Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[Axiomus]

 

[M3J]

Gotta love sexual assault /sarcasm

 

[Axiomus]

Gotta love sexual assault /sarcasm

Friendly sparring is sexual assault?

 

[Star Frost]

Friendly sparring is sexual assault?

Don’t forget, he despises Nalu.

 

[M3J]

Friendly sparring is sexual assault?

The way he's doing it, yeah.

Don’t forget, he despises Nalu.

because the ship sucks. If Mashima did it better, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

 

[Axiomus]

The way he's doing it, yeah.


because the ship sucks. If Mashima did it better, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

A body lock? It's literally one of the most common positions in grappling, like probably the 3rd most common takedown after double and single-legs.

Natsu and Lucy have obviously went through the trouble of putting on WWE-style wrestling outfits, and are putting wrestling moves on each other, so clearly they've consented to the contact that comes with grappling. Nobody ever says Lucy is sexually assaulting Natsu by putting Natsu's arms between her breasts when she's armbarring him, or when she's wrapping her legs around Natsu.

Spoiler: More of Natsu and Lucy wrestling

O, you would complain about NaLu no matter how Mashima handles it. :P

 

[M3J]

Because Lucy usually doesn't try to grope Natsu or peep at him, and even if she did, Natsu doesn't seem to mind. but yeah, I misunderstood since I'm generally used to Natsu assaulting Lucy, and it being defended or normalized. That was a badass armbar though.

Wrongu. If Mashima handled the pair better, I would be all good with it, instead of making it one-sided or friendzoned and having fans defend that as a romantic relationship. I've said this countless times.

 

[Arjuna]

Personally I feel Mashima should give NALU bit more development.


He did great job regarding GALE so he should have done the same here.


Pure Twitter arts won't make the cut ultimately.He should at least make them confess their love for each other and or marriage.



This way it will be good.

 

[Star Frost]

Wrongu. If Mashima handled the pair better, I would be all good with it, instead of making it one-sided or friendzoned and having fans defend that as a romantic relationship. I've said this countless times.

Ah but that didn’t stop you from immediately say how good of a ship him and Touka would be from just that little explanation from Touka of how how she met him (supposedly) and fell for him which could be extremely likely one-sided. Lol

 

[strikefreedom]

Anyway as it has been said no other, this spin off is done to conclude the nalu, jerza and showed gruvia.

It is hoped that he will develop them, jellal having no good reason not to be with erza, so we want this marriage or at least the ring.

And for the same nalu, it will be lucy who will probably take the first step, he said that tooka is in love with natsu, it is good that it is used in order to move the thing for them, if it is not exploited it was useless to put that.

Make a little jealous lucy (and I said a little) and the decided to move a little developed the possible link established between her and him via what happened with the book of END.

Mashima must assume what he shows on twitter, there the mini doujins in the bath, we see that lucy who was drunk but ready has "" attacked "" XD natsu and as we say the alcohol sa décoince a little.

So he has to assume it, otherwise it would be ugly for the fans after we taunted so much, XD, especially since it costs him nothing to do it and it does not seem to him a problem or disturbed.

So finally, he must conclude at the end but before he has to do real development of couples for them.

 

[yutu]

Personally I feel Mashima should give NALU bit more development.


He did great job regarding GALE so he should have done the same here.


Pure Twitter arts won't make the cut ultimately.He should at least make them confess their love for each other and or marriage.

On the contrary, I find the GALE less interesting and elaborate than that of the NALU and Jerza and gruvia, because even with the spin of on gajeel we see no evolution of their relationship that is shown to us (for me). We just. . :
I crucify you on a tree followed by a tree, I protect you from laxus to get me accepted into the guild. I will accompany you to the S rank test to show the other that I have the level and face the S ranks.
Tartaros LEvy makes mouth-to-mouth to save him and a year later they are in the same bed.
For me it's not developing enough he should have had at least in the spin of having a scary levy and a gajeel trying every way to get levy to accept and forgive him and then do missions with him. When I see the relationship between gajeel and levy I can't help but see a levy with stockholm syndrome.
"Sorry for the grammatical and other mistakes I'm not good at English"

 

[Arjuna]

