The Origin of Dragon

Bugzee

MH Senpai
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
May 17, 2009
Messages
8,407
Reaction score
5,223
Gender
Male
Country
United Kingdom
Honestly I rly believe his wife (Luffy's mother) was killed by the WG. Doesn't rly have to be killed directly by them, but she died because of them. Hence his motives for going against the WG. Simpl revenge. However I don't want that to happen, I rly hope Im wrong with that. Even though in my eyes it is the most easiest idea to happen.

@Dung D Manh: You disagree with everything and u are not able to come up with something. Why do even bother posting in this thread?
I think thats a great theory/idea for Dragon's opposal of the WG. But, I agree with you, I would prefer the reason to be something else.

Maybe, that Dadan guy is also with RV's?
 

Lord Rayleigh

Intl Translator
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Aug 20, 2008
Messages
3,137
Reaction score
4,281
Gender
Male
Country
France
A personal reason would be really bad for the character. I don't think so many people and countries would follow a man that seeks personal vengeance.
Bonaparte, " A man truly man does not hate. His anger and his bad moon do not last more than a minute. "
Who would like Dragon, a Monkey D, to be a slave of his hatred ?
 

Finale

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
527
Reaction score
100
Gender
Male
Country
United States
A personal reason would be really bad for the character. I don't think so many people and countries would follow a man that seeks personal vengeance.
Bonaparte, " A man truly man does not hate. His anger and his bad moon do not last more than a minute. "
Who would like Dragon, a Monkey D, to be a slave of his hatred ?
I would have to agree. Everyone that Nico Robin ever knew was killed by the WG yet she isnt motivatd by revenge but a desire t o know the true history.
 

goldb

Strongest Under the Sun
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
27,709
Reaction score
27,506
Gender
Male
Country
United Kingdom
Since we're speculating about Dragon, has anyone wondered what it will be like when He and Luffy meet? if it has then dodge the question. I personally don't think he and Luffy will get on because his way of thinking and doing thing won't agree with Luffy.
 

Finale

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
527
Reaction score
100
Gender
Male
Country
United States
It seems right now that Dragon is the only serious member of that family so who knows. He does seem to value freedom. However we dont really know his view on pirates in general. If he wants to overthrow the WG then the pirates that are left over will be a problem for whoever comes to power next. Can't wait to see if he has the family narcolepsy though. Dragon will be have a heated argument with Garp discussing the politics of the world and just before it comes to blows they both fall asleep on each other.
 

senewe

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Dec 13, 2008
Messages
408
Reaction score
96
Gender
Male
Country
Indonesia
this maybe crazy,,
but i think

dragon is robin's dad

at one point, dragon traveled to ohara and met olivia. and they felt in love, got married. (that's why robin's hair is black. and i found almost all people in ohara were white-haired). from that, dragon knew about the void century, and how it is related to will of D. and i think the people carrying name D. are descendent of that unknown kingdom that annihilated at void century...
and because he knew that, he planed to form a rebel army to the WG

crazy idea, isn't it....

and that's why kuma sent robin to the bridge, because he want robin to meet the VA
and eventually VA attacked the bridge
 

Finale

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
527
Reaction score
100
Gender
Male
Country
United States
I would have to say Peace Mains or whatever type they are called. As long as they sail for adventure and not going around just to pillage and kill. The reason people began to respect Hannybal of Impel Down is becuase he had a point about people being scared of pirates. There are some really unsavory ones out that that kill innocent people.
 

iFrozt

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Jul 12, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
6
Gender
Male
Country
United States
from the new world chapter 0
it shows that dragon was there when roger was executed

this could mean that dragon started out as a pirate like everybody else but during that 20ish year, something happened to him for him to form the Revolutionary Army roughly 5 years ago
 

urlaub

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2009
Messages
632
Reaction score
60
Gender
Male
Country
Estonia
Maybe Draon is hiding himself with this coat, because he doesn't want to be seen. Of course maybe because of the rain, but still. This could mean that he was careful already then. This is a far fetch for a revolutionist altough. Maybe he belongs to a confession or something? But seriously, he could have been a pirate, revolutionary or a marine. Nothing is ruled out. There really are no sound arguments. All the arguments that start with the facts of his appearance, words or relations are disputable. I had my argument, but you could offer it too. For example Garp's son--Garp want's to raise marines(we presume that wish didn't appear with Ace and Luffy)--Dragon at the beginning a marine. And also: Dragon a revolitonary that want's to question the power of this world--a motive--motive could be possibly triggered by some knowledge about the world government's past(the other possibility is personal past)--hence he was on Rogers ship, because they knew about the void century(the other possibility he was a marine and grew to unlike the WG dirty means)-- hence a pirate or a marine in past.

