Hangout Tournament Hangout Thread

[Kiki]

The badges are here!!!

Best Debater: grey matter

Most Active Users:

1st: Orphan Prince

The Black Dragon of Apocalypse - Acnologia

2nd: grey matter

The Fire Dragon God - Ignia

3rd: Ronin31

The Moon Dragon God - Selene

Congratulations to the winners!!! (I want those badges tch) just kidding

Thank you everyone who participated in the tournament!!! ​

 

[Kiki]

group b....

august bests selene. interesting.

group a has more voters than b. I wonder why there's always difference

 

[Orphan Prince]

august bests selene. interesting.

Very interesting. I was expecting her to get top spot in that round.

 

[Ronin31]

Very interesting. I was expecting her to get top spot in that round.

She normally would have....

 

[Kiki]

group C & D are up!

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

How tf Wendy got more votes than Mira?

 

[WoWfan]

How tf Wendy got more votes than Mira?

Well she fought people stronger than Mira.

 

[Darklord#10]

Once upon a time gray was the strongest character in fairy tail at one point tho..... but now he's losing to Lucy and Wendy and is struggling against a weakened Mira and elfman. He wasn't even a challenger in his group, group c, iirc

 

[Orphan Prince]

Once upon a time gray was the strongest character in fairy tail at one point tho.

When?

 

[Darklord#10]

When?

Tataros arc

 

[Zelefomavis]

Tataros arc

He was not the strongest, he was only the most apt at fighting demons.

That's like saying Wendy was stronger than Mira during the Eclipse Dragon arc because she did more dammage than Mira to Zirconis. When it's clear she only recently surpassed Mira

 

[Darklord#10]

He was not the strongest, he was only the most apt at fighting demons.

That's like saying Wendy was stronger than Mira during the Eclipse Dragon arc because she did more dammage than Mira to Zirconis. When it's clear she only recently surpassed Mira

No he was the strongest at the moment. He one shoted mard geer. He would have clapped kyoka

 

[Zelefomavis]

No he was the strongest at the moment. He one shoted mard geer. He would have clapped kyoka

Yes because he was a demon slayer.
He still would have gotten clapped by a healthy Laxus.
The same way Wendy could deal dammage to dragons whereas Jura's attack had no effect.

It's the slayer advantage

 

[grey matter]

He was not the strongest, he was only the most apt at fighting demons.

That's like saying Wendy was stronger than Mira during the Eclipse Dragon arc because she did more dammage than Mira to Zirconis. When it's clear she only recently surpassed Mira

Natsu couldn't even follow Gray's cast speed in Tartarus arc.
Maybe that is because of Silver's powers, but still. He had a similar moment that LFD Natsu had in Tenrou arc

Gray was probably the strongest member of FT in that arc, apart from DF Natsu

Gray was also one of the strongest FT members in Alverez arc, though that is attributed to his "darkness" mode.
He stalemated partial END, who in a less demonized (i.e weaker) form, overpowered Dimaria's timestop and no diff'd her. Gray also stomped Invel without even going into curse mark mode, while Invel previously comfortably dealt with Gray in his DeS mode.

In before "that is because of slayer advantage". Gray was on par with END in all stats. Strength, speed, attack power etc.
If he could one shot Mard with a clean blow, when Mard was leagues ahead of him back then. While END was tanking hits from him, while being relative in stats. That means the slayer advantage wasn't applicable against END, to anywhere near the potency it was against Tartarus members, that is possibly because Natsu was still mostly human and in process of transformation (though most probable answer is that Mashima didn't think too much lol)

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Point being, Gray was a real force back in Tartarus/Alverez days. He was treated with respect, truly worthy of being Natsu's rival, in the main series.

This is reflected in how majority of the people saw him back then. Look up the "FT strongest character" lists and videos during the arc, Gray was consistently put alongside Laxus and Jellal, maybe even higher.


In contrast, he is treated like dirt in the spinoff. Even worse than side characters.

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu couldn't even follow Gray's cast speed in Tartarus arc.
Maybe that is because of Silver's powers, but still. He had a similar moment that LFD Natsu had in Tenrou arc

Gray was probably the strongest member of FT in that arc, apart from DF Natsu

Gray was also one of the strongest FT members in Alverez arc, though that is attributed to his "darkness" mode.
He stalemated partial END, who in a less demonized (i.e weaker) form, overpowered Dimaria's timestop and no diff'd her. Gray also stomped Invel without even going into curse mark mode, while Invel previously comfortably dealt with Gray in his DeS mode.