On the contrary, I find the GALE less interesting and elaborate than that of the NALU and Jerza and gruvia, because even with the spin of on gajeel we see no evolution of their relationship that is shown to us (for me). We just. . :
I crucify you on a tree followed by a tree, I protect you from laxus to get me accepted into the guild. I will accompany you to the S rank test to show the other that I have the level and face the S ranks.
Tartaros LEvy makes mouth-to-mouth to save him and a year later they are in the same bed.
For me it's not developing enough he should have had at least in the spin of having a scary levy and a gajeel trying every way to get levy to accept and forgive him and then do missions with him. When I see the relationship between gajeel and levy I can't help but see a levy with stockholm syndrome.
"Sorry for the grammatical and other mistakes I'm not good at English"

Doesn't matter from an enemy/rivals they turned into lovers through different stages and became the most established.


Reminds me of Touka and kaneki's relationship in Tokyo Ghoul.


Or Kaname Ohgi & Villetta Nu from Code Geass and Guts and Casca from Berserk.

 

[yutu]

They skipped too many steps to become a lover to my taste to the point of thinking from the arc of training the great magic games that levy had the syndrome. Even erza was suspicious of gajeel up to the tenro bow (since she refused to let him be a candidate for the exam) and levy didn't. However, she was the one who learned the most to the point of telling me that if Jet and Droy would have done as a gajeel, Levy would have agreed to go out with them.

 

[strikefreedom]

The GALE is the best-developed couple but he went a bit fast because he still lacks something.

But that's because we did not see these steps.

They went from enemie, to just quick friends, to friends, to couples, from what we saw in the manga.

But Levy already seemed to have seen on him in Tenro with his Iron written with a heart + she is jealous when gajeel do the queu to see erza as a nurse.

During the training before the game, she sulks because gajeel did not want her to come, lucy told him a big underdog.

But gajeel does not really seem to have a view of Levy, tartaros mouth to mouth does not seem shocked or marked more than that.

And so after 1 year they would be in a relationship, but we did not see how it was done, did he just couple or is it already 6 months are together?

So it would be nice if we saw it XD, or at least an XD index for how it happened XD.

For the jerza, it just misses the final, wedding ring request.

Gruvia, must be shown more and shown a real development.

The same nalu, must be shown more at the level of true romance but will be on the side of lucy that.

 

[Axiomus]

Because Lucy usually doesn't try to grope Natsu or peep at him, and even if she did, Natsu doesn't seem to mind. but yeah, I misunderstood since I'm generally used to Natsu assaulting Lucy, and it being defended or normalized. That was a badass armbar though.

Wrongu. If Mashima handled the pair better, I would be all good with it, instead of making it one-sided or friendzoned and having fans defend that as a romantic relationship. I've said this countless times.

I mean, Mashima only draws her trying to cuddle with him when she's drunk.

Spoiler

Or pulling him into hugs or just to be closer to him.

Spoiler

Drag him out on a date and share an icecream cone with him.

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Or like, you know, kissing him on the cheek or lovingly eating with him.

Spoiler

I don't think Natsu and Lucy playfully wrestling with each other, which is something you generally only do with people you trust and like, counts as sexual assault. Now I haven't been sexually assaulted while rolling, but I am 99% sure you can't tap out to a sexual assault.

Look I'm not saying NaLu is a full blown romance like Gajeel and Levy, but Lucy clearly has some feelings for Natsu in the manga. It's just a really slow-progressing, possibly one sided love. It's not much different from Gray and Juvia, or Erza and Jellal. For me, they look happiest when they're beside each other, and that is good enough for me to enjoy.[/spoiler]

 

[Reebi]

I mean, Mashima only draws her trying to cuddle with him when she's drunk.

Spoiler

Or pulling him into hugs or just to be closer to him.

Spoiler

Drag him out on a date and share an icecream cone with him.

Spoiler

Or like, you know, kissing him on the cheek or lovingly eating with him.

Spoiler

I don't think Natsu and Lucy playfully wrestling with each other, which is something you generally only do with people you trust and like, counts as sexual assault. Now I haven't been sexually assaulted while rolling, but I am 99% sure you can't tap out to a sexual assault.

