Shounen Undead Unluck

[Nie Li]

d. someone mention that anno un mean, YEAR 1,, its that true?? if that the case anno un will not comeback in year 2 of our timeline (fuuko's timeline)

"Anno Uno" means "Year 1" in Latin and Italian. He's missing the "o" but it's close enough.

 

[Discomusic]

"Anno Uno" means "Year 1" in Latin and Italian. He's missing the "o" but it's close enough.

We remove the extra vocal on the articles when it precedes a noun that starts with another vocal. So "Un Anno" is grammatically correct and means "An year" more than "Year one".
Of course, there's the possiblity that the author doesn't know that and still wanted to mean "Year one" with a stylish adaptation.

 

[Nie Li]

We remove the extra vocal on the articles when it precedes a noun that starts with another vocal. So "Un Anno" is grammatically correct and means "An year" more than "Year one".
Of course, there's the possiblity that the author doesn't know that and still wanted to mean "Year one" with a stylish adaptation.

I'm aware of that grammatical rule but I don't know the author had western audiences in mind (for the "name before surname" writing) when he chose the name.

You might be right, though, I remember "Cross Marian" from D.Gray-Man made more sense with our writing conventions. Either that, or the author made a blunder, or the author simply thought Un sounded better and more japanese than Uno.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 10, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 10, 2020 ---

Thinking it throught, "One Year" does sound more prophetic than "Year One" so it might really have been the author's intent.

Is Anno Un the character's actual name or only his pen name?

 

[Ebrietas-]

I'm aware of that grammatical rule but I don't know the author had western audiences in mind (for the "name before surname" writing) when he chose the name.

You might be right, though, I remember "Cross Marian" from D.Gray-Man made more sense with our writing conventions. Either that, or the author made a blunder, or the author simply thought Un sounded better and more japanese than Uno.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 10, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 10, 2020 ---

Thinking it throught, "One Year" does sound more prophetic than "Year One" so it might really have been the author's intent.

Is Anno Un the character's actual name or only his pen name?

You guys are looking too much into it. Anno Un is most likely just supposed to sound like Unknown which is what his/her ability probably is.

 

[Admiral Teach]

I don't think Anno Uno has been in previous loops, unless we have been told so and I've forgotten.

Juiz was in previous loops yet she didn't see anything coming about Billy and from the little flashbacks we saw we know that things happen very differently in each loop, so for Anno to know the future there's need of a foreshadowing power rather than memories of previous loops. If what she is using really is an artifact then she may have some memories of the artifact's story in the past loops, but just random images like the ones Fuuko got with Ragnarok or her gun. Also, since Juiz apparently doesn't know what the artifact is or looks like, it's likely one that didn't came in contact with Union in her loops.


Either way, Anno Uno is just too crazy. Characters who can casually cut off an arm (With no regeneration powers) when that becomes the best choice of action in a hard do or die situation are impressive, but characters who just casually cut if off without being in such a situation are just nutcracks. I'm guessing that the way his/her artifact's powers work he's just become used to knowing everything that will happen in the future to the smallest details, and that cutting off that arm at that precise time, even though it looks crazy, was somehow literally the best course of action and he/she has no regrets because of that.

However, I want to believe that her foreshadowing powers have limits because as much as the character's quite unique and interesting right now, it can become quite boring in the future if he/she just goes full Aizen and nothing ever goes against his/her plans. That works for a villain but not for a main cast character.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 9, 2020 ---

Btw, can anyone explain to me why Autumn UMA is obsessed with interesting stories and turning people into books? Just asking because I'm guessing there's some reason why autumn is associated with this but I fail to see it.

It is likely the theme of the UMA this time around. Think about it. Anno Un basically knows ALL the plot for the "story." Everything is already scripted. But Autumn keeps shouting, "Show me! Show me! A story no one knows!" and such lines (Which gave me chills to read. Awesome moment. It connects with the theme of history repeating. The UMA wants a story that has never been told. And currently, ALL of them have been. Though it seems maybe this arc will be about exiting the current loop, if loop it is, and doing something Anno Un hasn't predicted.

 

[Hermit]

500 posts. Nice. Very nice

--
I think the key to beating Autumn is not a battle, but a more peaceful means? Since I am tend to be a huge fan of romance, I think that to beat him, Andy and Fuuko will have to kiss in front of him. Not the cheek kisses, a kiss like the one that she gave Victor.
It's kind of like what she was trying to do in front of Shen, except this time it will actually be successful.
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Personally not a fan of the training arc though. We just came from one 5 chapters ago It just feels very unnecessary imo, kinda like what Black Clover is doing currently with the (6 months training arc> Oh, that wasn't enough> Condense the training into one or two days)
Should be interesting seeing how Unluck develops from this though.

