if they became canon nothing in the dynamic of their relationship would change. It will be outrage and burning in the fandom if they're the only pairing in the big4 not to be canon but hey, could be worse.
 

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Their endgame will be together, something I want like most people, but if this happens I don't think it would be a death blow compared to them being paired with someone else. I mean they're already like friends w/ benefits so even if they became canon nothing in the dynamic of their relationship would change. It will be outrage and burning in the fandom if they're the only pairing in the big4 not to be canon but hey, could be worse.
Perhaps Hiro will do a similar thing to Kubo in that after the endgame we get a timeskip to when all the canon ships are revealed :wooo
 

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Perhaps Hiro will do a similar thing to Kubo in that after the endgame we get a timeskip to when all the canon ships are revealed :wooo
I hope he'll actually show at least somewhat of a final development before the timeskip as opposed to:

The ships don't interact much for the finale but the timeskip occurs and they're together.
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I would prefer the actual development to finish prior to the timeskip and the reveal afterwards to just be post-marriage or children. Kubo kind of just didn't show anything and then the timeskip happened and everyone was married and the story behind that was apparently saved for the upcoming novels.

Am I making any sense? I'm not sure if I worded that well.
 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, please, I think some are overly influenced by the late Jump Maangas.

Guys, remember Mashima is not Kubo or Kishimoto, who clearly have said they do not know how to make romance, while Mashima already has a lot of experience with romantic Mangaas, he is not to alter their partners or create couples from nowhere, couples of their stories Tend to have a background, often start as friends and then become a partner, if we see well in the works of Mashima rarely put the friend of childhood or a character of little participation, and commonly the couple protagonica tends to be Those at the beginning, and fine guys ...

Do I have to remember that in the cases of Naruto and Bleach the endings had already been literally announced by far? Kubo with the Bleach Pilot had shown us how much Orihime liked her as Ichigo's wife, and Kishimoto when they showed the original sketches of Hinata and the background that he wanted and had shouted all over the face that she would be the wife of the Protagonist. The Ship War that existed was more the fault of the Televisions that exaltaron much the possibility of the other couples, and for that reason many left with the feint that the other pair had possibilities.

Stop trying to measure Mashima based on two authors who are different and handle it as they are ls stories of him.

Remember how you have handled the leading couples like Haru and Elie, couples of Friends of Children like Julia and Let, couples of former rivals like Musica and Reyna ... and all his other works and see which have more possibilities Of giving yourself instead of eating your head with half-absurd theories that you will copy something that is not at all with the style he manages.

I think we should stop smoking so much Marihuana guys, that after all, we are all a romantic without remedy and we can not deny that we all love to create couples, whether they are canon, almost canon or totally crack, and I think those who are more Complain are those who love romance and be able to get involved with it. XD
 

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Sadness. Nobody ever mentions my first couple I liked. It was an early pairing too.


But then realized it wouldn't happen so....

Can't help but love it tho.

Especially when everyone in the fandom only cares about Natsu ships like there's nobody else in the story and then complain when he gets panel time.

And Gray is a more sexualized male than Natsu thus he should be shipped more. And typically doesn't go around wanting to fight the females or is being a perve toward them. This Gray should have it pretty well with ladies.

I get people like the big 4 and they like smaller pairings like Graylu, Nali, Naza.

But this pairing gets a moments every 20-40 chapters. Yet. No love by fandom.

Why is this pairing hated?
Not that I'm against this pairing, but at least two "proofs" don't belong in your spoiler as either Erza is telling Gray to have faith in someone or telling Gray about Juvia's feelings.

I'm sure FT fans care about other relationships as well though, if this forum is any indication. But you can't blame them as Natsu and Lucy are the primary main characters, while Erza and Gray are secondary.

I'm not against NaLi, I just don't see much going for it at this point. The majority of shippable moments between the two were from the anime fillers. If you're following along the manga, you'll only understand Lisanna's history as Mirajane and Elfman's sister.

In order for me to support NaLi, 2 things need to happen. Lisanna needs to be integral to the story in terms of plot significance. Natsu is the main character, and I need to see Lisanna as an important character to seriously pair him off with the male lead. Her relationship with Natsu needs to be more intimate than Lucy's.
I haven't watched the anime fillers at all, but I remember there being quite a few moments between Lisanna and Natsu, at least in the flashback. Plus, there was that scene where both were naked in a cell, and despite Natsu sexually harassing Lucy multiple times, he respected Lisanna enough not to look at her (or look at her multiple times anyway). I think there is potential for both, without Lisanna needing to be integral to the story or as important as you want her to be. We just have to see her and Natsu interact more often, otherwise it'd look weird and out of the blue, like Naruto and Hinata did when Naruto basically forgot her confession.

