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So to beat Nico you need to destroy his lab. His wife didn't seem pregnant in that flashback. I guess those were the first days.
 

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So to beat Nico you need to destroy his lab. His wife didn't seem pregnant in that flashback. I guess those were the first days.
Andy noticed Nico was shaken by his conventional memories that were triggered when a part of the lab was hit by stray fire. All of the abilities and weaknesses in this series are very consistent in their themes. Everyone's strength is also used as their weakness and vice versa.
 

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He found Fuuko at last. I doubt Nico is going to die here, both will probably be saved.
 

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He found Fuuko at last. I doubt Nico is going to die here, both will probably be saved.
Nah, this Nico's dead. I want to say that Andy & Fuuko are going to immediately ride the arc and loop, but they've got Unruin + Seal to deal with first.
 

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Billy's probably the only one who can beat Unruin with his millions of negators abilities.
 

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Billy's probably the only one who can beat Unruin with his millions of negators abilities.
Prediction: Billy doesn't beat Unruin, but is able to score a pyrrhic victory by holding off Unruin + Seal long enough for Andy & Fuuko to make it to Ark. I have to say Unruin's abilities are still very poorly understood. Shadow, blood, an eye in his hand, monster claws...whatever interpretation of "ruin" that he negates, it's a unique one.
 

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Prediction: Billy doesn't beat Unruin, but is able to score a pyrrhic victory by holding off Unruin + Seal long enough for Andy & Fuuko to make it to Ark. I have to say Unruin's abilities are still very poorly understood. Shadow, blood, an eye in his hand, monster claws...whatever interpretation of "ruin" that he negates, it's a unique one.
He said "Three on three". It sounded like he's not fighting alone, but together with the blood and shadow umas (hence the eyes on his hand and clothes).
 

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He said "Three on three". It sounded like he's not fighting alone, but together with the blood and shadow umas (hence the eyes on his hand and clothes).
Taking UMAs into itself is more Seal's thing. While not confirmed I'd suspect that Unruin's abilities aren't in that vein.
 

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Taking UMAs into itself is more Seal's thing. While not confirmed I'd suspect that Unruin's abilities aren't in that vein.
I didn't mean to say he's taken umas into himself, as his abilities are something else that relates to his regeneration. Those two umas are more like Clothes working with Andy.
 

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So if Negators don't hate Billy he can't use their abilities.

Then maybe he'll be able to use Unruin's in this fight?
 

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So if Negators don't hate Billy he can't use their abilities.

Then maybe he'll be able to use Unruin's in this fight?
He already has - used Unruin's regeneration to grow his arm back on last page.
 

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Unruin is being overwhelmed.

Apparently there will be an anime announcement soon.
Hope we get a Demon Slayer/JJK effect !! This manga deserves it !
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So in the 1800s Juiz shoved the artifact remember in Victor's face and that's how Andy came to be and why he didn't know who he was/where he came from (tho since they can talk inside their heads Victor must have explained things to him ???) I just don't understand why Andy didn't let Victor out since he hated life so much, all he had to do was remove the card to stop existing (so die in some way).
Also Andy wants to die at all costs but is that also Victor's wish ?
 

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Hope we get a Demon Slayer/JJK effect !! This manga deserves it !
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So in the 1800s Juiz shoved the artifact remember in Victor's face and that's how Andy came to be and why he didn't know who he was/where he came from (tho since they can talk inside their heads Victor must have explained things to him ???) I just don't understand why Andy didn't let Victor out since he hated life so much, all he had to do was remove the card to stop existing (so die in some way).
Also Andy wants to die at all costs but is that also Victor's wish ?
If I had to guess it would be that Victor either plateaued and they needed to try a new "person" with Undead (but that's impossible). That being said, to be honest Undead x Unluck is so unpredictable in its writing that I can't possibly guess why they chose to wipe Victor.

I'm guessing that Remember is an artifact that can be used to restore someone's memories of their previous incarnations. That would be the way to "save everyone" so to speak.
 

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Wow, Juiz is old :o.

Hope we get a Demon Slayer/JJK effect !! This manga deserves it !
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So in the 1800s Juiz shoved the artifact remember in Victor's face and that's how Andy came to be and why he didn't know who he was/where he came from (tho since they can talk inside their heads Victor must have explained things to him ???) I just don't understand why Andy didn't let Victor out since he hated life so much, all he had to do was remove the card to stop existing (so die in some way).
Also Andy wants to die at all costs but is that also Victor's wish ?
Maybe Victor needed some time to reawaken. He said he spent more than 2 billion years inactive in this chapter.
 

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So it sounds like I was right. When I heard Winter's reward artifact was Remember, I thought it would be very important. But they did not capture it so, huh. Or was it Remember? I can't remember! Oh what a loop that is.

Maybe there is only one Remember if it goes with the loop. Or else maybe the 4 Seasons were brought in earlier in a previous loop.

Now I'm thinking that maybe Andy is the original Victor, and maybe his memories of becoming Undead are actually the REAL ones, whereas he has had all the lifetime of surviving previous loops sealed off, and those are Victor's memories. However, that does not add up with what is shown on-panel, and I'm pretty sure Victor states he is the original. He also looks very young in those panels with Juiz in the Jurassic period, but is clearly older later on in the current timeline... hmm...

It seems we may indeed be headed for a big twist in the romance. To save everyone else, Andy may have to disappear. I have strongly suspected so far that Victor will be the one waiting for Fuuko when she wakes up in the new world. Perhaps that is what Juiz hopes to avoid, by having her and Andy go in the Ark and so preserve Artifact Remember. It surely would be destroyed if Andy stayed until Ragnarock.

Now, the question is, if use of Remember hurts Andy in any way, and Fuuko refuses, will she use her Unjustice one more time to have her way? She's not been using the helmet for a while now, so it meant something for them to react like they did. At any rate, I view Victor's chance for Romance with Fuuko a must-have. Because she will never kill them both until she loves both parts of the same man. Like it or not, Victor is still the same person, just a different aspect of who he is, and who he would become after going through all that happened.

Another theory I now hold dear: God incarnates himself in the next loop, which is wildly more fantasy-based than the previous one, with certain laws added early, like the 4 seasons, and maybe with stuff like talking dinosaurs, because it is the "last" loop. It may as well be a grand finale fun, different from before. God will meet Fuuko and probably look like a typical shounen hero, as opposed to Andy's more mature appearance (he honestly doesn't look that bad now. In the beginning he definitely had a zombie vibe going, which I'm glad was dropped. Now he just has moments of carnage before regenerating).

Then we will have the big theme of the story, Fuuko teaching God about life on his earth. It PERFECTLY fits with what this chapter just talked about, and I'd had the idea in mind for a while, since several chapters ago. There's hope for such a twist yet!
 

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taht Fuuko should travel is a good thing. She may be Unluck but she is the bringer of hope to a new generation. That card Remember though? I hope it allows new Loop versions of the Union to gain all the memories of the previous loop. That would really be a great middle finger to God.
 

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When you think about it Andy is kinda like Victor and Juiz's kid :lmao.
 
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