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His mission was to bring down Zeref. You said he tried and I'm asking you in how he tried? He couldn't even get to him.
Creation of Crime Sorcière, the search for Zeref through Dark Guilds like Avatar and such. We didn't get much of jellal since the story mainly followed FT, but we know he tried.
 

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Creation of Crime Sorcière, the search for Zeref through Dark Guilds like Avatar and such. We didn't get much of jellal since the story mainly followed FT, but we know he tried.
All that amounted for nothing. He didn't even help take down Avatar.
 
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All that amounted for nothing. He didn't even help take down Avatar.
Okay and how does that matter to what I said? His group exposed them to Erza which inevitably led to Avatar going down. Though I never said he took down Avatar so idk why you brought that up.
 

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Okay and how does that matter to what I said? His group exposed them to Erza which inevitably led to Avatar going down. Though I never said he took down Avatar so idk why you brought that up.
You said he "tried" to do his mission but he never tried for it. He didn't take down any major antagonists, didn't take down any dark guilds or even help, and didn't take down or even get to Zeref.


What? You brought up Avatar in the first place.
 

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You said he "tried" to do his mission but he never tried for it.


What? You brought up Avatar...not me.
Except he did try that much was pretty obvious. Just because he failed doesn't mean he didn't try.

I brought them up, correct but never said he took down Avatar.
 

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Except he did try that much was pretty obvious. Just because he failed doesn't mean he didn't try.

I brought them up, correct but never said he took down Avatar.
In what way did he try? I've asked this three times now. There are characters that have done his mission better then him without even trying.

No I said that.....
 

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In what way did he try? I've asked this three times now. There are characters that have done his mission better then him without even trying.

No I said that.....
I just told you how he tried. Good for them?

okay.
 

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You said he "tried" to do his mission but he never tried for it. He didn't take down any major antagonists, didn't take down any dark guilds or even help, and didn't take down or even get to Zeref.


What? You brought up Avatar in the first place.
There’s only been one person who took down an major antagonist that wasn’t part of team Natsu that was Makarov
 

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I just told you how he tried. Good for them?

okay.
But he didn't try. He had no hand in taking down Zeref. Not only did he not take down Zeref directly or any of his subordinates, he did not take down any of the guilds revolved around him.

So no, he did not try. He left all the heavy lifting for everyone else lmao.
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There’s only been one person who took down an major antagonist that wasn’t part of team Natsu that was Makarov
And Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Mira, Elfman + Lisanna, etc.
 

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But he didn't try. He had no hand in taking down Zeref. Not only did he not take down Zeref directly or any of his subordinates, he did not take down any of the guilds revolved around him.

So no, he did not try. He left all the heavy lifting for everyone else lmao.
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And Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Mira, Elfman + Lisanna, etc.
Because Hiro wanted the main characters to mostly do it
 

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But he didn't try. He had no hand in taking down Zeref. Not only did he not take down Zeref directly or any of his subordinates, he did not take down any of the guilds revolved around him.

So no, he did not try. He left all the heavy lifting for everyone else lmao.
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And Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Mira, Elfman + Lisanna, etc.
Laxus did help them with Hades so I guess you can count him. Both none of the other one I cannot think of any mostly because I’m thinking about the head villain in each arc while you’re thinking of every villain
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Jellal is a side character like everyone I mentioned.
Besides Laxus name me a major villain those people fight against
 

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Laxus did help them with Hades so I guess you can count him. Both none of the other one I cannot think of any mostly because I’m thinking about the head villain in each arc while you’re thinking of every villain
Each person I mentioned had a direct hand in taking down a Spriggan who was a major antagonist.

Jellal didn't even beat Neinhart, Natsu did.
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Besides Laxus name me a major villain those people fight against
August, Bloodman, Ajeel.
 

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But he didn't try. He had no hand in taking down Zeref. Not only did he not take down Zeref directly or any of his subordinates, he did not take down any of the guilds revolved around him.

So no, he did not try. He left all the heavy lifting for everyone else lmao.
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And Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Mira, Elfman + Lisanna, etc.
He tried when he made a guild specifically to take down dark guilds and Zeref. He tried when he was shown investigating during the GmG. He tried when he exposed Avatar to Erza, implying he had more important matters to investigate. He tried against the Spriggans, he succeeded in subduing Oración Seis.

I get that he didn't get much attention for most the series and didn't succeed , but to say he didn't try to accomplish his huge goal is out right false.
 

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He tried when he made a guild specifically to take down dark guilds and Zeref. He tried when he was shown investigating during the GmG. He tried when he exposed Avatar to Erza, implying he had more important matters to investigate. He tried against the Spriggans, he succeeded in subduing Oración Seis.

I get that he didn't get much attention for most the series and didn't succeed , but to say he didn't try to accomplish his huge goal is out right false.
Took down 0 dark guilds and didn't pose a threat to Zeref. Team Natsu would've taken down Avatar so he didn't do anything. Didn't do anything against the Spriggan and beat Oracion Seis when they weren't a threat. Tartartos was the threat.

It might be to you but beating fodder in the Alvarez Army isn't "trying."
 

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Each person I mentioned had a direct hand in taking down a Spriggan who was a major antagonist.

Jellal didn't even beat Neinhart, Natsu did.
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August, Bloodman, Ajeel.
That’s like saying Natsu didn’t beat Jacob Mirajane did

Zeref and Anco were the major antagonists in that arc not them
 

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That’s like saying Natsu didn’t beat Jacob Mirajane did

Zeref and Anco were the major antagonists in that arc not them
No he didn't, he temporarily put him out of action but didn't beat him in the end.

Yes, let's forget that 85% of the arc revolved around the Spriggans.
 

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Took down 0 dark guilds and didn't pose a threat to Zeref. Team Natsu would've taken down Avatar so he didn't do anything. Didn't do anything against the Spriggan and beat Oracion Seis when they weren't a threat. Tartartos was the threat.

It might be to you but beating fodder in the Alvarez Army isn't "trying."
Unless you meant on panel
 

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Took down 0 dark guilds and didn't pose a threat to Zeref. Team Natsu would've taken down Avatar so he didn't do anything. Didn't do anything against the Spriggan and beat Oracion Seis when they weren't a threat. Tartartos was the threat.

It might be to you but beating fodder in the Alvarez Army isn't "trying."
We don't know that since they're were multiple dark guilds around the continent and Ratrace sent the panel. Team Natsu wouldn't have known of Avatar if it wasn't for Jellal. Wrong, he beat Neinhart helping in the retaking of the town. A bunch of rag tag criminals weren't a threat? Okay....

You do realize "trying" means to attempt to do something not succeeding in doing something? Your confusing the two
 
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