What kind of intimate? Because I don't see any love intimacy between the two, just friendship and super deep trust.
Eh, I think if Mashima actually went in the direction of NaLi then he could do something, start getting things rekindled there and have Lisanna maybe start gunning for him again. He can do pairing stuff right, so he'd have to do it right so it didn't feel that way. I think for me it might feel better than NaLu though because I feel like anything NaLu is always just rammed down our throats a bit. I prefer them (Natsu and Lucy) as friends tbh.
It's usually the fans that shove Natsu-Lucy down our throats, otherwise I haven't really seen that in the manga much. Well, before this arc anyway. Lucy hanging out with Natsu makes a lot of sense because he's the light and beacon of hope in a lot of his guild members' lives, and he's the one who brought Lucy into FT. They trust each other immensely, but it's kinda odd that Natsu is with Lucy constantly when he has other guild members he's grown up with.

But anyway, I think any interaction between Lisanna and Natsu would have to start soon. Feels like they need to do a lot in order to become a legitimate potential pairing, especially after Lisanna passed the torch to Lucy.
 

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I haven't watched the anime fillers at all, but I remember there being quite a few moments between Lisanna and Natsu, at least in the flashback. Plus, there was that scene where both were naked in a cell, and despite Natsu sexually harassing Lucy multiple times, he respected Lisanna enough not to look at her (or look at her multiple times anyway). I think there is potential for both, without Lisanna needing to be integral to the story or as important as you want her to be. We just have to see her and Natsu interact more often, otherwise it'd look weird and out of the blue, like Naruto and Hinata did when Naruto basically forgot her confession

What kind of intimate? Because I don't see any love intimacy between the two, just friendship and super deep trust.
There is only 1 flashback with Lisanna in the manga. That was in the Happy's egg omake. Well, Mirajane also had a flashback but Natsu wasn't in it (it was just a scene of Lisanna "dying"). I'm not sure how the prison scene furthers Natsu and Lisanna's relationship, but I suppose that counts as an interaction.

Well, I meant moments like this where Lucy would be affectionate towards Natsu. You might only see it as friendship and super deep trust, but super deep trust is not a bad start.
 

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There is only 1 flashback with Lisanna in the manga. That was in the Happy's egg omake. Well, Mirajane also had a flashback but Natsu wasn't in it (it was just a scene of Lisanna "dying"). I'm not sure how the prison scene furthers Natsu and Lisanna's relationship, but I suppose that counts as an interaction.

Well, I meant moments like this where Lucy would be affectionate towards Natsu. You might only see it as friendship and super deep trust, but super deep trust is not a bad start.
Odd, as I seem to remember more interactions between Lisanna and Natsu when they were kids. At least, some things that suggested or said childhood romance anyway. Barely remember the omake as well, but I think we saw the flashback between Lisanna and/or Natsu around when the other dimension was revealed? Could have been before the arc as well.

Didn't say it did, but it does show Natsu respecting Lisanna enough to give her privacy or not look at her the way he would at Lucy, or try to sexually assault her. It's pretty creepy when you think about it, actually.

Yeah, but it hasn't really advanced to anything past friendship and deep trust, until maybe this arc. Also, is that picture from Lucy not beng Lucy? Or was she completely herself when she purred and jumped on Natsu like that? That'd be out of character for her. :x But bold Lucy is just what we need to advance the pairing if it's to have a chance.
 

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No, Lisanna pushed Natsu back when they were in the cell. Natsu didn't respect her like you said. And the word "Respect" is wrong here, He respects everyone but he is dump so he acts with stupidity.

There is only 1 flashback with Lisanna in the manga. That was in the Happy's egg omake. Well, Mirajane also had a flashback but Natsu wasn't in it (it was just a scene of Lisanna "dying"). I'm not sure how the prison scene furthers Natsu and Lisanna's relationship, but I suppose that counts as an interaction.

Well, I meant moments like this where Lucy would be affectionate towards Natsu. You might only see it as friendship and super deep trust, but super deep trust is not a bad start.
Nali never existed to start with, Anime team added more between them.
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Look at the difference between Lucy and Lissana.

- Natsu always break into Lucy's house not Lissana's.
- Natsu left and wrote a letter for Lucy not for Lissana.
- Lucy cried when Natsu left her, Lissana didn't give a fuck.
- Lucy keep worrying about Natsu while Lissana don't even bother thinking about Natsu.

Lissana's role is now limited to Mira-jan and Elfman and nothing will change, Nali is a crack ship and it's fans forcing it and invent things just like Gaylu, Grayza and Natza.
 
