Shounen Undead Unluck

[Hermit]

Jump Festa illustration:

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 19, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 18, 2020 ---

 

[James Rye]

I hope this boost campaign with those Line stickers help a little to increase UU's popularity. Feels like it can need every push it can get to go as far as it can. It is growing but I'd still like to see it grow even more than that.^^

 

[Hermit]

Chapter 45 is out

 

[Demonspeed]

The power of of love the soul triumphs! If the world gets reset then doesn't everyone reincarnate in a way?

If Victhor is that strong even with his current mindset then he could be even more monstrous in the future.

I am still curious to see if all of this will affect the real Andy.

 

[Hermit]

Was not such a fan of the soul explanation, felt way too corny lol. Though if I think of it as the same gimmick Victor did in the Spoil fight (He was regenerating bits of his body from fingers back then), it makes the whole situation easier to understand.
I'm guessing the next time we see Victor he will be more tolerable towards Andy?

 

[Nie Li]

Damn it all. Now the unluck manifested with that sphere/cage thing falling right besides the head so they can capture it.

So the unluck is really about "bad luck" and not just lethal dangers nearby, and I once again don't like how her particular power played out in previous fights.

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On the other hand I like Andy's powers more and more. So as we say here, "the sheeps that enter for those that get out".

 

[Hermit]

Damn it all. Now the unluck manifested with that sphere/cage thing falling right besides the head so they can capture it.

The chapter was mirroring chapter 1. Basically, all the Unluck Andy experienced there in his first meeting with Fuuko, Victor was also experiencing. For example:

Spoiler: The Unlucky Train

Spoiler: The airplane/crate of bananas

^ Here, I think the difference with the first chapter is that Fuuko has actually taken a liking to Andy now. In the first panel you can see a plane (Top left), presumably where the crate of bananas came from. Back then she thought Andy was a creep (Small stroke of Unluck), but in this case, she brought down the whole plane.

Spoiler: The capsule Unluck

^ And finally this.

At least, that was how I interpreted the chapter But I do get your issues with the ability, there are times it tend to feel very convenient

 

[Nie Li]

The chapter was mirroring chapter 1. Basically, all the Unluck Andy experienced there in his first meeting with Fuuko, Victor was also experiencing. For example:

Spoiler: The Unlucky Train

Spoiler: The airplane/crate of bananas

^ Here, I think the difference with the first chapter is that Fuuko has actually taken a liking to Andy now. In the first panel you can see a plane (Top left), presumably where the crate of bananas came from. Back then she thought Andy was a creep (Small stroke of Unluck), but in this case, she brought down the whole plane.

Spoiler: The capsule Unluck

^ And finally this.

At least, that was how I interpreted the chapter But I do get your issues with the ability, there are times it tend to feel very convenient

The similarities don't change my issues but nice catches! It's a nice parallelism of how that day originally played out. I like that.

 

[James Rye]

I really liked the short flashback of Victhor to when he and Juiz were doing their thing of being the first to oppose god and his rules and you see Juiz as a guy and you are like "Whut? Juiz was a guy in a previous world?", THEN you realize that this was BEFORE God added the rule "gender" and with that sex, pregnancy, hormones troubled teens, etc. Basically we had a world were every human was male before god said "lol, nope" and Juiz suddenly had tatas and no peepee and because s/he was a negator s/he still remembered being a guy!
Until it no longer mattered to her and she banged Victhor. XD

Man, being a negator in this world must be soooo crazy. Especially if you had a couple reruns like Juiz and Victhor.^^

 

[Wookitake]

It makes sense now that Juiz has that name. The feminine of it (in Portuguese at least) is Juíza. I had not thought about the genderless world being the reason for that. Makes sense.

Andy is stronger now, there were some nice ideas in the fight.

If the soul passes through the ends of the world, then maybe it was one of the first created rules in the world, right?

 

[Nie Li]

I really liked the short flashback of Victhor to when he and Juiz were doing their thing of being the first to oppose god and his rules and you see Juiz as a guy and you are like "Whut? Juiz was a guy in a previous world?", THEN you realize that this was BEFORE God added the rule "gender" and with that sex, pregnancy, hormones troubled teens, etc. Basically we had a world were every human was male before god said "lol, nope" and Juiz suddenly had tatas and no peepee and because s/he was a negator s/he still remembered being a guy!
Until it no longer mattered to her and she banged Victhor. XD

Man, being a negator in this world must be soooo crazy. Especially if you had a couple reruns like Juiz and Victhor.^^

Is that a theory or an explanation I've missed? Aren't negators immune to change rather than only remembering how it previously was like? Like how some of them still didn't spoke English after the world language changed.

If it's only a theory, I instead believe Juiz somehow reincarnates into different bodies (thanks to her/his artifact) whenever there is a new cycle.

 

[James Rye]

@Moegara Maybe they are immune to rule changes due rule holder deaths as the world language one was the case. Like UMA Galaxy's birth all negators still remembered a world with only sun moon and earth and some asteroids which were the former earths but it's not like they can "ignore" the new world. Maybe same happened with Gender. UMA Gender was born and suddenly some Negators changed their gender, remembered their old gender and how the world was before females existed but that alone doesn't change reality for them either.

 

[Nie Li]

@Moegara Maybe they are immune to rule changes due rule holder deaths as the world language one was the case. Like UMA Galaxy's birth all negators still remembered a world with only sun moon and earth and some asteroids which were the former earths but it's not like they can "ignore" the new world. Maybe same happened with Gender. UMA Gender was born and suddenly some Negators changed their gender, remembered their old gender and how the world was before females existed but that alone doesn't change reality for them either.

But my point is that when language was introduced and suddenly everyone spoke English, negators did not only remember speaking japanese: some of them still didn't know how to speak English. So I believe they were actually immune to the change.

