Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[Raven]

Haters gonna hate, Butthurted gonna bait, but Nalu is Canon and great

 

[strikefreedom]

After the "" we will always be together "", it depends on context, you do not tell anyone.

Because otherwise it means that natsu will never let him go, like Sherry who left Lamia for getting married with ren.

This is oppression and sequestration there XD.

Then that lucy is envious of the relationship of gajeel and levy, so she wants to be in a couple, this groom, have children.

So if she does not get along with natsu, they will not always be able to be together, lucy is not going to '' get spoiled '' do it to have kids, found love and just stay with natsu if he's right a friend .

So natsu's phrase must be seen as a more indirect way than Haru's phrase, '' When all is over, do you want us to live together on the Garage Islands? "", translation = do you want to marry me?

Haru does not have the strength to stay with him, but the difference being that Haru knows him the principle of the love or for natsu him he seems lost XD.

Natsu did not ask for lucy in marriage but he makes her understand that he wants what remains on this side.

That's why in 100 quest, the real I love you, it will come from lucy, and maybe as with gray, erza will discuss it with natsu to teach him the lesson.

In the same way that naruto in the last, natsu will think a little, but I think it's lucy who will take the first step, and then it will be more original than be the girl who does it rather than the guy and in their situation would be more logical to them.

 

[M3J]

That's lame. Just admit there's no romance there, not on Natsu's end. I'm not sure how or why anyone is still arguing that it's canon or there's romance there when they can't provide anything in the manga, just tweets, fan-arts, and mangaka saying and drawing things that aren't in the manga itself. I can understand being in denial though, it's okay. Honestly, all it takes is for Natsu to actually show some sort of romantic feelings rather than friendzone feelings.

If it helps though, I think Natsu and Lucy are the best friendzoned/friendship pairings in the manga.

 

[Raven]

Believe what makes you sleep, I actually don't care about what you think, It matters to nothing as i said before since it's against facts. "together forever" is said to your lover. This is the first romantic line Natsu has ever said to Lucy. but Is it perfect? no, Is it satisfiable? no. Bad written? yes. Still doesn't change the fact that it is romantic line.

Actually saying that people believe Nalu is a pairing are in denial are obvious baiting and insulting to a big mass of people.. You sound your opinion like if it is true, It's not. Move on from baiting and start saying something useful or new than repeating yourself again and again. Don't you get bored saying the same shit over 3 years? It's funny, get a life

 

[strikefreedom]

And then remember that, natsu is an idiot, an idiot type shonen hero.

As luffy and goku to mention that they , as long as they do not explain, they do not understand anything about the concept of love, couple and everything.

Even an intelligent hero like Edward in FMA, never said anything romantic about winry, though he made it clear that he worried about her.

And that unlike natsu it was 10 km that he liked winri because Ed knows the concept of love.

Besides, his declaration of love / marriage proposal has winri, it's also indirect, he does not say I love you wants you marry me.

Too shy XD, he said I give you 50% of my life so give me 50% of yours, translation again I love you wants you spent your life with me.

Winri understood and even outbid the case XD with its 100%, translation = it is yes.

So here it is for natsu we saw that lucy was very important to him, he wants all the time to be with her on mission, even when they are not on missions they always hang out together, in dragon cry when natsu is dying, lucy is put on a very special plan and in the light.

But as he does not know the concept of love, he acts this way, as when Asuka tells them to kiss, Natsu does not bother him because he does not know that only the couple do it.

Even when they will be in a relationship, their habit will not change, it's just that he will take more hand in the street, lucy will turn over the bed XD.

 

[M3J]

Yeah and none of the three have any romantic interest in anyone. Edward showed obvious signs of his romantic interest in Winry while Naruto confessed he had a crush on Sakura. Hell, even Sasuke showed he had some soft spot for Sakura, and that's more of a romantic development than Natsu and Lucy ever had, and SasuSaku makes no sense whatsoever. Ed wasn't that indirect either, he proposed to Winry, whereas all Natsu did was state he wanted them to be together, which can mean friendship. Ed made his proposal and interest in Winry clear for many chapters whereas Natsu never did.

Not knowing the concept of love is not an excuse when he's shown no signs of it. That's like saying Luffy is into Nami just because he's hellbent on having her with him on adventures, and that he hasn't said anything because he doesn't understand concept of love. If he had romantic interest in Nami, it'd be far more obvious. Lucy's romantic feelings for Natsu is obvious because while she hasn't said anything, we've seen how she acts towards him. Natsu however, can prefer Lucy because he sees Gray as a rival and is scared of Erza, whereas Lucy is a pushover.

