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I'm not suggesting McCain shouldn't fight back. But the way that he has defended his policies to Obama's attacks, thus far, has been weak, and I think he can do much better.

The reason why McCain is still in it, I think, is not because of Obama's perceived lack of experience. I think his oratory skills makes up for that.

I think McCain is still in it because Obama has alienated some of his own far-left constituents as he has moved to the center (he could have avoided this if only he have made this pivot less drastically). Also the fact that there's some grudge by some remaining Hillary supporters.

I think Obama made some short term sacrifices (the many flip flops) that have costed him, but he'll recover from this easily, in the long term.

On the other hand, McCain is still in it, only because of the looming danger of Iran...and I have to put it out there, bluntly. The people are generally more comfortable with a hard-liner when there's a looming danger, and this is true in almost every case in US presidential election history. But McCain definitely needs to step it up. He needs a more coherent theme in his campaign that will ring well with the voters, because thus far, he's doing a sloppy job. Focus must be on economy and national security, and he needs to repeat this rhetoric over and over.
 

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You make a good point there.
 

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From The Weekly Standard:

The Democrats' Popularity Fetish
Global approval is overrated.

by James Kirchick

07/21/2008, Volume 013, Issue 42


A major theme of this year's presidential campaign is that the United States has lost the respect of the world and that electing a Democrat, especially Barack Obama, is the way to fix it. "What if we could restore America's place in the world, and people's faith in our government?" asks one Obama ad.

Obama's supposed ability to make the United States loved again is taken as a given by the pundit class, not to mention his adoring followers. Listing his reasons for supporting the junior senator from Illinois, the Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan swooned, "First and foremost: his face. Think of it as the most effective potential re-branding of the United States since Reagan." In a New York Times dispatch datelined Paris, foreign affairs columnist Roger Cohen gushed that the French see Obama as one of "les bons Américains" alongside John F. Kennedy, Michael Moore, and Al Gore. Writing in the Baltimore Sun, University of Maryland professor Thomas Schaller declared that Obama "may yet prove to be America's next great export."

The fervor for Obama here at home appears to be matched by equal, if not more ardent, enthusiasm abroad. "Excitement about Obama spreads around the world," read the headline of a recent Associated Press story, which described the junior senator from Illinois as a "global phenomenon." Yet as tempting as some may find it to support Obama for his worldwide appeal, to believe that his election will dramatically improve America's relations with the world is incredibly shallow.

In the simplistic narrative of the Obama boosters, President Bush and his party's successor, John McCain, are cranky nationalists who view the world through the barrel of a gun. But the fact is, in this election it is the Democratic candidate who is proposing policies profoundly at odds with his promise to restore America's preeminent place in the world.

Take the issue of trade. In Senate debates earlier this year, Obama vocally opposed free trade deals with both South Korea and Colombia. Asked what Congress's failure to pass the Colombia Free Trade Act would mean for bilateral relations between his country and the United States, Colombian president Alvaro Uribe replied, "It would be very serious."

But Obama hasn't just opposed free trade pacts with our closest allies in Asia and Latin America. During the Democratic primary, in an attempt to shore up the votes of rust-belt blue-collar workers in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, he vowed to renegotiate NAFTA, the free trade pact between the United States, Canada, and Mexico. A minor scandal erupted when it was revealed that Obama's chief economic adviser had reassured Canadian officials that his boss's protectionist rhetoric was just campaign sloganeering. After he clinched his party's nomination, Obama tried to confirm that the Canadians' fear was unfounded in an interview with Fortune magazine, saying that "sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified."

Given his anti-trade voting record, though, it's hard to know whether to take Obama's latest statements seriously. His easy ability to go from calling NAFTA a "big mistake" to disavowing the comments months later doesn't inspire confidence in his supposedly unshakable principles, never mind his ability to send a positive message to the world that America is open for business.

Indeed, so put off was he by Obama's protectionist rhetoric that British foreign minister David Miliband in May sent Obama an implicit warning to unmoor himself from the agenda of American labor unions. "The problem is not too much trade, the problem is too little trade," he told the Financial Times. "That is our position as a British government, and it will be articulated clearly and consistently." Alarmed at Obama's anti-NAFTA rhetoric, Canada's National Post opined, "The treaty is simply too integral to our prosperity to take anything about it for granted," and suggested that should the United States even consider renegotiating NAFTA, Canada, America's largest supplier of oil, should threaten to cut off supplies.

Also disconcerting to many around the world is Obama's promise--articulated in a debate last August--to meet with a variety of anti-American dictators without preconditions. He has since tried to backtrack from this off-the-cuff remark, yet its utterance showed Obama's remarkable hubris--his apparent belief that seemingly intractable world problems will be easier to solve simply by dint of his charming personality. He is far from alone in this belief. Writing recently in the Boston Globe, Mark Oppenheimer suggested that "given Obama's popularity abroad, it's possible to imagine that his meetings would embolden pro-American or pro-Western forces wherever he went."

Yet negotiating with tin-pot tyrants is a double-edged sword. For every despot a President Obama meets with, he runs the risk of demoralizing the democracy activists suffering under the despot's boot, and the neighboring countries threatened by said tyrant's hegemony. An unconditional meeting with Venezuela's Hugo Chávez, for instance, would rightly anger Colombians, as Chávez's Venezuela has provided assistance to Colombia's antigovernment FARC guerrillas.

