Discussion U-17 Match-Ups. Place your bets!

[KuwabaraTheMan]

This...

and on top of that he can copy moves but you saw he needs experience

Mr. Inoe compared Jirou to John McEnroe known for his excellent touch (which is natural) at net i don't think Kabaji could copy someones naturally soft hands (needed for finesse volleys and drop volleys)

And if my theory about the first chapter is correct then Jirou is the winner

If he could copy Tezuka Zone in a couple of minutes, I really don't think that Jirou's techniques will pose him that much of an issue. Especially since he's seen Jirou play a number of times before.

I just doubt Jirou has the high level of stamina and skill needed to keep up with Kabaji. He might be able to take a couple of games from him, but it's doubtful that he could last that long against him.

 

[Dansan1]

If Atobe's theory is right, that'd be nice, as originally Jirou was my favorite character, until he basically disappeared. I love his personality and his tennis is the closest to the real life tennis style I like watching best.

I just don't have the feeling that he'd be able to manage that kind of soft gentle touch against Kabaji's raw strength (for some reason I picture Lendl v McEnroe), but then again, that is real world thinking and this is manga.

So I say go Jirou!!

 

[Atobe the king]

If he could copy Tezuka Zone in a couple of minutes, I really don't think that Jirou's techniques will pose him that much of an issue. Especially since he's seen Jirou play a number of times before.

I just doubt Jirou has the high level of stamina and skill needed to keep up with Kabaji. He might be able to take a couple of games from him, but it's doubtful that he could last that long against him.

True but Tezuka zone is putting ridiculous amount of spin

having touch is different, can't copy touch. It's like Atobe's/Momo's insight, Fuji's ability to read the wind or Ryoma being ambidextrous you can't (in theory) copy that

We don't know what Jirou can do because he was godstomped by a semi serious Fuji (he wanted to avenge Yuuta) there's a reason he was in singles 2 and was regarded as one of their best players

 

[Neru]

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto: Oshitari - Gakuto is to simple minded to beat Oshitari.
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu: Niou - After his match with Fuji... obviously...
3. Oishi vs. Eiji: Eiji - I figure Eiji is the better singles player...
4. Kamio vs. Shinji: Shinji
5. Krauser vs. Richard: Krauser
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada: Sanada - Just a hunch. Logically Yukimura should win, but who needs logic?
7. Shishido vs. Ootori: Ootori - I think the big serve will come through...
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji: Fuji - Unless Fuji decides to choke down to Yuutas level, thers no way Yuuta can win.
9. Kai vs. Kite: Kite
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi: Atobe - There is no Gekokujo for Hiyoshi here...
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh: Tezuka - Funny match up...
12. Shiraishi vs. ?: Shiraishi - I figure there no one left good enough to beat Shiraishi...
13. Jackal vs. Bunta: Bunta - Volley wins...
14. Koharu vs. ?
15. Echizen vs. ?: Echizen - ... Doesn't really matter who he faces...
16. Inui vs. Mizuki: Inui - Mizuki data sucks anyway...
17. Akutsu vs. Taka: Akutsu
18. Kirihara vs. Renji: Kirihara - Blood...
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose: Kintarou -
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki: Tachibana
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou: Jirou -Kabaji can't win... Simple as it is...
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi: Tanishi
23. David vs. Kurobane: Davide
24. Rin vs. ? Rin
25. Sengoku vs ? Sengoku

 

[alexlw92]

is is echizen vs. momo? i dont see momo anywhere on the list. unless hes hurt?

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu
3. Oishi vs. Eiji
4. Kamio vs. Shinji
5. Krauser vs. Richard
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada
7. Shishido vs. Ootori
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji
9. Kai vs. Kite
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh
12. Shiraishi vs. ?
13. Jackal vs. Bunta
14. Koharu vs. ?
15. Echizen vs. ?
16. Inui vs. Mizuki
17. Akutsu vs. Taka
18. Kirihara vs. Renji
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi
23. David vs. Kurobane
24. Rin vs. ?
25. Sengoku vs ?

yes, it looks like i chose everyone thats first. but i just like them all better ^3^

 

[endless_dream]

Hmm, here are my thoughts on who's going to win...