What's Dragon Cry? Is that a chapter or a filler episode? And I highly doubt they'll be in a relationship unless Natsu is tricked into one like Goku was. In order for that to happen, Natsu actually has to want to be in one and show he has romantic interest in Lucy. Fan arts don't count.

 

[kayochin]

Yeah and none of the three have any romantic interest in anyone. Edward showed obvious signs of his romantic interest in Winry while Naruto confessed he had a crush on Sakura. Hell, even Sasuke showed he had some soft spot for Sakura, and that's more of a romantic development than Natsu and Lucy ever had, and SasuSaku makes no sense whatsoever. Ed wasn't that indirect either, he proposed to Winry, whereas all Natsu did was state he wanted them to be together, which can mean friendship. Ed made his proposal and interest in Winry clear for many chapters whereas Natsu never did.

Not knowing the concept of love is not an excuse when he's shown no signs of it. That's like saying Luffy is into Nami just because he's hellbent on having her with him on adventures, and that he hasn't said anything because he doesn't understand concept of love. If he had romantic interest in Nami, it'd be far more obvious. Lucy's romantic feelings for Natsu is obvious because while she hasn't said anything, we've seen how she acts towards him. Natsu however, can prefer Lucy because he sees Gray as a rival and is scared of Erza, whereas Lucy is a pushover.

What's Dragon Cry? Is that a chapter or a filler episode? And I highly doubt they'll be in a relationship unless Natsu is tricked into one like Goku was. In order for that to happen, Natsu actually has to want to be in one and show he has romantic interest in Lucy. Fan arts don't count.

Dragon Cry is the second movie which Mashima storyboarded and acknowledges to be canon in the manga (I don’t remember which chapter it is mentioned). The movie had a lot of nalu subtext but what @strikefreedom is referring to is a scene where Natsu is unconscious and pictures his friends from his perspective. Lucy is the last one seen and she’s holding his hand and smiling at him. It makes it quite clear he sees her in a different light than the rest. It’s much like the scene in tartarus where gray sees juvia during his fight with silver.

In regards to saying what natsu said was friendzoning, I don’t know what kind of relationship you have with your friends, but personally I wouldn’t hold my guy friend’s hands and tell them I wanted to be together with them forever unless it was romantic. but I guess that’s me lol.

 

[strikefreedom]

Yeah and none of the three have any romantic interest in anyone. Edward showed obvious signs of his romantic interest in Winry while Naruto confessed he had a crush on Sakura. Hell, even Sasuke showed he had some soft spot for Sakura, and that's more of a romantic development than Natsu and Lucy ever had, and SasuSaku makes no sense whatsoever. Ed wasn't that indirect either, he proposed to Winry, whereas all Natsu did was state he wanted them to be together, which can mean friendship. Ed made his proposal and interest in Winry clear for many chapters whereas Natsu never did.

Not knowing the concept of love is not an excuse when he's shown no signs of it. That's like saying Luffy is into Nami just because he's hellbent on having her with him on adventures, and that he hasn't said anything because he doesn't understand concept of love. If he had romantic interest in Nami, it'd be far more obvious. Lucy's romantic feelings for Natsu is obvious because while she hasn't said anything, we've seen how she acts towards him. Natsu however, can prefer Lucy because he sees Gray as a rival and is scared of Erza, whereas Lucy is a pushover.

What's Dragon Cry? Is that a chapter or a filler episode? And I highly doubt they'll be in a relationship unless Natsu is tricked into one like Goku was. In order for that to happen, Natsu actually has to want to be in one and show he has romantic interest in Lucy. Fan arts don't count.

Well, knowing the concept of love changes a lot.

If natsu knew what it means to sleep with a girl, kiss, hold hands, say certain words, change her things.

Look hancok with luffy, she does not understand the feeling that he lives, until it is explained that it is love.

Luffy seems to know what marriage is, since he tells her that he does not want to get married.

Goku does not know him, he thought it was a cake, I think.

Chichi is crazy about goku, but he just keeps his promise, but over time, we say that he has developed some feelings for fuss, we do not count DBS of course.

In another way, a person who has never known friendship and understands the concept, someone needs to explain and experiment with it.

Dragon cry is the 2nd film of FT which has been recognized canon by 100 quest.

It's this scene.


See how Lucy is put differently than others.

Just like when lucy F is dead.

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Lucy is well put in the light that's how natsu remembers it while in the original scene natsu did not even look at it.

