Thriller Bark Arc Discussion Thread

[Impel Down]

Re: Haunted Island Arc

Kokoro is a mermaid, because she's more humanoid than fish. Arlong is a fish man, because he is more fish than humanoid. But we're getting pretty off topic. So, I doubt this arc will be the end of Moria. The end of TB and the zombies, maybe, but not of the Mysterious Four, I don't think.

 

[Naelyan]

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Oh, thanks... About moria, I don't know... to get his shadow back, luffy will have to defeat oz, and I don't think it'll be settle as easily as throwing salt in his mouth, that'd be kinda boring... and we can assume oz must be stronger than moria, or there'd be no point in creating him...

His power must allow him to control the zombies, oz's probably on a rampage now cause he's just "born"... so when luffy'll defeat oz, cause he will, or that'd be the end of the serie, kinda hard to become the pirate king if you can't be under the sun at all, then wouldn't moria be kinda not strong enough to beat luffy...

Sure, he's a shichibukai, but he might be the weaker, you can't judge him only with his bounty, crocodile only had 70 millions yet I think he was way stronger than moria... so for all we know he earned his bounty by controlling very strong zombies that can't disobey him because of his power.

 

[Anti-panda]

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There are many different types of strength .. many many types. I doubt moria is weak as a fighter .. but I also don't think his physical ablity is the source of his true strength .. he just has alot of crew who lets face it most people can't deal with.
In my opinion he's the Don krieg of the shinchibukai .. he doesn't have alot of personal strength.. though he isn't weak by any stretch of the imagination... but he has a huge powerful crew and some devestating abilities.

 

[Naelyan]

Re: Haunted Island Arc

I agree, it's that point precisely that might be moria's true strength, relying on others stronger than him but who can't defy him because of his ability. Though, being a giant, he probably is quite strong, but physically, in a one-on-one fight, out of the shichibukai we've seen so far, i wouldn't bet on him.

 

[Impel Down]

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It's like Hitler's power of absolute control over a powerful army, Moria has, what appears to be, an ever-growing, supa strong army, which is probably his true power. And not all the super strong characters in OP get their power from physical power. You think Crocodile really needs muscle to take over Alabasta, or that Enel needs to bench press 240 to kill everyone in Skypiea?

 

[Naelyan]

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Well, comparing logia users to paramecias is a little unfair, I think you'll agree... most fight against them would be useless unless you have something to counter that power, but I agree, most of the fights on thriller bark will most likely be against the zombies that have mugiwaras shadows and the zombies commander, that would leave little time for a shichibukai, thus there's few explanation to me, or moria ain't that strong physically, or he'll just escape thriller bark and return later, but that'd still mean he wasn't strong enough to win...

 

[Impel Down]

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I'm saying that his true power lies in his DF, rather than his physical power, I'm not trying to compare them. And I agree, now most of the fights will be against zombies, except for maybe Absalom and Perona. Luffy may run into Moria after dealing with Oz, though.

And does anyone thing this arc is beginning to feel like the current Bleach arc?

 

[Naelyan]

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... not really... I don't see what you mean by that... there's no zombies in bleach... nobody stole their shadows, but I know it's not what you mean... this arc of one piece ain't a suicide mission either... I don't think we'll see any of the mugiwaras get much stronger, unlike bleach's characters... both are some kind of a rescue mission, but in one piece it's themselves they must save...

Do you mean because both arcs may be shorts?... cause if that so, then yes, it's possible, but in one piece I see this arc mostly as a recruitment arc, considering it's very likely brooke will join the crew...

 

[Anti-panda]

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The main difference between this and the current bleach arc is.. they are not rescuing a helpless person.. like orihime .. she never fights really. Brooke is just going through a process of recruitment... he never expected anyone to come save him... And please ... Brooke has been running around all by himself until recently... That and bleach is good but it's already repeating itself.. Lets go save rukia. yeah.... lets go save orihime. Yeah.... z.ZzzZZzzz
One piece is 100million times better and more origional than bleach.

 

[Yondy]

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I'll have to agree with anti-panda there. As much as i love Bleach, i don't think we can compare it with One Piece. I've always seen Bleach as being really repetitive.

And I don't see how this arc is similar to Bleach's current one... I mean they're rescuing their own shadows. And recruiting Brook maybe.

 

[Impel Down]

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I meant they were similar, as in they are both running around in a majorly-enemy infested territory, trying to find a few people, while running into the occasional battle. They both have their differences, I agree, since it isn't suicide and they can all probably defeat anyone they run into.

 

[Imitorar]

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The arc in One Piece that is the most like the Hueco Muendo arc of Bleach (the current arc) is the Enies Lobby arc. Actually, Enies Lobby is more like the Soul Society arc, but then again, the Soul Society arc and the Hueco Muendo arc are basically the same thing. (And neither of them ripped off of each other, the Soul Society arc came before Enies Lobby, but Oda-sensei has said, or at least implied, that he's had the whole story planned out the entire time.)