Look I'm not saying NaLu is a full blown romance like Gajeel and Levy, but Lucy clearly has some feelings for Natsu in the manga. It's just a really slow-progressing, possibly one sided love. It's not much different from Gray and Juvia, or Erza and Jellal. For me, they look happiest when they're beside each other, and that is good enough for me to enjoy.[/spoiler]

I got the impression she wants him to put her down seeing as he lifted her up.

 

[M3J]

Personally I feel Mashima should give NALU bit more development.


He did great job regarding GALE so he should have done the same here.


Pure Twitter arts won't make the cut ultimately.He should at least make them confess their love for each other and or marriage.



This way it will be good.

Exactly.

Ah but that didn’t stop you from immediately say how good of a ship him and Touka would be from just that little explanation from Touka of how how she met him (supposedly) and fell for him which could be extremely likely one-sided. Lol

Because if Natsu for some odd reason likes her back, there's more to it than Natsu and Lucy, other than Natsu and Lucy being on-screen for years as compared to Touka alone.

I mean, Mashima only draws her trying to cuddle with him when she's drunk.

Spoiler

Or pulling him into hugs or just to be closer to him.

Spoiler

Drag him out on a date and share an icecream cone with him.

Spoiler

Or like, you know, kissing him on the cheek or lovingly eating with him.

Spoiler

I don't think Natsu and Lucy playfully wrestling with each other, which is something you generally only do with people you trust and like, counts as sexual assault. Now I haven't been sexually assaulted while rolling, but I am 99% sure you can't tap out to a sexual assault.

Look I'm not saying NaLu is a full blown romance like Gajeel and Levy, but Lucy clearly has some feelings for Natsu in the manga. It's just a really slow-progressing, possibly one sided love. It's not much different from Gray and Juvia, or Erza and Jellal. For me, they look happiest when they're beside each other, and that is good enough for me to enjoy.[/spoiler]

and yet none of this is in the manga, it's just one-sided romantic like/affection from Lucy as we both agree on. Blame Natsu/Mashima for this not being a romantic couple or having much development, if any. It's kinda bad if you have to rely on fan art or stuff not in the manga to back it up.

Gray and Juvia and Erza and Jellal are actually better because we know they love each other. One couple is together while the other couple thinks they can't be together due to stuff.

 

[Raven]

Natsu said to Lucy "We are gonna be together forever".. In Japanese culture, This phrase is said to your girl friend, the one who love, not just any girl. Natsu actually showed abit from his side based on this phrase.. Like it or not, It doesn't matter, your opinion matter to nothing against facts.

Many may think this is unpopular opinion but I don't think Jerza or Gale are any better than Nalu. They just happened like that randomly. No taste in these ships. Nalu and Gruvia are gained and deserved..

 

[Star Frost]

Because if Natsu for some odd reason likes her back, there's more to it than Natsu and Lucy, other than Natsu and Lucy being on-screen for years as compared to Touka alone.

But that’s the thing, you don’t even know if Natsu likes her back. You have seen nothing from Natsu’s POV but only Touka’s that instead of waiting and see where it even goes from his pov, you immediately say they’re a good pair despite it can be highly one sided just as you claimed about Lucy that you want us to believe you claim that as to why you refuse to claim them a good pair. Then you tried to do something with the whole Gray catching Lucy thing. So really whether it being one sided on Lucy’s part or not doesn’t really matter but only an excuse. Nalu just isn’t the pair you really like even with a good written development. But you do you.

 

[M3J]

But that’s the thing, you don’t even know if Natsu likes her back. You have seen nothing from Natsu’s POV but only Touka’s that instead of waiting and see where it even goes from his pov, you immediately say they’re a good pair despite it can be highly one sided just as you claimed about Lucy that you want us to believe you claim that as to why you refuse to claim them a good pair. Then you tried to do something with the whole Gray catching Lucy thing. So really whether it being one sided on Lucy’s part or not doesn’t really matter but only an excuse. Nalu just isn’t the pair you really like even with a good written development. But you do you.

That's because the pair doesn't have any good written development in romantic terms. Natsu saying "I wanna be with you forever" isn't romantic given his friendship with Lucy. No one has provided proof as to how the pair is romantic or what makes it romantic, other than non-canon artwork. Blame Mashima, not me. Tell him to make Natsu admit his feelings or show romantic interest in Lucy instead of drawing them wrestling.