Ah, but then there is the Bush foreign policy, Obama partisans argue. It's true that the Iraq war is exhibit A for America haters around the globe, yet it's unclear how Obama's solution--complete withdrawal in little over a year and unconditional negotiations with the Syrians and Iranians--will win us popularity. Leaving Iraq at the pace the Democrats propose would very likely throw the country into chaos, and the people most obviously pleased by this policy would be the Iranians.

Yet let us assume that it is Bush's foreign policy that has earned the evident displeasure with the United States expressed in many countries around the world. Voters desiring to reverse this trend should then give a second look to John McCain, for the Republican's worldwide appeal has been badly underestimated. In March, McCain toured through Europe and the Middle East, and won winning headlines wherever he traveled. The Guardian, a newspaper hardly known for its pro-American or pro-Republican sympathies, noted that "Mr. McCain should not be dismissed as Bush mark two" because he is "made of sterner stuff and he has a lifetime of engagement with the outside world --and the scars to prove it--that gives him the moral seriousness Mr. Bush so lacks." And in the past several weeks, McCain has toured Canada, Mexico, and Colombia in an attempt to highlight--to its potential victims abroad--the differences between his pro-trade agenda and the protectionist pandering of his opponent. McCain has distinguished himself from President Bush on a variety of issues--from the closure of Guantánamo to global warming--that are frequently cited in the litany of alleged American misdeeds that Obama will fix.

Ultimately, it remains questionable whether American voters should concern themselves much with "global opinion." In any case, so committed are Obama supporters to the belief that Bush has lowered America's standing to an unprecedented extent that they cannot explain the election of pro-American leaders in Italy (Silvio Berlusconi), Germany (Angela Merkel), and France (Nicolas Sarkozy). Partly because of their candidate's multi-ethnic background, and partly because of their hatred for Bush, many Obama supporters have a wildly overconfident view of their candidate's powers, one that assumes his emergence onto the world stage will, in the candidate's own phrase, begin to heal the planet. It won't.

James Kirchick is an assistant editor at the New Republic.

© Copyright 2008, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.




[update]

You all probably have heard about the much discussed "incendiary" cartoon in the latest New Yorker cover, which the editors who opted to publish it, claimed it was "satire", as a means to reveal and disqualify the "absurdity" of the false rumors supposedly coming from "right-wing" critics.

You can read about this story in full at Politico.com.

While I can agree to the fact that there are some political circles out there deliberately trying to smear Obama based on false rumors (and a good example I can think of is that Obama is a Muslim...which clearly he is NOT), the sources of these rumors are not from Republicans.

Just as I would never attribute false rumors that suggest McCain as a warmonger and a "baby-killer" during the Vietnam War, as a smear done by Democrats, because to generalize an entire political party as such, would be ridiculous.

The truth is, whoever is spreading these false rumors about either candidate, are coming from a minority of extremist political activists...most coming from the internet, and we all know how nasty the internet can be.

To suggest that Republicans readily accepts these caricature of Obama, as the New Yorker would have you believe (even though their attempts at satire utterly FAILED), is yet another attempt to portray Republicans as bigots and simpletons.

The GOP has already been portrayed as racists. Now, we are also perpetrators of internet hate crime directed at Obama. It doesn't get old.

The irony of all this is that, the New Yorker is not a right-wing publication. It's the opposite. But since it's satire, it's all OK.




In case you were all too distracted by the New Yorker controversy, here's something you might have missed this week: See here.

Apparently, an Obama supporter, Bernie Mac, performed a stand-up at a fundraiser that was "offensive" and "sexist". Obama got up on stage a few minutes later and tried to downplay the situation, and the Obama campaign issued a statement of "rebuke" afterwards, disapproving of Bernie Mac's behavior.

This is bad news for Obama, especially since he's been trying to woo many of Hillary's female supporters. Certainly the media could have capitalized on this opportunity to criticize Obama and his poor choice of so-called "friends", much as the media had jumped all over McCain's economic adviser, Senator Phil Gramm's comments that Americans are suffering from a "mental recession", and that we are a "nation of whiners".

Nothing can be farther from the truth. Instead, the media gossip was all about the New Yorker cover, hardly any mention of the Bernie Mac controversy. How convenient.




Speaking about the "offensive" and "distasteful" New Yorker cover, and the controversy and the outrage that erupted in the media that followed, how about the equally offensive and distasteful epithets thrown at John McCain about his POW experience....huh? Double standard, perhaps?

The Rolling Stone magazine published one about a month ago....where was the outrage in the media?

And when Wesley Clark said that McCain's military experience did not matter, the media was confused why McCain was offended by it. Hmmmm....I wonder why.



Hillary Clinton once complained to the media, why they were obviously favoring Barack Obama, during the Democratic Primaries.

Well, it doesn't surprise me much that the same is true in the General Election. They've done an actual study that reveals that the media coverage of Obama far outnumbers McCain, by at least 2 to 1!

"The Tyndall Report, a news coverage monitoring service that has the broadcast networks as clients, reports that three newscasts by the traditional networks — which have a combined audience of more than 20 million people — spent 114 minutes covering Obama since June; they spent 48 minutes covering McCain."


We're not even allowed to mock Barack Obama, or make jokes about him. He's off limits. Otherwise, his most ardent supporters will paint you as a bigot or racist.