Also there is this possibility that: 1. very unknown identity 2. so his been hiding himself purposely--motive?--to protect near ones, to not leak information? This does not though show his origin. But could lead to speculations about close ones(Robins dad etc). Or speculations about the importance of leaking information. Maybe they think that acting in secret is a more effective means. This however doesn't mean anything about Dragons origins again.

So all arguments are scrutinizable and maybe some more than others. The reason is that to little facts. Sceptics are triumphing.
 

Finale

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
527
Reaction score
100
Gender
Male
Country
United States
If the islands of OP had more than one season, i would speculate that Dragon was the worlds greatest weatherman. We've seen that they have a sophisicated news agency for the world being the way it is. Well Dragon could have started out as a weatherman then decided to get into investigative journalism. He then either joined Roger's crew as an observer or got entrenched with a Marine detachment. Being with Roger, he came to respect him a great deal. After the disbandment of the Roger pirates, the WG tried to get Dragon to reveal all the secrets he learned while aboard Rgoer's ship. He refused out of respect for his friend and vanished before the WG could capture him. Now for the Marine side. Being attached to the Marines as a reporter he witnessed the despicableness of Absolute Justice and that made him form the Revolutionaries. Or he could also have been freelanced and visited islands that suffered the Buster Call.
 

Razh

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Nov 27, 2007
Messages
7,302
Reaction score
3,580
Age
41
Gender
Male
Country
Croatia
Maybe Draon is hiding himself with this coat, because he doesn't want to be seen.

Also there is this possibility that: 1. very unknown identity 2. so his been hiding himself purposely--motive?--to protect near ones, to not leak information?
He doesn't have unknown identity. Everyone knows who he is since he's the world's most wanted man. Which is why he's hiding under the cloak when in WG controlled islands. So that when he walks the streets people don't just start screaming - Holy shit, it's fuckin' Dragon, call maaarineeees, quuuuicklyyyyyy!!!!!!!

As to why he was wearing a hood during Roger's execution, who knows. I don't think he was that well known then. WG did not recognize him as a threat until 10 years later. Maybe it was just because of rain.
 

Poneglyph420

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jul 24, 2009
Messages
1,317
Reaction score
597
Gender
Male
Country
Marine Headquarters
I would have to say Peace Mains or whatever type they are called. As long as they sail for adventure and not going around just to pillage and kill. The reason people began to respect Hannybal of Impel Down is becuase he had a point about people being scared of pirates. There are some really unsavory ones out that that kill innocent people.

Yeah totally in "Romance Dawn" They were called Morgania. And they are all over the place it seems.

As far as the fact that we see Dragon at the execution of Roger it shows he has some history with that age. But for sure we have no idea if he was a pirate. But I'd think he was more likely to have been a pirate than a Marine.

Then again you never know with Oda.
He might of just heard so much from Garp he had to see for himself.
 

iKeno

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
43
Reaction score
7
Gender
Male
Country
United Kingdom
this maybe crazy,,
but i think

dragon is robin's dad

at one point, dragon traveled to ohara and met olivia. and they felt in love, got married. (that's why robin's hair is black. and i found almost all people in ohara were white-haired). from that, dragon knew about the void century, and how it is related to will of D. and i think the people carrying name D. are descendent of that unknown kingdom that annihilated at void century...
and because he knew that, he planed to form a rebel army to the WG

crazy idea, isn't it....

and that's why kuma sent robin to the bridge, because he want robin to meet the VA
and eventually VA attacked the bridge
Wouldn't Garp have told her at the same time he told Luffy about his father? Nah man I don't think he's her dad.
 
Top