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu
3. Oishi vs. Eiji
4. Kamio vs. Shinji
5. Krauser vs. Richard
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada
7. Shishido vs. Ootori
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji
9. Kai vs. Kite
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh
12. Shiraishi vs. ?
13. Jackal vs. Bunta
14. Koharu vs. ?
15. Echizen vs. ?
16. Inui vs. Mizuki
17. Akutsu vs. Taka
18. Kirihara vs. Renji
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi
23. David vs. Kurobane
24. Rin vs. ?
25. Sengoku vs ?

When it comes Yuuta vs. Fuji, i kinda felt Yuuta would win at first...since maybe Fuji would go easy on his little brother...come to think of it, Yuuta would definitely not enjoy winning if his brother held back...So, my bet is that Fuji will win.

As for Kabaji vs. Jirou, I felt that Jirou should win, his techniques requires flexible wrists...I'm guessing that Jirou would win the first 1 or 2 games then Kabaji would catch up with him. Then again, I think that Kabaji's wrists are not that flexible enough and if he ever damage his wrists before the match ends, Jirou can definitely win...

Umm...this is going to be Off-topic but concerning the OVA that is coming out on 26th May, there are some info on this on their official website...
http://www.tenipuri.jp/dvd04/01.html

Spoiler

I'm not too sure about this but for the first OVA ep, it's about Seigaku's trip to Osaka...Shitenhouji and Higa Chuu are also in this ep...if i'm not wrong, there are also mixed doubles matches between Seigaku and Shitenhouji...Something about Fuji, Shiraishi, Taka-san Ishida,Tezuka and Kin-chan... (I don't really understand this bit in their official website...)
There are also some screenshots...and looks like Ryoga is also appearing in this ep too..

 

[Master OZ]

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto - Oshitari - because he is a fellow glassesman
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu - Niou - a.k.a. bunch-of-strong-guys
3. Oishi vs. Eiji - Eiji - because I can´t find a way how Oishi would win
4. Kamio vs. Shinji - Kamio - because it´s unknown to me whether Shinji has beastlike aura or not / in that case Shinji would win/
5. Krauser vs. Richard - Krauser
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada - Yukimura - in reality I don´t care that much who wins, if i can see their match
7. Shishido vs. Ootori - Ootori - because I want him to
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji - Fuji Syuusuke / shouldn´t there be Syuusuke vs. Yuuta - because both of them are Fuji, right?/
9. Kai vs. Kite - Kite - he is Kai´s captain for a reason
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi - Atobe - because Hiyoshi is dull and has low stamina
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh - Tezuka - seriously I´d like to see how far Kaidou will go against him
12. Shiraishi vs. ? - Shiraishi - because he is on a cover of SPoT
13. Jackal vs. Bunta - Bunta - because his play never bores me
14. Koharu vs. ? - hard to say yet
15. Echizen vs. ? - Echizen - because I can hardly see from remaining players who could win against him
16. Inui vs. Mizuki - Mizuki - waterfall won´t work on somebody who has Water in his name /am I right about this?/
17. Akutsu vs. Taka - Akutsu - because Taka will be unable to go into full BURNING! mode
18. Kirihara vs. Renji - Kirihara - because he just has to rise above Renji´s data on him / next level of demon / Muga perhaps? /
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose - Kintarou - because I haven´t seen Chitose fired up
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki - Tachibana - because it will be Tachibana´s turn to shine in this series
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou - Jirou - because Atobe won´t be nearby for Kabaji
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi - Tanishi
23. David vs. Kurobane - David - because I don´t want the puns to go away
24. Rin vs. ? - can´t say yet
25. Sengoku vs ? - still not enough information

 

[DavenSodan]