Maureen Dowd of the New York Times wrote an interesting piece about the "humorless" Barack, here.





Here's an interesting LA Times story showing Obama straddling both sides of the Israel-Palestinian issue.

I've noted this behavioral pattern from Obama a long time ago. He truly is the consummate politician, and even I have to grant him that.

He knows how to win the support of any listener, whether you're Palestinian, Israeli, it doesn't matter. He'll tell you what you want to hear. But during election season, he'll choose his words carefully and take equivocal positions, so you'll never guess what he's really trying to say. And when flip-flopping on an issue is politically expedient, he'll explain that his "critics haven't really been listening". He'll even throw anyone under the bus, if that person has become a political liability.

I don't believe a word coming out of Obama's mouth anymore. It's already bad enough that I disagree with him with Iraq. But I can't decipher what Obama's "true" position is, regarding the Israel-Palestinian issue. One minute, it appears that he's heavily pro-Palestinian, the next, he's courting the Jewish vote. What is it, really, Senator Obama?
 
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i don't really think obama's race card can do any damage...... consider his church and many of his unnecessarily anti American comments

don't know why but now that it come down between obama and Mccain, i hope Mccain win...
 

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i don't really think obama's race card can do any damage...... consider his church and many of his unnecessarily anti American comments

don't know why but now that it come down between obama and Mccain, i hope Mccain win...
But that's an unfair criticism of Barack. He had no idea his uncle preached that way (for nearly 20 years). We have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 

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no i am more stress about Barack's own unecessarily comments such as the one about bilingual as for his uncle preached.. he could have step up and said something before it became public.. i believe he at least had some ideas.....
 

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Im sorry you cant go 2 years without noticing someone's tendencies, let alone 20. Obama is the most full of shit person Ive ever seen, almost rivaliing Hillary.

Miyi, based on the points you've made about the way he speaks and gets popular support, its kind of eerie because it reminds me of Hitler (and maybe Mussolini), only more subtle and calmer with his passionate words.
 

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What's funny about all this (if any of it could be considered funny) is that it wasn't the Republicans that first brought up the race card in this case, it was the liberal party. Liberal journalists who asked if Obama was black enough. Liberal journalists who were rooting for Hillary Clinton to make a comeback.

Democrats are just a pot calling the kettle black.
 

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And you know the other new tactic they're using? We can't even criticize Obama about foreign policy, or national security, because anytime we mention these things, we are labeled as "fearmongers".

I just love the many epithets they come up with. It's as if, Obama is immune to all types of criticism.

I hope McCain keeps to his promise and doesn't stoop so low as to resort to name calling. I know he's much classier than that.
 

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Jesus. Is it just me or does this all seem so...surreal? Its just unbelievable!...
 

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For me obama is well aware that American would love to see a black president in the future days ...and he uses the race trump card with much ease ....(it is simple for him due to his origin)

But we have to agree that obama is an intelligent guy able to be the president with much ease Imo he's up to the job
 

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But we have to agree that obama is an intelligent guy able to be the president with much ease Imo he's up to the job
Why?
Name his specific plans and agenda as well as qualifications, if he's ever gone into such detail aside from his own vague rhetoric.
 

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Economic models predict clear Obama win in November

How dare he!

Quickly, go tell everybody in your family and neighborhood not to vote for Obama, because y'know, he might actually starts doing something against the economy crisis. As we all know, the night is darkest before the dawn, and the way I see it, we're still in the middle of the night. Give us four, hell, eight more years of GOP leadership and things will definitely start getting better!

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - It really is the economy, stupid! Economic models that have correctly predicted the winner of almost all post-war U.S. presidential elections say recession fears will secure a victory for Barack Obama in November.

Three separate studies showed the Democratic presidential hopeful winning between 52 and 55 percent of the popular vote on November 4, based on current gloomy economic estimates.

Any further darkening in the economic outlook -- many analysts think things will get worse between now and November -- would reinforce that election outcome.

"The economy is certainly not going to be a positive for the Republicans," said Ray Fair, an economics professor at Yale university who built the earliest of the models in 1978.

His model, which assumed tepid U.S. economic growth of 1.5 percent and a 3 percent rate of inflation, predicted the Republican candidate John McCain's share of the vote would be 47.8 percent, handing Obama 52.2 percent.

"It is a decent margin but it is not a landslide," said Fair, who ran the numbers in April. "It would have been much larger if there had been a recession in 2008."

U.S. economic activity doubled in the second quarter to a 1.9 percent annualized pace. But previous data was revised lower to show output contracted 0.2 percent in the final three months of last year, the weakest performance since 2001, and expanded only slightly at the start of 2008.

"It's the economy, stupid!" was a phrase extensively used during Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against George H.W. Bush to remind voters that a recession occurred during Bush's administration.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0138628820080801?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews
 

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Obama May Be Too Thin To Be President!

Whew, and I thought we might be in trouble for a second there. Let's face it, folks. Obama is just not one of us. He's elitist (he got a degree from Harvard after all!), out of touch (guy actually advocates for more time to think!) and Anti-American (just ask the Germans, French or every American living in Europe who came to hear his "speech" in Berlin).

But that's not all, my friends.

The Wall Street Journal's Amy Chozick warns Barack Obama of another potentially elitist personal trait -- he's too thin:

Speaking to donors at a San Diego fund-raiser last month, Barack Obama reassured the crowd that he wouldn't give in to Republican tactics to throw his candidacy off track.