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They are quite explicit scenes to show the importance of lucy vis-à-vis natsu.

But it's just that natsu, do not know how to act "" romantic "" because he has no concept of that.

That's why I insist that I love you will come from lucy, but that natsu will start acting a little differently before that in 100 quest.

 

[Otaku shrink]

Gruvia, must be shown more and shown a real development.

To be honest, I feel like we already had some pretty solid development in terms of Gruvia. (Chapters 416, 453, 499 especially). Those were meant to be major developments in solidifying their bond, and I’d say the ending was mainly a full-circle event where Juvia was stripping and Gray was possessive. At the very least, Mashima meant for that to be the signal that the relationship was there.
(I base this on my own conversation with Mashima and the Japanese raws.)

 

[M3J]

In regards to saying what natsu said was friendzoning, I don’t know what kind of relationship you have with your friends, but personally I wouldn’t hold my guy friend’s hands and tell them I wanted to be together with them forever unless it was romantic. but I guess that’s me lol.

But you'd show a sign of romantic interest and not just go on treating the guy like a friend/bro.

 

[strikefreedom]

To be honest, I feel like we already had some pretty solid development in terms of Gruvia. (Chapters 416, 453, 499 especially). Those were meant to be major developments in solidifying their bond, and I’d say the ending was mainly a full-circle event where Juvia was stripping and Gray was possessive. At the very least, Mashima meant for that to be the signal that the relationship was there.
(I base this on my own conversation with Mashima and the Japanese raws.)

Yes that's the case, but the 100 percent, we should also be small moments gruvia.

As on the cover pages where we see them fishing, or in EZ in the background of the image we see them in appointments.

Or people see them in the street holding hands, a little embarrassed.

Especially if Jubia came under the control of Tooka, we hope to see a gray that tries to wake her up.

This is the kind of thing we would like to see for them.

But mainly we want to see the conclusion of nalu and jerza.

 

[Star Frost]

So as you guys know, there was a manga comic con in Germany that Mashima attended on the 22nd and check this out that someone that was there had live tweeted of some good news that may please a lot m of people (and maybe displease some if they’re not a fan) about a certain pair:

Credits to Susanne Kataka

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He’s so evil for this but I’m so happy!

 

[Arjuna]

So as you guys know, there was a manga comic con in Germany that Mashima attended on the 22nd and check this out that someone that was there had live tweeted of some good news that may please a lot m of people (and maybe displease some if they’re not a fan) about a certain pair:

Credits to Susanne Kataka

Spoiler

He’s so evil for this but I’m so happy!

Then he should make it happen in the manga.


"Mashima wants NALU to happen" and he doesn't progress the relationship in the most important place i.e. the manga.Just make it cannon in the manga and stop all shipping war.

 

[strikefreedom]

If that's really what mashima said, he has interest in the assumption XD.

But hey must still develop it in the manga, especially after the last chapter, it can do a good DRAMA with that XD.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

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[Axiomus]

Well, hopefully the next few chapters develope Natsu and Lucy a bit more. The theories about Natsu's life now being anchored on Lucy's after she rewrote his book has potential.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

 

[fidosa]

YES! That is such great news!! I'm so giddy and happy right now

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Then he should make it happen in the manga.


"Mashima wants NALU to happen" and he doesn't progress the relationship in the most important place i.e. the manga.Just make it cannon in the manga and stop all shipping war.

Or maybe this is all a scheme to keep the discussion about Fairy Tail alive and kicking and we're all falling into his trap. Evil mastermind, Mashima.

 

[Arjuna]

YES! That is such great news!! I'm so giddy and happy right now

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Or maybe this is all a scheme to keep the discussion about Fairy Tail alive and kicking and we're all falling into his trap. Evil mastermind, Mashima.

He is pathetic in writing romance in manga, just read Tokyo Ghoul or Inuyasha or Full Metal Alchemist to see how well romance is done there.

 

[strikefreedom]

YES! That is such great news!! I'm so giddy and happy right now

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Or maybe this is all a scheme to keep the discussion about Fairy Tail alive and kicking and we're all falling into his trap. Evil mastermind, Mashima.

Except that if he does that, he will attract the lightning of the fans and certainly lose the 3/4 of these fans.

Which by repercussion will no longer read EZ as an example in the best case.

Otherwise he will be insulted on his Twitter, as was the case by some with the last chapter of FT.

So he has no interest in doing that.

And it's not like he was asked for the moon either, just to assume the romances he put in place.

And then he confessed that he loved taunt the fans in the good sense of the word, XD.