 

[Nie Li]

It is likely the theme of the UMA this time around. Think about it. Anno Un basically knows ALL the plot for the "story." Everything is already scripted. But Autumn keeps shouting, "Show me! Show me! A story no one knows!" and such lines (Which gave me chills to read. Awesome moment. It connects with the theme of history repeating. The UMA wants a story that has never been told. And currently, ALL of them have been. Though it seems maybe this arc will be about exiting the current loop, if loop it is, and doing something Anno Un hasn't predicted.

The theme is interesting in itself, I agree, and I can see the connection you mention between the theme of Autumn and Anno.

I just wish I could understand the logic behind Autumn having the power of turning people into books. I mean, the other UMA's powers are usually much easier to understand. Clothes becomes clothes, Burn burns people and Spoil spoiled (rotted) people.

 

[kakilangit]

You guys are looking too much into it. Anno Un is most likely just supposed to sound like Unknown which is what his/her ability probably is.

BUT you know, it can be have double meaning, right.??. i am also fan of Anno un is pun of his/her negator power like everyone else. they are not cancel each other you know, can coexist together..

like this scenario, when chapter 31 drop, about BILLY betrayal. and its trending in japan, there is words/phrase that running around that time..
its "BE LIE".. weird, right?? yeah, thats japanese folk for you.. its not even written or pronounce the same (hey, we still dont know author's intent (until anime??))
they thought, son of b****, its the author plan all along. we shouldnt trust billy (or billie, or belie) from the start..

the author and japanese love pun, double pun or meaning..
..............

Oh, talk about double meaning..
Now i remember phrase 'BOOKWORM' or KUTUBUKU in my language.. you know its mean right??
the author may get that idea to make AUTUMN's Bug form... and he take it to another level..
its bug who love to read books a lot.. also Bug who like to eat books (human book)...
damn, now author love to make metaphorical word/phrase as literal sense...

 

[Hermit]

Not sure how reliable this is, so take it with A HUGE grain of salt.

Chapter 40 leaks:

Spoiler

ヘブンズドア
記憶の過去世界

Which roughly translate to:

Spoiler

Heaven's Door
The Past World of Memory

 

[Admiral Teach]

The theme is interesting in itself, I agree, and I can see the connection you mention between the theme of Autumn and Anno.

I just wish I could understand the logic behind Autumn having the power of turning people into books. I mean, the other UMA's powers are usually much easier to understand. Clothes becomes clothes, Burn burns people and Spoil spoiled (rotted) people.

For me personally I always start reading and writing in Autumn like crazy. I know other authors who do to. And major authors like Brandon Sandersonr release their big books in Autumn... and November is NaNoWriMo. That's only national and so I assume for where I live... but... it fits for me perfectly and I thought it was a creative but fitting addition to Autumn's personality. There's also the Spider theme. And we authors sometimes refer to our work as "weaving threads, or Plot Threats"...

And of course where I live, the BIG spiders ALWAYS come out full-force in October, which is Autumn for me. I think Autumn fits perfectly for my experience with the season. . . Less traditional, capturing the spirit of autumn, not the typical surface style of pumpkins and stuff.

Speaking of Autumn... do the leaves ever turn in Undead+Unluck's world? Is this going to be something new they experience? I can't recall if they ever mention the leaves falling or turning red in Canada. Or maybe they were always in a state of redness and falling before Autumn? In Canada specifically I mean.

 

[Hermit]

More leaks:

Spoiler: Raws

乙あり
ジャンフェスに向けて豪華企画進行中だって
コロナがなかったらリアルジャンフェスで担当さんがコスしたり色々やってくれたんだろうと思うと悔しすぎるな

離脱した3人と入れ替りで秋の近くに2人来てた
ぬいぐるみっぽいやつ？とスニーカー履いてるやつ
リップ側の奴だと思う

安野の家はボロボロの洋館って感じ
床に大量の原稿（ネーム）が散乱してる
それを集めて読む風子

ジュイスはトップ、シェン、ムイと行動中
高層階ががピラミッドみたいに細くなってるビルの前にいる
ジュイスはサングラス、ジャケットなしのスーツって感じの服、細長い鞄（剣が入ってる的な）
トップはいつもと同じ格好
シェンはいつものにジャケット
暑いのか邪魔なのか脱ぎたそうにしてる
ムイちゃんもジャケット着用

このメンバーなら可能だから慎重にいく、と修行を拒否するジュイスへ
手札がいいなら賭けにでなくちゃ、と安野
神の手から離れた最高のエンドにしたいという

アンディも過去を知りたがる
アンディを爪で切る？時の安野の顔がやばい
長い棒みたいなのはページが途方もなく多い一冊の本だった
宇宙まで飛び出してる
それだけ長い時間を生きたってことだ、と安野