"Listen, I'm skinny but I'm tough," Sen. Obama said.

But in a nation in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability? Despite his visits to waffle houses, ice-cream parlors and greasy-spoon diners around the country, his slim physique just might have some Americans wondering whether he is truly like them.

The candidate has been criticized by opponents for appearing elitist or out of touch with average Americans. A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll conducted in July shows Sen. Obama still lags behind Republican John McCain among white men and suburban women who say they can't relate to his background or perceived values.
 

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Re: Economic models predict clear Obama win in November

How dare he!

Quickly, go tell everybody in your family and neighborhood not to vote for Obama, because y'know, he might actually starts doing something against the economy crisis. As we all know, the night is darkest before the dawn, and the way I see it, we're still in the middle of the night. Give us four, hell, eight more years of GOP leadership and things will definitely start getting better!
Yeah, more or less, the incumbent loses the election when the economy is bad, no matter how brilliant that incumbent was in all other areas. The perfect example was George Bush Sr., who executed a nearly flawless Gulf War campaign that boosted his approval rating to something around 80 percent, if I recall correctly. But because the economy was in a recession, Bill Clinton won the '92 campaign.

(Except for the very technical difference that John McCain isn't an incumbent. But he is a member of the same party as the incumbent. Which is why Obama's "McBush" attacks was so effective.)

So why is it all about the economy?

Perhaps it's because the economy affects all Americans, no matter how seemingly trivial in extent, whereas foreign policy concerns seems remote, especially if you're not in the army.



Now, back to the article......NOT so fast.

Surprisingly, as disadvantageous as it is for the GOP in light of this so-called "recession", which the New York Times and all other center-left media have tried to portray in the gloomest of terms, Obama isn't ahead, by much.


According to USNews, there are 4 reasons why a weak economy, might in fact, be to McCain's benefit.

Even Obama is beginning to realize that he cannot afford to let his grip on the economy slip away from him to McCain, so that now he's indicated reconsidering his position on offshore drilling. Polls show most Americans favor it.

It's amazing how polls can dramatically impact politician's flip-flopping capability.

If only polls would indicate that most Americans overwhelmingly acknowledge the success of the surge, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama flips on that, too.
 

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John McCain, a man of great integrity!

You know, I don't understand why some people are accusing John McCain of being an inflexible old fool. Below is a list of things John McCain has done which proves he is an intelligent man of great integrity who always puts our great nation first!

John McCain promised a clean campaign, based on the issues - but has not stayed that course. He has started running negative attack ads, after saying he had respect for Barack Obama.

John McCain flip-flopped on taxes. He once said he’d never raise taxes. Now - he’s open to raising Social Security taxes.


John McCain flip-flopped on affirmative action. He used support it…now he changed into the wrong direction and supports a measure on the ballot in AZ to end the policy.


John McCain is two-faced on lobbyists. He has constantly said he wants nothing to do with ‘big-moneyed special interests’…but he has taken in $181,000 in donations from lobbyists.


John McCain’s priorities for health insurance companies are flawed. He is all for them covering Viagra, but not birth control.


John McCain is still fixated on the ’surge.’ He doesn’t get that the surge is over - he believes it’s still going on.


John McCain isn’t fit to be commander in chief. He lost five Navy aircraft during his flying career.


John McCain needs a geography lesson. He brags he’s been to Iraq so many times, but he said Iraq borders Pakistan. Look at a map, John….there’s a little country called Iran in between.


John McCain supports the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy in the military. He believes the anti-gay policy is working.


John McCain has slammed Obama for only attending one Afghanistan hearing…but McCain’s even more guilty! The Arizona Senator has not attended any committee hearings on Afghanistan.


John McCain says the war in Iraq is not related to the war in Afghanistan. Barack Obama pointed out that the Senator from Arizona is dead wrong.


John McCain’s top economic advisor thinks the poor economy is just a ‘mental recession.’ Phil Gramm called America a ‘nation of whiners.’


John McCain’s Gas Tax Holiday is a joke. Virtually every economist has shot down McCain’s idea of a gas tax holiday. It just won’t work!


John McCain flip-flops on immigration. First he applauded a clear route to citizenship, now he’s changed to a “fences-first” stance.


John McCain gives us double-talk on Iraq. He says on the one hand, we gotta keep it going with no timetable. Then, more recently, he says we’ll balance the budget by winning the war in Iraq and getting the troops home.


John McCain represents the third term of Karl Rove. Steve Schmidt is the latest person to be at the top of the campaign - another name involved with McCain who worked closely with Karl Rove.


John McCain is taking money from Swift Boat veterans. In 2004, he called them dishonest and dishonorable.


John McCain flip-flopped on swiftboat veterans. In 2004, he condemned the swiftboat veterans, now, he endorses them, with Bud Day back on the scene.


John McCain is a tax cheater. Cindy McCain failed to pay property taxes on time - that is not the type of responsibility that we want in the White House.


John McCain is an opponent of helping rail transit. When he chaired the Senate Commerce Committee, he opposed public financing of Amtrak - a service very important in this day of high fuel prices.


John McCain’s healthcare plan would not help Americans. It would tax your healthcare benefits and leave working families at the mercy of big insurance companies.


John McCain is a fear monger. Adviser Charlie Black suggested another terrorist attack would help McCain and the Republicans win.