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That meaning that I don't believe their gender could suddenly change, since they'd be immune to the new rules, unlike normal humans.

 

[James Rye]

But UMA Language wasn't introduced, UMA language was eliminated with the reward from Apocalypse being the unification of all languages on earth. That's different from the introduction of a new UMA, isn't it? After all if what you say is true, then all Negators should also negate their born language and only speak English aka "world language" while UMA Language was still alive and kicking, before Nico kicked its butt into the grave, yet we got plenty Negators who never spoke any other language but the one they were born with.

 

[Nie Li]

But UMA Language wasn't introduced, UMA language was eliminated with the reward from Apocalypse being the unification of all languages on earth. That's different from the introduction of a new UMA, isn't it? After all if what you say is true, then all Negators should also negate their born language and only speak English aka "world language" while UMA Language was still alive and kicking, before Nico kicked its butt into the grave, yet we got plenty Negators who never spoke any other language but the one they were born with.

Mmmh. So you believe they're immune to rules being eliminated but not to rules being added?

Well, it's possible. It's true that it's not the same.

 

[James Rye]

Yeah, I believe Negators fall like all other humans under the same rules, whenever new or old from previous worlds, because otherwise all Negators would be like Andy as according to UMA Spoil nobody died before he got introduced meaning humanity enjoyed immortality before death became a thing and someone became a Negator of Death, our dearest Victor aka Undead. Obviously the Negators from the Earth run where Spoil first came into being still remembered their immortality but then they all, except Victor and maybe Juiz depending if UMA Gender happened before or after UMA Spoil, died and that kind of humanity was forgotten. Again except by Victor and maybe Juiz but it's not like that matters much now with all other Negators in the after-Spoil runs believing human life only spans somewhere between 60 and 100 years. Same with UMA Gender.

And @Wookitake saying that Juiz is a male name and the female name Juíza yer Juiz is quite obviously female, and one hell of a woman at that, yet her name is male. And with her Arch explanation of crossing to the new-born worlds after the old ones got destroyed it makes sense she kept her old name to remember what God took from her - her balls.
WHERE ARE MY BALLS, GOD!?!?

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Actually, this brings me to a question I always asked myself but obviously we don't have an answer to that yet (hopefully we will at some point) - what do you think was the first UMA, the first rule God threw at an unsuspected immortal, never hungry humankind where everyone was a bro?

 

[Hermit]

Actually, this brings me to a question I always asked myself but obviously we don't have an answer to that yet (hopefully we will at some point) - what do you think was the first UMA, the first rule God threw at an unsuspected immortal, never hungry humankind where everyone was a bro?

I guess UMA Knowledge? The way you said 'Everyone was a bro' makes me think of the Garden of Eden in the Bible. And when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, they couldn't live in the garden anymore (Where it was peaceful), and were thrust into the outside world where it was chaotic and they had to fend for themselves.
If we are to assume Anno Un is the Negator Unknown, the relative UMA would be 'Knowledge'

Of course, all this is just theorizing

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So, seeing as there is no chapter this weekend, I thought of a fun little activity we could engage in (While we wait for the first chapter of the new year)
Undead Unluck started in the first two months of the new year. With 45 chapters out already, who would you say have been your:

-Favorite character (Pick up to three choices)
-Favorite Union member
-Least favorite Union member
-Favorite Under member
-Favorite Negator ability (List any three)
-Least favorite Negator ability
-Favorite arc
-Favorite fight
-Favorite UMA

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Tagging the UU faithful
@Wookitake @Demonspeed @Moegara @Tatsumaki @James Rye

 

[Wookitake]

-Favorite character (Pick up to three choices): Andy, Fuuko, Juiz
-Favorite Union member: Andy
-Least favorite Union member: Phil
-Favorite Under member: Billy
-Favorite Negator ability (List any three): Unluck
-Least favorite Negator ability: Unfeel
-Favorite arc: (don't know)
-Favorite fight: Everyone vs. Viktor (after spoil)
-Favorite UMA: Spoil

 

[Tatsumaki]

-Favorite character (Pick up to three choices): Victor and Juiz
-Favorite Union member: Juiz
-Least favorite Union member: The child (Phil ?) is the one I'm the least interested in.
-Favorite Under member: Well...we only have 5 choices so... Billy ?
-Favorite Negator ability (List any three): Unbelievable and Unjustice
-Least favorite Negator ability: Untruth
-Favorite arc: The ship arc
-Favorite fight: Can Juiz one shotting a whole fleet of aliens be considered a fight ? If yes that's my favorite. If not Fuuko/Chikara/Tatiana/Andy vs Rip and the girl
-Favorite UMA: Galaxy

 

[Hermit]

@kakilangit @Monox D. I-Fly @TyVip You guys want to try this out?

While we wait for the rest of the answers :
Favorite character: Shen, Gina, Fuuko
Favorite Union member: Shen
Least favorite Union member: Top
Favorite Under member: Rip
Favorite Negator ability: Unchange, Unluck, Untouchable
Least favorite Negator ability: Unmove (Lame asf, poor man's Unavoidable)
Favorite arc: Spoil arc
Favorite fight: Spoil fight (Shen whooping his overgrown ass>>>>>>>>)
Favorite UMA: Burn

Can Juiz one shotting a whole fleet of aliens be considered a fight ? If yes that's my favorite. If not Fuuko/Chikara/Tatiana/Andy vs Rip and the girl

Yep, the Juiz one totally counts

-Favorite Under member: Billy

-Favorite Under member: Well...we only have 5 choices so... Billy ?

Did not expect this though I thought Unrepair (Rip) would be a given for everyone. Interesting choice in Billy.