安野のアーティファクトは左胸に埋め込まれてる
人から魂を抜き取り、物に封じ込めることができる
本に入り、なぜアンディが生まれたのか知ることができるという

風子は町が遠くに見える荒野的なところで目覚める
戦争中っぽくて銃を向けられるが会話ができず困る
ニコのネクタイは使えず、簡単な英語は役立たなかった
撃たれるが過去のアンディが助けてくれる
背後にはアンディの仲間たちも
額にはなんか刺さってて包帯してて血が出てる
風子「ア…アンディ？」
アンディ「Ah?」

次回増ページの記載はないけど予告ページに載ってる

Spoiler: Summary/Rough translation

-anno, andy, and fuuko get back to anno's house
-it's a western-style house with lots of manuscripts/storyboards on the floor, which fuuko reads through
-anno draws union's emblem so they can get in touch with juiz
-they ask juiz about more training
-juiz refuses, but fuuko insists
-anno tells juiz that they'll be careful w/ training, that if they've got a good hand they should wager it, and that they want the best outcome as removed from god as possible
-a scream comes out from Juiz's side and hurts Anno's ears
-meanwhile, two other figures approach autumn
-one kinda looks like a stuffed animal; the other's wearing sneakers
-probably working with rip/under
-juiz, top, shen, and mui are in front of a pyramid-like building
-juiz is wearing sunglasses and a suit w/o a jacket
-top looks the same as usual
-shen is wearing a jacket over his usual clothes; tries to take it off
-mui's wearing a jacket as well
-anno copies autumn's claws and hits andy w/ a crazy look on their face
-a massive book w/ tons of pages comes out
-anno uses their artifact to transport fuuko's soul inside
-ends up in the middle of a forest in a warzone
-past andy saves fuuko from getting shot
-fuuko says "A-Andy?"
-past andy says "Huh?"

Source: Discord

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 12, 2020 ---

Chapter 40 is out

 

[James Rye]

Man, that guy is one hell of a crazy coach. And I LOOOOOVE this way of flashback! No remembering, no retelling, no flashback outta nowhere, but an actual artifact (actually two, the pen and the soul blabla thingie) being used to put the Main Heroine's soul into the enormous book that holds the whole life of Andy and Victhor and she is right in there like for real, being part of the memories and everything! Awesome! Now I wonder if this will somehow mess with Andy's memories like he will think he saw her there for real in his past or if this gonna be a Fuuko only experience and Andy got some other trial to be at.

 

[Hermit]

In chapter 3, Andy mentions his old war buddies:

Spoiler

Who he then reveals are dead in Chapter 6:

Spoiler

Kinda ties in neatly with the ending of this chapter

Though, I do wonder what name they refer to him by Considering 'Andy' is a name that Fuuko came up with for him.....

 

[Demonspeed]

So Anno can recreate any ability just like that?

Andy was a cow-boy? Probably a mercenary.

 

[thedude]

I'm still amazed at how poorly this started for how good it's gotten. "poorly designed naked main character gag fighting manga" was my first impression. Glad i was so wrong!

 

[kakilangit]

ok, now under come along on the mission.. so UNSEEN is with them this whole time.. and is that RIP?? everyone says so, it is because the shoes?? but really, we will get RIP 3 arc in row before we got to know shit about everyone else on under???

why no one talk more about juiz here?? she is dope as hell with all that shades..
i guess they go on mission to kill UMA SPRING.. the only uma seasons that located in city with high building. while winter on arctic (or snowy place), summer on village/suburban in japanese local..

so, with big 2 (juiz and shen) on same mission. i dont see any remaining union, NICO, phil, tatiana, isshin and chikara split to take 2 different uma. i dont see beside nico had capable as 'leader' of the group..

and i always love abnormal FLASHBACK story telling. UU with their crazy world and weapon (artifact) can pull this off, and oh boy, it work..

 

[Admiral Teach]

I'm still amazed at how poorly this started for how good it's gotten. "poorly designed naked main character gag fighting manga" was my first impression. Glad i was so wrong!

You are not the only one! This series is the best in Jump currently. It's like Kimetsu no Yaiba. No one knew about it. Then the gem was dug up and raved about by enough people that exposure occurred. Problem is with the beginning exposure is the problem and dampens popularity. But I doubt it'd have gotten far without doing something crazy. A lot of series with plenty of potential got canceled.

And I'm waiting for this to go like Samurai 8. It is more popular but with the way things go nowadays with new series... how safe do we think this is, exactly?