John McCain is more of a game show host than a candidate, offering up gimmick after gimmick. First it was the gas tax holiday, but now - he wants taxpayers to give $300 million to whoever develops the next new electric battery. Too bad the Japanese are already five years ahead of the US in developing the next generation battery.


John McCain does not have a good environmental record. The League of Conservation Voters gave him a zero rating when it comes to pro-environment votes.


Cindy McCain criticizes Michelle Obama for not “always” being proud of her country. Guess what - John McCain said the same thing.


John McCain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. Out of 899 graduates, he was ranked 894.


John McCain uses scare tactics. John McCain accuses Barack Obama of having a “September 10″ mentality. We’ve heard this before from George W. Bush. Republicans have NO problem using September 11 for political gain.


John McCain is in favor of offshore drilling for oil. Of course, this is AFTER he was opposed to it. Drilling for oil off the shores of the United States WON’T ease the gas burden.


John McCain was part of the Keating Five. John McCain was part of the five Senators who were tied to dirty deal with Charles Keating.


John McCain doesn’t support prisoner’s rights. The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Gitmo detainees. John McCain says that the ruling “concerns” him.


John McCain doesn’t care about women’s interests. He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade (among other things) - Planned Parenthood gives him a zero lifetime voting record on women’s issues.


John McCain won’t repeal George Bush’s tax cuts. This is another issue that he has flip-flopped on, and his plan will continue to put this country into a deeper budget deficit.


John McCain agrees with Bush’s illegal wiretapping policy outside of FISA. At one point he did disagree with Bush on the subject, but he flip-flopped and now supports the President.


John McCain doesn’t know anything about the economy. He himself said he doesn’t know as much about it as he should.


John McCain voted with George Bush 89% of the time through his administration. Just more proof that if he’s elected, it’s more of the same.


John McCain is a fake campaign finance reformer. Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) presented this reason during his in-studio visit, and believes McCains back-room dealings need to be exposed.


The Supreme Court. John McCain himself has said he wants to appoint clones of Alito and Roberts to the high court. With that, Roe v. Wade and other important decisions will go right out the window.


His bad “comb-over,” that he won’t admit to. He won’t just be honest and admit he’s balding - what else won’t he be honest about?


John McCain supports the war in Iraq. He stated he would stay in Iraq for 100 years.


John McCain will be nothing but a third term of George Bush. He wants to continue the same policies that have failed for the last eight years, as Barack Obama pointed out.


John McCain is too old to run the country. He’ll be 72 this year. Back in 2000, he admitted to PBS’s Jim Lehrer he’s too old to be President!


John McCain does not support the GI Bill. He’s against giving our veterans full scholarships to college upon returning from service.


John McCain has bad judgment related to the people he cozies up to. He was endorsed by, and was good friends with John Hagee - it took him three months to reject the endorsement! What other type of people might he get close to when he’s president?


John McCain doesn’t know Shiite from Shinola. Even Joe Lieberman corrected him when he mixed up Shiites and Sunnis.


John McCain doesn’t want to change anything about our relationship with Cuba. He is attacking Barack Obama’s willingness to meet with Raul Castro.


John McCain will try to stir up war with Iran. We’ve seen this with his recent exchange with Barack Obama, saying we shouldn’t talk - we should just bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.


John McCain’s connection with Lobbyists. Special Interests, Special Interests. Ouch. The prime connection is Thomas Loeffler - who resigned from McCain’s campaign because of his lobbyist connections.
 
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Do you really know John McCain?

I realize that a lot of people don't really know who John McCain is, because he has spent 90% of his campaign talking about Obama. So here's my contribution to a better understanding of the man who is going to be the next president of the US of A.

JOHN MCCAIN - A GREAT MAN

John Sidney McCain III (born August 29, 1936) is the senior United States Senator from Arizona, the presumptive Republican Party nominee in the 2008 presidential election, an old man, and a great man.

In the Republican Party, there are two kinds of great men: those that support the Iraq War but were too cowardly to fight in a war when they had the chance, and, much less common, those that support the Iraq War and did fight in other wars when they had the chance. McCain is the latter kind of great men.

During the Vietnam War, McCain became a naval aviator. In a bombing mission over North Vietnam in 1967, he was shot down and badly injured. He endured five and a half years as a prisoner of war, including periods of torture, before he was released following the Paris Peace Accords in 1973.

In 1982, McCain was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives, and in 1986, he was elected to the U.S. Senate. During his years in the Senate, McCain has essentially been an unthinking, run-of-the-mill right-winger. He managed to establish a reputation, however, as a "maverick" who often "defied orthodoxy." That this is true is testament to the high incidence of great men in the media, an occupation generally considered to have among the highest of GMPRs (great man prevalence rate).

In the late 1980's, McCain became one of the "Keating Five." Some have noted that this sounds like a band. And to the extent that taking payoffs from corrupt savings and loans officials, passing legislation that deregulated the industry and destroyed thousands of lives, and intervening in the investigation of said corrupt savings and loan officials is like playing music, then, yes, they were a band. A very good one.

In order to salvage his career, McCain recreated himself as a campaign-finance reformer. Because of a defect in the media, McCain succeeded. In 2002, the largely useless McCain-Feingold Act was passed.

