The strongest marine

[ScratchmenApoo]

Well Gorousei aren't really the strongest "marines" by definition, because they are a seperate group, but on the "good" side, I believe they are the strongest (Even though they are old - so are Garp and Sengoku - look how badass they are).
The strongest marine, however, I think is Garp.

 

[THM Nindo]

Garp and Sengoku are certainly at the top for me.
We all know that Garp was "admiral potential" for so long.

And we saw a bit of what Sengoku can do (make everyone from the Blackbeard pirates" bleed with a simple palm strike to the air).

Next are the admiral...
I can't tell which one is the strongest between Kizaru and Aikanu, but Aokiji is definitely the weakest of the three.

 

[BetaRuler]

Umm... Marines right... So why the Gorousei and Sentoumaru? If I'm right, isn't Sentoumaru just Vegapunks bodyguard? And Vegapunk isn't a marine, just like CP1 to CP9 aren't marines, So they technically don't come into this poll right?

Personally, I think it's a toss-up between Garp, Sengoku and the Admirals, I might dare say Aokiji is currently the strongest.

 

[frontaLobotomy]

I ranked the top three as: 1-Sengoku 2-Garp 3-Admirals.

 

[bittman]

@Bittman: They may be of the last generation, but even Rayleigh was able to fight Kizaru to a standstill, and he was only Roger's first-mate. Garp is presumably even stronger than Rayleigh, since he fought on near-equal ground with Roger. There's a good chance he's stronger than Akainu.

You mean Kizaru, the playful monkey? One of two people who remained completely uninjured through the war? If you look at the fight again, Kizaru jokes with Rayleigh that he's doing quite well to hold him back from taking out the Strawhats, but even then the battle was on an extremely short term and you can see Rayleigh sweating.

Plus, there's nothing anywhere to say that Rayleigh isn't just as strong as Roger. We've seen a lot of first-mates in our time, and the difference between them and the captain is usually very very small, if even existant. Given what we've seen and heard of Rayleigh, and what we know about first mates, Rayleigh is probably comparable in strength to Roger. But once again, he's 22 years past his prime.

And you're comparing someone who was in his prime, to someone who is in his prime (garp vs Akainu). In Garp's prime, it's very likely he was stronger than Akainu given what we've heard about Garp. So if the poll was "Who has been the strongest marine in their prime?" I would think about this a lot more and probably end up voting for Garp.

As it stands, I can't go past Akainu. Might just be my interpretation of events though.

 

[Fox666]

1. Sengoku
A shockwave that made level 6 prisoners, Blackbeard and Shiryu bleed?
2. Garp
Very strong, would be promoted to Admiral, seems confident that he could kill Akainu.
3. Akainu
Unstoppable force and will.
4. Kizaru
His power is cheater, but he is too confused and a little absent mind.
5. Aokiji
His freezing ability reaches and unbelievable range. But he seems slow, in both literal and metaphoric means.
6. Smoker
Tough guy, but has big limitations compared to the Admirals.
7. Sentoumaru
Good skills and Haki ability.
8. Vice Admirals

Tashigi, Coby and Helmeppo are a bit weak. I would never put them in that list.

 

[tobeulp]

1.Garp
2.Sengoku
3.Admirals
4.VA
5.Pacifista ^^

@bittman
There is no way in hell that Akainu is stronger than Garp because Garp even said that he will kill Akainu but Sengoku stop him that proves that Garp can kill Akainu at ease and Sengoku knows that.

 

[Warlord90]

Pacifista aren't Marines. The WG manipulates them. Anyway, the strongest Marines are of course Garp and Sengoku. They have Haki, are super strong and are true heroes.

 

[bittman]

@bittman
There is no way in hell that Akainu is stronger than Garp because Garp even said that he will kill Akainu but Sengoku stop him that proves that Garp can kill Akainu at ease and Sengoku knows that.

Garp saying that he's going to kill someone means nothing. Luffy wanted to send Aokoji flying, he wasn't able to. I never got the impression Garp was confident he could kill Akainu, or that Sengoku was afraid Garp would actually do it. My interpretation of the events was something like:

1) Garp was pissed off that Akainu had killed his grandson. A reaction any less than wanting to kill the killer would be a joke to the emotional Garp.

2) He asked Sengoku to hold him down to stop him from killing Akainu. This isn't confidence he can kill Akainu, it's blind rage that he wants Sengoku to keep in check for him.