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto Oshitari
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu Yagyuu because we didnt see him in a while
3. Oishi vs. Eiji Eiji because he lost back then
4. Kamio vs. Shinji Kamio, his Sonic Bullet should beat the Spot
5. Krauser vs. Richard Krauser because of his german last name but really because the other one is even more unimportant
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada Yuki, he can return every element Sanada has and make him lose his senses... and frankly Sanada will not reach PoP because of his attitude and it would suck if that would change
7. Shishido vs. Ootori Ootori he is the younger one and has an unreturnable serve
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji of course Fuji even though Yuuta may show much improvement but will lose like 1-6
9. Kai vs. Kite Kite, everything Kai has is also in Kites arsenal and better at that
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi Atobe...
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh Tezuka, Tornado doesnt matter against the Zone or Phantom
12. Shiraishi vs. ? Shiraishi with Tezuka, Fuji, Echizen, Yuki and Sanada out of the picture he will win for sure
13. Jackal vs. Bunta Jackal if he gets the Boomerang Snake like in the Anime...
14. Koharu vs. ? who?
15. Echizen vs. ? dumb match up... :-D Echizen
16. Inui vs. Mizuki Inui of course, Mizuki doesnt even belong there...
17. Akutsu vs. Taka Akutsu, his power should be enough to return Hadyouken
18. Kirihara vs. Renji Renji he just knows how to control Akaya
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose Kin-chan, even if Chitose can predict that the rally can be won with the 1002th shot he will be exhausted way to soon...
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki Tachibana, who is the other guy??
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou Kabaji will lose the same way as always...
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi Tanishi in the Tie-Break
23. David vs. Kurobane David, because he is the funny one
24. Rin vs. ? who?
25. Sengoku vs ? Sengoku, no one left dangerous enough

 

[lasenorita]

I see FET pulled the images. It' not surprising — 400+ page views (not to mention refreshes) will strain anyone's bandwidth. It's kinda sad because we can't visit their biography page to match names to faces anymore. Perhaps you could edit your post and remove the links to the images, Fayte? ;_;

 

[Atobe the king]

Aww...the topic is slightly less pretty now

 

[Fayte]

People always need to bring up the dead FET. Just let that site stay dead.

 

[Bowser]

1. Oshitari vs. Gakuto: Oshitari is Hyoutei's Genius right?
2. Niou vs. Yagyuu: Niou to win
3. Oishi vs. Eiji: He is better than Oishi at singles.
4. Kamio vs. Shinji: Kamio.
5. Krauser vs. Richard: Krauser will win.
6. Yukimura vs. Sanada: Im saying Yuki but maybe Sanada will come up with something to win somehow?
7. Shishido vs. Ootori:I think Shishido can return Ootori's Neo Scud since they play each other often and Shishido has the Rising Counter.
8. Yuuta vs. Fuji: Fuji will win but maybe yuuta may be able to counter 1 of Fuji's counter.
9. Kai vs. Kite: Kite with his awesome cheating skills+Shukuchi
10. Atobe vs. Hiyoshi: No comment.
11. Tezuka vs. Kaidoh: Tezuka will win easily.
12. Shiraishi vs. ?: Refined tennis w00t!
13. Jackal vs. Bunta
14. Koharu vs. ? :
15. Echizen vs. ?: Probably Momo, and Momo will use Black Jack Knife (surprising Oni), killing Echizen's wrist but Ryoma will still win.
16. Inui vs. Mizuki: Inui has better data, and more experience + Waterfall.
17. Akutsu vs. Taka: Akutsu will win but praises Taka maybe?
18. Kirihara vs. Renji: Renji is one of Rikkai's 3 demon but I wouldnt be surprised if he lost.
19. Kin-chan vs. Chitose: Kin chan with his amazing stamina and will probably break Chitose's Muga+Saikikanpatsu no Kiwami
20. Tachibana vs. Kadowaki: If Shinji can beat him, then Tachibana will definately win - 6-0.
21. Kabaji vs. Jirou: Jirou will win! .
22. Chinen vs. Tanishi: The Big Bang hehe
23. David vs. Kurobane: His jokes will put Kurobane off.
24. Rin vs. ?
25. Sengoku vs ?: Lucky Sengoku will win.