McCain ran for the Republican nomination in the 2000 presidential election, but was defeated by another great man, George W. Bush. In the 2008 presidential cycle, McCain was joined in the race by a lazy great man, a Mormon great man, a evangelical great man, a libertarian former gynecologist great man and a great man named Giuliani. After the Mormon great man dropped out in February of 2008, McCain became the presumptive nominee.

Early life and military career

Family background and early education

McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at the Coco Solo Air Base in the Panama Canal Zone, then controlled by the United States. Both his father and grandfather were United States Navy admirals, and were in fact the first father-son pair each to achieve four-star admiral rank. Oddly, there is no similar ranking for the level of great men that one has reached. If there were such a system, and if it were, similarly, based on a possible total of five, McCain would be said to have achieved a four-great man rank.

Because McCain was born outside the United States, some mentally challenged right-wing bloggers (or, as they are known, “right-wing bloggers”) have suggested that McCain is therefore not eligible to be president. Unfortunately, they are wrong. The constitution requires only that the president be a "natural born citizen," which the First Congress said included "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States." Therefore, John McCain is, indeed, eligible to save the United States by becoming its president.

Naval training, early assignments, first marriage and children

Like his father and grandfather, McCain enrolled in the United States Naval Academy. There, he earned over 100 demerits. His reaction was that it was "bullshit."

But it was in his off-base activities that McCain truly excelled. According to one classmate, "being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck." It is unclear what being with McCain during his presidency would be like for the nation. Unfortunately, America has no direct experience from which to draw with a president who was a temperamental son of a distinguished military man and who in college was a temperamental great man who liked to party. What could possibly be so dangerous about that?

McCain graduated from the Naval Academy in 1958, ranked 894th out of 899. As historians have noted, there were five people in his class who were actually bigger great men than McCain, but none of them are running for president.

McCain, commissioned an ensign, spent two and a half years training as a naval aviator in Pensacola. There he earned a reputation as a party man, drove a Corvette, dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida," and, as he would later say, "generally misused my good health and youth." But at least when it came to flying, he took his responsibilities seriously.

Just kidding. He didn't care about those either -- he was a below average flyer, and couldn't be bothered to read his aviation manuals. But, as many noted partying experts have asked, what good could possibly come of reading manuals? It's not like one might have a situation in which one's plane would quit while landing and crash into Corpus Christi Bay, or be flying too low in Spain and take out some power lines, or crash while en route to Philadelphia for an Army/Navy football game.

Vietnam operations

In December 1966, McCain was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal, which, in 1967 was assigned to join Operation Rolling Thunder, the bombing campaign against North Vietnam. On October 26, 1967, McCain began his political career by being shot down. He was then held prisoner by the North Vietnamese for seven years. During this time, McCain was also tortured. Such barbaric treatment gave McCain a unique insight into the evil of torture. And though McCain's war injuries left him with limited mobility in his arms, he was still able to pat himself on his back throughout his Senate career for his opposition to the practice. When the Iraq War began, and reports began to appear that the United States has used torture, including waterboarding, on detainees, McCain spoke out.

But in February of 2007, even though he had become the presumptive GOP nominee for president, McCain had still not secured the enthusiastic support of right-wing goons and thugs whose sexual inadequacy has manifested in an extreme love of torture. This group is also sometimes referred to as "The Republican Party."

Therefore, when an Intelligence Authorization Bill came to the Senate floor that would require the intelligence community to abide by the same standards contained in the Army Field Manual, which bans waterboarding, McCain was faced with a choice: make a principled stand consistent with his avowed opposition to torture, or cowardly choose to abandon his principles and suck-up to the right-wing goons and thugs who sexual inadequacy has manifested in an extreme love of torture. McCain chose the latter.

As many whose views of foreign policy are not influenced by sexual inadequacy have noted, aside from the moral reason to not engage in torture, another is the reasonable conclusion that making practices like waterboarding legal also makes it much more likely that other countries will engage in the same practices on American prisoners of war. McCain's son Jimmy is, in fact, in the Marine Corps. On February 14th, 2007, Jimmy returned from Iraq, meaning that McCain's son is now safe from the increased danger of being tortured that McCain's cowardice has placed other U.S. troops under.

Return to United States

After returning to the U.S., McCain was reunited with his wife Carol, who, in a 1969 car accident, had suffered near-death injuries of her own. This had left her four inches shorter and substantially heavier. While stationed at Jacksonville, Florida, McCain began to have extramarital affairs. As he later noted, "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam..." That would distinguish it from his political career.

In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with a teacher from Phoenix named Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, and the daughter of a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor. It is unclear whether the latter detail had any influence over McCain, but the ability to easily secure a keg of Bud -- the King of Beers, brewed by an original all natural process using the choicest hops, rice and best barley malt -- on short notice and at wholesale prices could possibly have seemed like an added enticement to someone who liked to party as much as McCain.

McCain divorced his wife Carol in 1980. McCain and Hensley were married that same year. Unfortunately, the wedding came too early to feature Bud Light, which was introduced in 1982, and is brewed with the finest ingredients for a refreshingly smooth taste.

McCain's children were not happy about the wedding and did not attend, though maybe that was because they do not like the choicest hops and best barley malt. If they feel they are too good for such things, then they do not deserve the King of Beers.