3) Sengoku held Garp down because a marine-on-marine battle, especially one between two of the strongest marines, would ruin the entire war. In that sort of confusion Whitebeard could escape, or Sengoku could lose more of his forces.

If Garp could kill Akainu that easily, then he is 3 levels above Whitebeard. If Sengoku was holding down Garp that easily, then he's three levels above Garp. (Neither of which makes sense, because that makes Sengoku >>>>>> Whitebeard) "Easily"/"ease"/"easy" are not words that should be used when comparing the strength of people in the top tier of One Piece. Whitebeard had tons of disadvantages, but was not easy to take down. By the same token, the admirals went up Whitebeard and he was unable to take any of them down for any long period (Akainu the closest to being defeated got back up a couple of minutes later).

Point is: really any fighter in the "top tier" when pit against another of that tier will not have an easy victory. Even Akainu vs Aokoji, where Akainu would have a clear elemental advantage, would most likely be a long battle that ends up very close.

 

[Roarchu]

I don't think Akainu was as strong or almost as strong as Whitebeard, im talking about old WB, not WB in his prime

Even though Akainu kept saying that he was fighting too wildly I think he was holding back. Whitebeard couldn't just randomly send earthquakes whatever way. He's not the kind of guy that would take out his own guys, he had to be careful not to take out his own. While Akainu didn't care if he killed some of his men in the process as long as he killed WB. That's a big advantage

Also, he got stabbed. That took a lot out of him. Akainu was almost totally fresh or whatever. He would've beaten (or at least kept up a long battle with) Akainu before he could further hurt him (and caused Marco and Jozu to get distracted). Seriously, if WB hadn't gotten stabbed by Squardo the marines would've gotten their butts seriously whooped.

...or at least we would've seen more Garp and Sengoku, maybe they would've just retreated after saving Ace. And the WG would look stupid and I would've liked that...just gotta wait until Luffy does it, I look forward to it, damn WG

 

[goldb]

Why are the Gorosei on that list ??? that's a bit strange. A lot of votes for Coby, but even After his brief display I'm gonna go with Sengoku.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Point is: really any fighter in the "top tier" when pit against another of that tier will not have an easy victory. Even Akainu vs Aokoji, where Akainu would have a clear elemental advantage, would most likely be a long battle that ends up very close.

I agree with what you've said with Garp and Akainu. Anyway, that does not mean no easy victory is possible among the strongest people. When someone's got a super destructive power, if he hits his enemy, he will finish him quickly. A monster's body is still flesh and bones, and a " human with an heart ", as Whitebeard said.
There are various examples : Magellan with the BB pirates, Whitebeard with John Giant, Aokiji with Jose, Akainu with Ace (and Jimbei)...

 

[bittman]

Hmm, out of all those battles I think there was always a non-top tier character in the battle.

When I'm talking TOP TIER, I'm talking people that are almost living legends due to their power. Whitebeard, Mihawk, Sengoku, Garp, 3 Admirals, Shanks, etc. These are people I class as "top tier".

BB Pirates (pre-Shiryuu + 4 ID + gura gura) = "high tier", but not top
Jozu = high, not top
John Giant = ??? (honestly didn't see enough of him, I'd expect high given he's a VA with some renown)
Ace = high, not top
Jimbei = high, not top

Now I'm not saying that any top tier will easily beat a high tier contender. Again I'm going to go with a pokemon analogy (liking them recently), and under the right conditions, an infernape (OU tier) can beat a Ho-Oh (Uber tier). However higher tiers usually have an advantage over the tiers below them, and the potential to OHKO, or at least be unfazed, by those in lower tiers.

Aokoji can OHKO people in a lower tier (Jozu), but still receive noticable damage and not have a relatively "easy" time with him. Similar thing applies across the board a bit.

What I'm saying is that "easy" victory rarely exists within the same tier, but may exist across tiers. No-one should claim that WB would have easily beaten Akainu if he didn't have a stab wound. Heck, I saw no-one else in this war get up after 1, let alone two quakes. John Giant was unable to return after 1, he cannot possibly be classed as top tier. Aokoji, Kizaru, Sengoku and Garp all would have been able to get up after one quake at least.

Whitebeard is like my new measuring stick...

 

[Dark God Zeus]

As far as destructive power goes......Akainu. Sengoku is a close 2nd though. And then Kizaru.