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Odd, as I seem to remember more interactions between Lisanna and Natsu when they were kids. At least, some things that suggested or said childhood romance anyway. Barely remember the omake as well, but I think we saw the flashback between Lisanna and/or Natsu around when the other dimension was revealed? Could have been before the arc as well.

Didn't say it did, but it does show Natsu respecting Lisanna enough to give her privacy or not look at her the way he would at Lucy, or try to sexually assault her. It's pretty creepy when you think about it, actually.

Yeah, but it hasn't really advanced to anything past friendship and deep trust, until maybe this arc. Also, is that picture from Lucy not beng Lucy? Or was she completely herself when she purred and jumped on Natsu like that? That'd be out of character for her. :x But bold Lucy is just what we need to advance the pairing if it's to have a chance.
Well unless I missed something, there's only the Happy's egg omake if we're talking about when Natsu and Lisanna were kids. There was a sort-of flashback during the Edolas arc, but it wasn't of when they were kids. It was of Lisanna finding out that everyone was from earthland. I think Mirajane and Elfman from Edolas told her it was okay to leave afterwards. It's probably around chapter 199-201.

Well Lucy was drunk at that time. Still, there's other times where Lucy is affectionate towards Natsu like after the his fight with Gray. It might not be a declaration of love, but it is intimate - which like I said, is not a bad place to start building a relationship. And if we want a bold Lucy, the 514 spoilers have Lucy being quite bold. :P
 

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Sadness. Nobody ever mentions my first couple I liked. It was an early pairing too.


You have to work hard

To be this cute

This much fun

And this sexy

He was so happy to beat her




And he left Juvia for her


He works with her

But stands up to her



Protecting her from herself as when she wanted her arm cut off

Trusting each other

Sleeping together

Staying with each other through others driving them crazy

Otp material

aethestically pleasing

Not actually crack because they have canonly romantic moments

Even had published fan art by the manga

"And Gray said he would turn into a demon to beat Erza.
"
Thus I believe his trump card will be used on Irene.

But then realized it wouldn't happen so....

Can't help but love it tho.

Especially when everyone in the fandom only cares about Natsu ships like there's nobody else in the story and then complain when he gets panel time.

And Gray is a more sexualized male than Natsu thus he should be shipped more. And typically doesn't go around wanting to fight the females or is being a perve toward them. This Gray should have it pretty well with ladies.

I get people like the big 4 and they like smaller pairings like Graylu, Nali, Naza.

But this pairing gets a moments every 20-40 chapters. Yet. No love by fandom.

Why is this pairing hated?
Well you should go to Tumblr. Grayza fans are louder than the other Gray minor ships mostly because they always throw hate at Juvia and Jellal in their analysis, so ship wars happen lol. Overall many people still like it so don't worry!

Grayza is canonically a brotp like Natza. Both Gray and Natsu see Erza as a big sister. We got tons of confirmation but if you still see a romantic bond it's okay... everyone can ship whatever they want xD the most important thing is not to twist manga facts to prove your ship and tbh my problem with Grayza (fans) is exactly this.

But anyway... I would never like Team Natsu turning into a double marriage group when its task should be showing their strong bonds as FRIENDS.
Lucy and Natsu are the leading characters so canon is obvious, but if Mashima had Erza and Gray becoming a couple... lol poor third weel Wendy. What I am saying is that I like Team Natsu as a group of friends, not lovers, so I am glad Mashima kept this.

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Oh, talking about brotps which could work as a pairing... Gajeel x Juvia comes to my mind. I like them as friends (the Phantom Duo *w*) but if they had had to become a couple... I wouldn't have been surprised. They come from the same guild after all and Juvia definitely cared only about him instead of her team (the other three Element 4)
 
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Not that I'm against this pairing, but at least two "proofs" don't belong in your spoiler as either Erza is telling Gray to have faith in someone or telling Gray about Juvia's feelings.
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I totally get what your saying now. When I added that panel I was intending to show how open they were around each other as oppose which is hallmark of really close friends and I tend to ship close friends (my favorite pairings are always friends before romantic) so it made sense to me. Thanks. Not sure if I should edit that now.

And the mini rant wasn't so much complaining about Natsu ships as much as Natsu is less sexualized toward women in general being more dense and wanting to fight. Yet as main he gets the most debate over his ships. While Gray is more of a lover and he does have his girl Juvia but has had good interactions with many females Mira, Lucy, Ultear, Erza. Think he had a chapter cover with Mira making him breakfast. Even his filler fight with Sorano was sexy. That's all I intended.