Political career

U.S. Congressman

Now living in Phoenix, McCain set about finding work. In what would later turn out to be good practice for a senate career spent working wealthy players like corrupt savings and loan felon Charles Keating for favors, McCain got a job with his father-in-law. His title was Vice President of Public Relations, probably because it sounded more important than "Goodwill Ambeersador." Here, McCain was tasked with the tough job of schmoozing business people. It was difficult, grueling work, the sort of job that often meant spending six, or even seven hours a day at the grindstone. But it was also the sort of job McCain was uniquely qualified for.

In 1982, a seat came open in Arizona's 1st congressional district. McCain ran, and, after outspending his opponents courtesy of a $167,000 loan his wife made to the campaign, McCain eked out a win.

U.S. Senator

After Barry Goldwater retired in 1986, McCain ran for and won Goldwater's Senate seat. Once in the Senate, McCain soon got into a quarrel with Paul Weyrich. As co-founder of the Moral Majority, Weyrich was a prominent leader of the religious right, and was angry over McCain's defense of President George H. W. Bush's nominee for Secretary of Defense, John Tower, whom the religious right opposed over allegations of heavy drinking and extramarital affairs.

During this time, and up until his run for the presidency, McCain was often at odds with the religious right. Though, as with the issue of torture, the bravery McCain showed in Vietnam disappeared when he was forced to choose between maintaining his principles or sucking up to the worst people in the country.

Keating Five

In the late 1980's McCain finally distinguished himself in the Senate with the help of a man named Charles Keating. The Lincoln Savings and Loan, headed by Keating, had become embroiled in scandal and federal regulators were looking to shut it down and investigate. Keating, who had known McCain since the latter's days as a layabout schmoozer for his father-in-law the Vice President of Public Relations for the Phoenix Budweiser distributor, began looking for a way to get the government to drop the investigation.

Between 1982 and 1987, Keating had given McCain $112,000. Of course, it is possible that Keating had given McCain this money out of the goodness of his heart with no strings attached, simply out of a heartfelt love of the democratic process. It is also possible that R. Kelly just has a healthy interest in helping 16 year-old girls negotiate the rocky shoals of late adolescence.

Directly after two meetings with Keating, McCain called Edwin J. Gray, the chief of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, which was investigating Keating, and requested that Gray ease off the investigation. Gray testified that four other Senators, all of whom were recipients of political donations from Keating, had also contacted him with the same request. These became known as the "Keating Five."

The saddest part of the entire situation, even more sad than the 21,000 mostly elderly people who had their entire life savings completely wiped out, was that it brought the appearance of conflict upon Senator McCain. As McCain said, "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence."

And what a terrible impression that can be. Almost as terrible as working your ass off your entire life, little by little putting enough money away for retirement, and then right before retirement finding out your life savings has been robbed from you and instead of working to try to get your money back, your own senator is busy trying to quash the investigation.

On the positive side, the physical activity and social contact that accompany many minimum wage jobs can be good for seniors. The ones who are still ambulatory, anyway.

A "maverick" senator

Rightly sensing that he had disgraced himself in the Keating Five scandal and that this would hinder his chances to save the country as a hotheaded, dangerously unstable, pandering, angry, very old president, McCain set out to launder his reputation. Since the Keating Five scandal had shown him to be a financially sleazy insider, the way McCain chose to rehabilitate himself was campaign finance.

And so, in 1994, McCain teamed up with Wisconsin Democratic Senator Russ Feingold to introduce the McCain-Feingold Act, a bill that would ostensibly diminish the influence of money in politics by placing limits on so-called "soft money" donations by corporations, union and other institutions. The bill was passed in 2002 and took effect in 2003.

The effort paid off for McCain, and in just a few years the press corps, whose short-term memory falls somewhere between that of a household cat and the Rhesus Macaque monkey (Macaca mulatta), native to Afghanistan, northern India, and southern China, hailed McCain as a good government and campaign finance reformer.

How effective was the act in reducing the influence of money in politics? The answer can be found in a simple experiment that anybody can do. Try it yourself: just say the following phrase out loud: "Hey money, I want you to stop influencing politics!" There, you have now had more influence in diminishing the influence of money in politics than the "Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA, McCain–Feingold Act, Pub.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 81, enacted 2002-03-27)."

A "great" senator

Far from actually being a "maverick," the one word that would accurately describe his time in public life is: "great man." That McCain was able to successfully make himself be thought of as a "maverick" says as much about the press as it does about McCain. That is, one cannot understand how McCain did this without also understanding the delicate psychology of the Washington D. C. press corps.

Most Washington journalists have a deeply internalized sense of self-loathing. They see themselves as cowardly, flaccid, ineffectual, impotent wimps. In this, they're not entirely wrong. They have always secretly admired the asshole jocks who used to push them around in high school. The journalists would console themselves with the soothing affirmation that the assholes were not as smart as they were. They were right, of course, but still, deep down the journalists secretly admired the assholes.

Along comes John McCain -- a great man, but a great man who is nice to them, a great man who comes to back of the plane and jokes around with them and doesn't make them feel unmanly. Why, sometimes, it seemed as if McCain really liked them. A few years of this, and suddenly McCain's not a temperamental, dangerously unstable asshole, he's a "maverick."

But the self-esteem issues of the weakling press notwithstanding, McCain is, in fact, a great man. A great man who wants to be the President of the United States. As a great senator, he the sort of guy who says things like:

• "Only an asshole would put a budget together like this!" (to New Mexico Republican Pete Dominici)

• "I'm calling you a fucking jerk!" (to Iowa Republican Senator Chuck Grassley)

• "Fuck you. I know more about this than anybody in the room." (To Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn)

This is why Senator Dominici said in 2000 that "I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger." It is presumed by this he meant the nuclear trigger.