In before "that is because of slayer advantage". Gray was on par with END in all stats. Strength, speed, attack power etc.
If he could one shot Mard with a clean blow, when Mard was leagues ahead of him back then. While END was tanking hits from him, while being relative in stats. That means the slayer advantage wasn't applicable against END, to anywhere near the potency it was against Tartarus members, that is possibly because Natsu was still mostly human and in process of transformation (though most probable answer is that Mashima didn't think too much lol)

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Point being, Gray was a real force back in Tartarus/Alverez days. He was treated with respect, truly worthy of being Natsu's rival, in the main series.

This is reflected in how majority of the people saw him back then. Look up the "FT strongest character" lists and videos during the arc, Gray was consistently put alongside Laxus and Jellal, maybe even higher.


In contrast, he is treated like dirt in the spinoff. Even worse than side characters.

It was so humiliating how he was struggling against Mira and she was weakened. That's just something I don't see natsu doing natsu will pretty much job in that fight. I even feel that natsu was jobbing against gajeel. And also when gray got saved by brandish someone who admitted that base natsu was stronger than her in x792

 

[Zelefomavis]

Natsu couldn't even follow Gray's cast speed in Tartarus arc.
Maybe that is because of Silver's powers, but still. He had a similar moment that LFD Natsu had in Tenrou arc

Gray was probably the strongest member of FT in that arc, apart from DF Natsu

Gray was also one of the strongest FT members in Alverez arc, though that is attributed to his "darkness" mode.
He stalemated partial END, who in a less demonized (i.e weaker) form, overpowered Dimaria's timestop and no diff'd her. Gray also stomped Invel without even going into curse mark mode, while Invel previously comfortably dealt with Gray in his DeS mode.

In before "that is because of slayer advantage". Gray was on par with END in all stats. Strength, speed, attack power etc.
If he could one shot Mard with a clean blow, when Mard was leagues ahead of him back then. While END was tanking hits from him, while being relative in stats. That means the slayer advantage wasn't applicable against END, to anywhere near the potency it was against Tartarus members, that is possibly because Natsu was still mostly human and in process of transformation (though most probable answer is that Mashima didn't think too much lol)

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Point being, Gray was a real force back in Tartarus/Alverez days. He was treated with respect, truly worthy of being Natsu's rival, in the main series.

This is reflected in how majority of the people saw him back then. Look up the "FT strongest character" lists and videos during the arc, Gray was consistently put alongside Laxus and Jellal, maybe even higher.


In contrast, he is treated like dirt in the spinoff. Even worse than side characters.

I just reread Mard Geer's fight and Gray wasn't that impressive. His casting speed was indeed Silver, instead of Ice make casting he just froze stuff which is what surprised Natsu.

Except for the slayer advantage, base Natsu and Gray were shown to be pretty much on par during that fight.

Gray did well in Alvarez just when he was full high on POF and the feat of POF Erza at the same time were much more impressive to me imo.


Though I do fully agree with you that Gray is being shitted on in the sequel, his portrayal was indeed much more impressive in the OG work.

I just never bought into the hype that he was standing next to the likes of Jellal and Laxus and I guess Mashima wanted to rectify that in the sequel.

 

[Darklord#10]

Yes because he was a demon slayer.
He still would have gotten clapped by a healthy Laxus.
The same way Wendy could deal dammage to dragons whereas Jura's attack had no effect.

It's the slayer advantage

Get clapped? You're joking. Gray was black air force energy the moment he got that Ds mark even gajeel said it. Gray would absolutely beat everyone there 1v1 including natsu (without dragon force and maybe LFD). Didn't he one shot tempesta, he would have one shot kyoka or the other nine demon gates. He was also able to tag demon form mard geer

 

[Kiki]

Group C&D results

Group C​

Acnologia (Human Form)	28​	advances!
Dogramag (Human Form)	22​	advances!
Erza Scarlet	22​	advances!
Kirin	17​	advances!
Jellal Fernandes	15​	advances!
Larcade	7​
Sting Eucliffe	3​
Madmole	1​

Group D​

Gildarts Clive	26​	advances!
Ignia (Human Form)	25​	advances!
Irene Belserion	25​	advances!
Suzaku	16​	advances!
Brandish μ	8​	advances!
Gajeel Redfox	2​
Kiria	1​
Skullion Raider	0​

 

[Zelefomavis]

Gildarts got more vote than Ignia ?


Queen Brandish made the cut


Edit : Standing ovation for Skullion, the first candidate to have 0 votes.
So much for Gray's rival in the 100YQ that he didn't even get to have a rematch against because Mashima probably think he still doesn't stand a chance x)

 

[Kiki]

Gildarts got more vote than Ignia ?


Queen Brandish made the cut


Edit : Standing ovation for Skullion, the first candidate to have 0 votes.
So much for Gray's rival in the 100YQ that he didn't even get to have a rematch against because Mashima probably think he still doesn't stand a chance x)

after august&selene, now gildarts&ignia.............

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Gildarts got more votes than Ignia??? Like wtf