And this latest chapter was awesome. I love Juiz' reaction to Anno Un.

So... only bad endings await in the futures Anno Un crafts. I like that. His character is being handled perfectly so far, save the arm thing. But I bet he can just use his artifact to restore the arm. That is likely what he's about while Fuuko and Andy take a trip down memory lane. And wow. I pegged Andy as a cowboy type from the beginning due to how his words were always translated. Turns out I was right. And isn't there mention by him about being a Cowboy at some point in his past in the Spoil Arc?

Here's powerup for Fuuko: She creates an Unlucky Artifact. Something that she can put into others that won't come out or off, like a shackle or an arrow (Bullets feel like they'd possibly go through a target or miss easily, given how easily characters avoid gun injuries in manga in general. Next least reliable weapon next to explosives.

Her artifact could then induce bad luck in people without her having to utilize Andy or herself. And it may even work regardless of her feelings toward whoever holds the artifact.

Or maybe Andy could do the same. Potentially expendable or limited Regeneration rings/cards/accessories/even pills to help allies. Undead+Unluck's version of Senzo Beans?

 

[thedude]

You are not the only one! This series is the best in Jump currently. It's like Kimetsu no Yaiba. No one knew about it. Then the gem was dug up and raved about by enough people that exposure occurred. Problem is with the beginning exposure is the problem and dampens popularity. But I doubt it'd have gotten far without doing something crazy. A lot of series with plenty of potential got canceled.

And I'm waiting for this to go like Samurai 8. It is more popular but with the way things go nowadays with new series... how safe do we think this is, exactly?

And this latest chapter was awesome. I love Juiz' reaction to Anno Un.

So... only bad endings await in the futures Anno Un crafts. I like that. His character is being handled perfectly so far, save the arm thing. But I bet he can just use his artifact to restore the arm. That is likely what he's about while Fuuko and Andy take a trip down memory lane. And wow. I pegged Andy as a cowboy type from the beginning due to how his words were always translated. Turns out I was right. And isn't there mention by him about being a Cowboy at some point in his past in the Spoil Arc?

Here's powerup for Fuuko: She creates an Unlucky Artifact. Something that she can put into others that won't come out or off, like a shackle or an arrow (Bullets feel like they'd possibly go through a target or miss easily, given how easily characters avoid gun injuries in manga in general. Next least reliable weapon next to explosives.

Her artifact could then induce bad luck in people without her having to utilize Andy or herself. And it may even work regardless of her feelings toward whoever holds the artifact.

Or maybe Andy could do the same. Potentially expendable or limited Regeneration rings/cards/accessories/even pills to help allies. Undead+Unluck's version of Senzo Beans?

I think it's being promoted pretty well, selling decent for a new series. The key will be if it gets an animated series. And hopefully they writer doesn't kill the momentum with a long battle arc (sorry fans of MHA or Jujutsu Kaisen...but those latest arcs in both just murdered the momentum.) so far it's moving along at a nice pace.

 

[Hermit]

and is that RIP?? everyone says so, it is because the shoes?? but really, we will get RIP 3 arc in row before we got to know shit about everyone else on under???

Tbf he didn't really do anything when Billy revealed he was the traitor, haha. I feel like Rip and Latla being there was meant to be a way to drive the point home that Billy is actually a bad guy. To us the readers, and to the Union members.
But aside from that, going forward I think Rip will be the poster boy of Under. Kinda like how Itachi had all that screentime in Naruto before he passed on. His personality stands out for that

Btw, could there be a chance he cannot use his Negator powers currently? That, or they are weaker than they were when he was an adult I feel as if that would be a realistic enough drawback for having his form regress to that of a child.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 18, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 17, 2020 ---

Chapter 41 spoilers:

今日の昼には買ってたけど、バレ書くの面倒くさかったから放置してたわ

簡易だけ

・過去当時(南北戦争直後くらい？)のアンディはまだ自分が不死だと知らない
・風子とアンディ達が酒場にいると突然現れたヒットマン達に風子以外殺される(風子は仲間の女が庇った)
・生き返ったアンディがヒットマン達を殺害した上で、自分が不死だと知る

大した進展は無いよ

Rough translation:

Spoiler

-Andy doesn't know that he's Undead
-Civil War confirmed
-Andy and Fuuko go to a bar
-Bar gets ambushed by hitmen
-Everyone except Fuuko killed
-Andy revives and kills the hitman

Source: Discord

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 20, 2020 ---

Chapter 41 is out

 

[James Rye]

Damn, those friends of Andy were really good guys. But man all those selfless people just get killed off so quickly... poor Andy. Fuuko was really cool with the gun moment when she pulled the trigger 5 times like a mad girl! She is so awesome! <3