But anyway, my theory on how Luffy will get his shadow back is that he will trick Oz into eating salty meat. Come on, that would be using Oda-sensei's trait of foreshadowing, and that would elevate Oz's craving for meat from a mere joke to a joke and an important plot point. I know Gear 3rd Luffy vs. Oz sounds cool, but Moria IS a giant, so Gear 3rd Luffy vs. Moria shouldn't be that bad. And Jimbei is definitlely a bad guy, since Fishmen in general seem to think that humans are there for their entertainment, and anyone who could get along so well with Arlong as an equal can't be that great as a guy. And since he was a friend of Arlong, I don't think that Jimbei will be too pleased to meet the guy who broke Arlong's spine.

Yeah, exactly, but I still don't think Oda would make both a shadow logia and a darkness logia. He's not Kishi, he's a creative guy.

Hey, don't be mean, Naruto is an awesome series. Just not nearly as awesome as One Piece in any way whatsoever. And the fact is, a Devil Fruit that can control shadows and a Devil Fruit that can control darkness are different. Especially because, to me at least, Blackbeard's Devil Fruit doesn't really give him control of darkness, it basically turns him into a giant black hole. That isn't at all like a Devil Fruit that lets you control shadows. And this guy had some interesting ideas as to how Moria's Devil Fruit will work.

2. what kind of other uses will moria have from his DF other then removing shadows and attaching them to new bodies because as other people have said removing them is not a good combat ability i hope that there is nothing similar to shika's powers from naruto but i have a couple of ideas

A. He will be able to attack people's shadows and the will affect the physcial body as he must be able to touch shadows to be able to hold them as he transplants them into the new body

B. Now i dont know if any one remembers a cartoon show in the 90's cant remember the name of the show but the main bad guys where skeletons. Now one of the good guys had an abilite to move through shadows to other shadows now i was thinking maybe moria could have a power similar to this giving him the illusion of moving at tremendous speeds. I do however think that this the least likely of my ideas as its similar to bluno's (think thats the right name) power and we know oda doesnt like to repeat himself

C. That his own shadow may be able to attack people as a seperate entity so that it would be like fighting 2 morias at the same time i think that this one could be really cool and a nice suprise half way through the fight has to fight 2 morias insted of 1

Sorry for the really long post but i thought of theese and i just thought that i should write them down before i forget about them

 

[Anti-panda]

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Wow ... I love how all the idiots ... are saying this arc is soo... like the current bleach arc... Because they both involve people fighting .. people. WOW.
I don't really understand why people feel the need to say this manga is like this manga or whatever.... the big difference between this arc in OP and bleach... is that bleach never really surprises me... I can tell where things are gonna happen and there's no real suspense... OP constantly surprises me.

Long story short... All anime can be compared to any other anime if you want to be litteral .. so stop being stupid and enjoy. Or at least give some solid evidence that the two things are more than just basically the same genre.

 

[mugen]

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whoever compared bleach should crawl under a rock and stay there...
anyways seems like Brooke might actually join but i have a feeling that he won't cuz Eiichiro seems to agree that a skeleton is weird, he might do something about it or not anyways this arc just seems to be best cuz well it was really unexpected, Nobody really thought it would be an Arc and it also gave more to Laboon not just making it sort of filler as it was thought to be.

 

[Luckas]

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Moderator Notice:
Please guys cool down a little the tone about the comparison between OP and Bleach.~ Luckas

Said that, I believe really few people doesn't agree that the Hueco Mundo isn't the best Bleach arc, while Haunted Island arc is a good one, even if maybe someone isn't much fond of it.
However it is just a pity that OP will take a break when the battle seem so near. I'm really expecting it

 

[Yondy]

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Luckas, when is OP taking a break? Don't tell me there are some holidays and we won't have any OP this week...? I'm a bit lost here!

I really want to see the battle too, i can't stand to wait more!

Moderator Notice:
I'm sorry but in the next Shonen Jump there will not be a OP chapter. I believe it is one of those break sometimes mangaka took, they generally last only a week.~ Luckas

 

[Impel Down]

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Wait, there's no OP this week?

But anyway, I think everyone misunderstood what I meant in my comparison of OP and Bleach. I was comparing THE ARCS, not the entire series itself. They're both running around enemy territory, looking for certain people. Looking back, that is a pretty lame assessment, but it got kinda blown out of proportions.

 

[IgnorantSage]

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I think it was already announced in the Edited Manga thread that there will be no OP this week...

Anyway back to the arc, I hope Cerberus makes a reappearance but I guess we can only ask for one new nakama and between Cerberus and Brooke, I'd pick... ummm... I'd pick... the two of them!!!

 

[Impel Down]

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If Cerebus joins, I may have to smack Oda. But I quess he could come back, but I don't really see what role he could play, since they're already at the mansion and such, so they wouldn't really need a ride. And if it's a matter of picking up scent, that's what Chopper's for, right?

 

[IgnorantSage]

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It would be great to have an official Mugiwara pet and rid Chopper of the title. Though as of the current arc, I can't see any purpose Cerberus might serve. But maybe Cerberus could help keep off the other zombies, but the chances of him disobeying Moria's orders are slim.

Discussing Cerberus also made me wonder what shadows they used to reanimate dead animal bodies. Like Tallaran for example, did they use human/humanoid shadow to reanimate that enormous spider since he could talk.