As far as pure 1 vs 1 strength. Has to be Sengoku.

 

[THM Nindo]

Why are the Gorosei on that list ??? that's a bit strange. A lot of votes for Coby, but even After his brief display I'm gonna go with Sengoku.

It all depends of which question you want to ask...
The question above is : who WILL be the strongest?

In that case, a lot of people would be thinking of Coby, since we know he will become admiral someday.

But right now, Coby is nowhere near that level.

 

[Fox666]

I don't think Akainu was as strong or almost as strong as Whitebeard, im talking about old WB, not WB in his prime

Even though Akainu kept saying that he was fighting too wildly I think he was holding back. Whitebeard couldn't just randomly send earthquakes whatever way. He's not the kind of guy that would take out his own guys, he had to be careful not to take out his own. While Akainu didn't care if he killed some of his men in the process as long as he killed WB. That's a big advantage

Also, he got stabbed. That took a lot out of him. Akainu was almost totally fresh or whatever. He would've beaten (or at least kept up a long battle with) Akainu before he could further hurt him (and caused Marco and Jozu to get distracted). Seriously, if WB hadn't gotten stabbed by Squardo the marines would've gotten their butts seriously whooped.

...or at least we would've seen more Garp and Sengoku, maybe they would've just retreated after saving Ace. And the WG would look stupid and I would've liked that...just gotta wait until Luffy does it, I look forward to it, damn WG

But you must remember that Akainu was not take down by Whitebeard, Akainu target was Ace/Luffy, and he succeeded in chasing while Whitebeard was trying to stop that. So the truth is that the Whitebeard stabbed by Squad was defeated twice by Akainu.

By the way, the Gura Gura no Mi has a good aiming. I think that if Whitebeard did not wanted to hurt his own men, he could easily do it without loosing combat power. The Gura Gura no Mi has it's limitations, it could not pass the siege wall, and as so it would probably not work on the Pacifistas...

 

[OdaForPresident]

I'm thinking that Ao Kiji will (at some point) replace Sengoku as the top marine. After that Coby will at some point take over. I don't think Smoker will become fleet admiral, he doesn't care about position, so long as it enables him to do what he wants. In that respect Smoker will be like Garp, become a vice-admiral and decline any futher promotion.

I really hope that Aikanu kicks the bucket sometime soon, I hate that guy. If he were to replace Sengoku, the marines would really become an evil organization (or extreme justice if you will). Remember that Aikanu was also the one who blew up the refugee ship at Ohara.

Admirals: The good (Ao Kiji), the bad (Aikanu), and the ugly (Kizaru).

 

[goldb]

I'm thinking that Ao Kiji will (at some point) replace Sengoku as the top marine. After that Coby will at some point take over. I don't think Smoker will become fleet admiral, he doesn't care about position, so long as it enables him to do what he wants. In that respect Smoker will be like Garp, become a vice-admiral and decline any futher promotion.

I really hope that Aikanu kicks the bucket sometime soon, I hate that guy. If he were to replace Sengoku, the marines would really become an evil organization (or extreme justice if you will). Remember that Aikanu was also the one who blew up the refugee ship at Ohara.

Admirals: The good (Ao Kiji), the bad (Aikanu), and the ugly (Kizaru).

I don't think the WG would allow for Aokiji to become Fleet Admiral should anything happen to Sengoku. Though I don't doubt that he would make a fine Fleet Admiral but I doubt he'd even want to take the position, he seems to laid back and goes off a lot, whereas being Fleet Admiral is a lot responsibility and requires others to know exactly where you are 24/7 so you can be reached in case of an emergency.

I think that position would go to Kizaru, Akainu is a bit reckeless, though his sense of justice seems to be a bit closer to Sengoku than the other 2 I think, I think the WG wouldn't give it to him because they'd fear what he'd do with the power and how he'd treat his subordinates, well we all know what he thinks of weaklings...

On topic now, I still stand by my decision that Sengoku is currently the strongest Marine, closely followed by Garp and the admirals in no particular order, otherwise he wouldn't be Fleet Admiral would he; he needs to be strong enough to handle his subordinate when needed.

 

[OdaForPresident]

Apparently the Gorosei seem to think that Aokiji is the strongest marine at marine hq: http://beta.onemanga.com/One_Piece/303/19/.

 

[Akainu]

No. That's a quite common misconception in One Piece. All the other admirals share the same description being "the strongest fighting force" go here for further reading