 

[Fayte]

Updated again.

I'm glad Konomi answered match requests.

Added Bowser.

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Anyway, lets start talking about a matchup.

 

[Dansan1]

How about one of the lesser ones?

What are some people's thoughts on Inui v Mizuki? I see that one is tied pretty close even though I thought that one would be a blow out in the votes.

 

[Oni_James]

i vote for:

1. Oshitari
2. Niou
3. Eiji
4. Kamio
5. Krauser
6. Sanada
7. Ootori
8. Fuji
9. Kite
10. Atobe
11. Tezuka
12. Shiraishi
13. Bunta
14. Koharu
15. Echizen
16. Inui
17. Akutsu
18. Kirihara
19. Kin-chan
20. Tachibana
21. Jirou
22. Tanishi
23. David
24. Rin
25. Sengoku

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

How about one of the lesser ones?

What are some people's thoughts on Inui v Mizuki? I see that one is tied pretty close even though I thought that one would be a blow out in the votes.

I see Mizuki having a very good shot.

The fact is that Fuji was just a terrible match up for him, being someone who is impossible to get data on. Inui shouldn't give him as much of an issue. I see it being a close match, but Mizuki's data is a little more reliable than Inui's.

 

[Fayte]

I agree. I think Mizuki could take him. He has the skill and the brain. Like Hinata Fan said, Fuji was a bad match up.

 

[Dansan1]

I assumed no one liked or gave Mizuki a second thought. I guess he's got a chance.

We know he's got a brain, we don't know much of anything of his technical skill.

For instance Inui beat Renjii and I don't think Mizuki would even come close to anything resembling having a chance at beating Renjii(from a purely physical and technical standpoint). But that's just me. I'd love to see the match.

Interesting that they chose each other to a partner when they thought it was doubles.

 

[Neru]

Interesting that they chose each other to a partner when they thought it was doubles.

Actually, I thought about this too. Why would they choose someone from a different team? I think, at least, that they both came to the same conclusion quickly. Which was that the pairings was not for doubles, but for singles.

Everyone seem quick to pick someone they're comfortable with. Then things goes from comfortable to uncomfortable when you're forced to eliminate your friend in order to proceed. Thus, the whole mental issue.

Of course, they avoided this by choosing someone they don't care about. And since they both thought the same, they found each other.

Well, this makes no sense since they're both data players who rely on statistic. They should pick someone they know everything about, like someone from their team.

Makes me wondering why Tezuka is paired up with Kaidou, or Atobe with Hiyoshi. Someone they both could easily flush, and we've actually never seen them converse or been especially friendly with each other. Maybe they realized too? If thats the case, then thats very cold of them ( I can imagine Atobe not caring, but Tezuka? lol. )

 

[Fayte]

I assumed no one liked or gave Mizuki a second thought. I guess he's got a chance.

We know he's got a brain, we don't know much of anything of his technical skill.

For instance Inui beat Renjii and I don't think Mizuki would even come close to anything resembling having a chance at beating Renjii(from a purely physical and technical standpoint). But that's just me. I'd love to see the match.

Interesting that they chose each other to a partner when they thought it was doubles.

Please understand that the fact Inui beat Renji tells us nothing about Inui being better against another player.

Inui was the only person on Seigaku capable of beating Renji. Fuji would have lost, Tezuka wasn't there, Echizen was needed to play Sanada, and nobody else is good enough. Inui HAD TO win for Seigaku to win. (Which in my opinion, Rikkai should have lost the Kantou finals)

Inui beat Renji simply because he knew him through and through on a personal level. Nobody else has that. Therefore you can't say "So and so can beat Renji, because Inui did." It doesn't work that way.

Actually, I thought about this too. Why would they choose someone from a different team?

Akutsu picked Taka, because Taka is his best friend. That leaves Sengoku to pick someone from another team.

Fuji picked Yuuta, because it's his brother. That leaves Tezuka to pick someone else.

Renji picked Kirihara, that left Inui to pick someone else. (Although that would be an awesome pair)

etc.