Well you should go to Tumblr. Grayza fans are louder than the other Gray minor ships mostly because they always throw hate at Juvia and Jellal in their analysis, so ship wars happen lol. Overall many people still like it so don't worry!

Grayza is canonically a brotp like Natza. Both Gray and Natsu see Erza as a big sister. We got tons of confirmation but if you still see a romantic bond it's okay... everyone can ship whatever they want xD the most important thing is not to twist manga facts to prove your ship and tbh my problem with Grayza (fans) is exactly this.

But anyway... I would never like Team Natsu turning into a double marriage group when its task should be showing their strong bonds as FRIENDS.
Lucy and Natsu are the leading characters so canon is obvious, but if Mashima had Erza and Gray becoming a couple... lol poor third weel Wendy. What I am saying is that I like Team Natsu as a group of friends, not lovers, so I am glad Mashima kept this.

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Oh, talking about brotps which could work as a pairing... Gajeel x Juvia comes to my mind. I like them as friends (the Phantom Duo *w*) but if they had had to become a couple... I wouldn't have been surprised. They come from the same guild after all and Juvia definitely cared only about him instead of her team (the other three Element 4)
I don't really do Tumblr much but I have friends on there who send stuff I like.

This is kinda what I meant. People throw around pairings that could have been if been developed right and everyone in fairy tail is pretty much a close friends. Therefore it would be fun to talk about potential pairings outside of the Nali,Naza,Graylu alternatives to Nalu and Graylu.

That's the only thing I have against Grayza mixed with Nalu. And really the problem I have with mixing of the Graylu/Naza pairing as well. It seems like team Natsu gets paired off perfectly For a double marriage.

It is funny you being up Juvia x Gajeel because I love their brotp friends turned romantic is my favorite tv troupe. Plus Gajeel has a thing for blue haired women (Levyi) and nicknames all the people in his harem - Shrimp, Salamander, Rain woman, Bunny girl. So it could be fun ^_^
 

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To use the scenes of the Anime does not serve much, remember that often it is the animes that create the Ship Wars when resaltr to a personage in exchange of creating "Tension" and with it to sell more.

Not to forget that at least with Lissana does not see interest of couple to Natsu she is more like the classic Brotp the faithful friend but that does not happen of there.

In that of there are many in Fairy Tail, but as I told you, we are so fanatic of the Romance that everything we want to see as romantic XD

Let's not deny it, everyone here likes romance no matter how much they deny it
 

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And the mini rant wasn't so much complaining about Natsu ships as much as Natsu is less sexualized toward women in general being more dense and wanting to fight. Yet as main he gets the most debate over his ships. While Gray is more of a lover and he does have his girl Juvia but has had good interactions with many females Mira, Lucy, Ultear, Erza. Think he had a chapter cover with Mira making him breakfast. Even his filler fight with Sorano was sexy. That's all I intended.
No not like that, Fairy tail is 70%~85% finished i believe, Males like Gray and Gajeel got their girls already in this arc and pretty much confirmed their feelings through Invel and Bloodman fights. Jellal and Erza already reached this level from ages. The chances of any of them to end up with different person is very low hence you don't see many Gray ships debates but you still observe few ppl who delude themselves.

I agree that Natsu has the most ships debate, That because the Nalu ship haters wants him to end up with any girl but Lucy that's why you see ppl claiming that Nali or Natza could have a better ground if done right but that ain't true because Nali or Natza never existed to start with.
 

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No not like that, Fairy tail is 70%~85% finished i believe, Males like Gray and Gajeel got their girls already in this arc and pretty much confirmed their feelings through Invel and Bloodman fights. Jellal and Erza already reached this level from ages. The chances of any of them to end up with different person is very low hence you don't see many Gray ships debates but you still observe few ppl who delude themselves.

I agree that Natsu has the most ships debate, That because the Nalu ship haters wants him to end up with any girl but Lucy that's why you see ppl claiming that Nali or Natza could have a better ground if done right but that ain't true because Nali or Natza never existed to start with.
Yea I agree that Jellal and Erza got their relationship early and the Gajevy and Gruvia moments make them akin to confesses couples who are together for all purposes now. I was just meaning it's fun to branch out. Same as "vs fights" that center around same characters (Laxus, Natsu, Erza). Nothing serious. Just different. Like Freed and Mirajane was a popular ship at beginning but pretty much died. Because the big 4 especially nalu vs alternate pairings just usually involve arguing around the same points that have been stated 500 times. Plus we practically get weekly moments with nalu. And it along with Zervis is the last of the big ships Mashima can tease. So that means we will get a lot more in future too.

And really feel like people don't like Lucy which is why they dislike Nalu.
 
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