McCain is also the sort of guy who would tell the following joke:

Q: Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?

A: Her father is Janet Reno.


This is the sort of humor assholes find funny. When he told the joke, Chelsea Clinton was seventeen years old. Some say when you open an attack like this on the looks of someone who did not ask to be thrust into the public eye, you invite similar attacks in your own direction.

In speaking about whether he had ever witnessed McCain's notorious temper problem, former Pennsylvania Republican Senator Rick Santorum said, "I don't know anybody in the Senate who hasn't. Everybody has their McCain story."

And if America elects this temperamental, dangerously unstable, angry old asshole, America will have its own McCain story too.

2000 presidential campaign

In the summer of 1999, McCain came to the conclusion that his power to save the country was too limited in the Senate. So on September 27, 1999 in Nashua, New Hampshire, McCain formally announced he was running for the presidency. The leader in fundraising, establishment party support, and expectations was another temperamental great son of a military man, Texas Governor George W. Bush.

McCain decided to skip Iowa and, on the advice his political consultant, a great man named Mike Murphy, instead went straight to New Hampshire. He traveled in a bus called "The Straight Talk Express." This is presumably because his great consultant Murphy decided that this was a better name than the "Greatness Limited," or the "Awesome Mobile."

On February 1, 2000, McCain won the primary with 49 percent of the vote to Bush's 30 percent. Bush was in trouble and the upcoming South Carolina primary would be crucial.

The fight between Bush and McCain in South Carolina has become known as one of the nastiest and dirties fights in American electoral history. This is especially noteworthy given the fact that, by then, the Republican Party had already established itself as a particularly sleazy institution. Bush's father, George H.W. Bush, had, in fact, won by exploiting the racist "southern strategy," begun by Richard Nixon, and built upon by Ronald Reagan and political strategist Lee Atwater, currently in hell.

Traditionally, the racist strategy was used against Democrats. The South Carolina primary was one of the few times it was used for intra-party purposes.

Days before voting, an anonymous group began a semi-underground smear campaign against McCain. Using push polls, flyers, and emails, the group claimed that McCain had fathered a black child out of wedlock. McCain does, in fact, have a dark-skinned daughter, Bridget. She was adopted from Bangladesh. (Presumably McCain would be angry if someone were to make jokes about Bridget's looks or ponder whether Bridget's father had been Janet Reno, but consistency is rarely something dangerously unstable great men are accused of.)

This was a classic use of the GOP's "southern strategy." The Bush campaign made what is known as a "big show" in denying any connection with these attacks, and said he would fire anybody who ran defamatory push polls. As the country later found out, Bush often says he will fire any aides found to be involved in wrongdoing. This is the sort of thing that passes for a joke in Deke House.

Of those who spread the rumors, McCain said "I believe that there is a special place in hell for people like those." If by "those" he means people who try to cynically exploit racism for political gain, it appears that "people like those" will have to make room for one more asshole. Before the South Carolina race, McCain had said the Confederate flag was "very offensive." But then, when he needed the votes of the racist thugs and goons there, McCain rethought his position, and came to the conclusion that the flag was a "symbol of heritage."

Bush was able to out pander McCain among the racists and won the South Carolina primary. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000. McCain would, however, learn a valuable lesson about pandering to right-wing religious bigots: do it early, and do it completely.

2001–2008

McCain spent the years of the first and second Bush administrations making self-congratulatory shows of "independence" from the Republican party and cultivating the weakling press to keep up his image as a "maverick." It was in these years that McCain laid the groundwork for what would be the classic McCain pattern: speak out against bad people when it doesn't matter, cowardly cave in when it does matter.

Most of the manifestations of McCain's "maverick" streak were confined to domestic policy. Like when he voted against the first of Bush's tax cuts, but later voted to extend them and then said if elected president he would make them permanent. But on foreign policy, McCain has rarely done anything but parrot his fellow temperamental great son of a military man, President Bush.

McCain considers "national security" to be one his strengths. Given the fact that he has yet to be right about any single fact regarding Iraq when it counted, this should tell you something about his prowess in domestic matters. For instance, McCain stated unequivocally that Iraq had substantial weapons of mass destruction, and that Iraq was "a clear and present danger to the United States of America." McCain also claimed that U.S. forces would be greeted as liberators by the Iraqi people.

In April of 2007, after claiming that people were "not getting the full picture" of what was going on in Iraq, McCain made a stroll through an Baghdad market. He said there “are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today.” He did not mention that he was accompanied by one-hundred soldiers, three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships.

Later that same month, McCain was asked about possible military action against Iran. His response was to sing “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” to the melody of the Beach Boys' song "Barbara Ann." Though this was widely criticized at the time, it should be noted, however, that deciding foreign policy based on punning lyrics to Beach Boys songs could not, at least, result in a worse situation than the one the United States finds itself in today.

2008 presidential campaign

McCain announced he was seeking the 2008 Presidential nomination of the Republican Party on the February 28, 2007. He chose a venue that was perfectly suitable to his seriousness as a leader: the Late Show With David Letterman.

Should McCain win, he would be the oldest person ever to assume the Presidency at the initial ascension to office, being 72 years old and surpassing Ronald Reagan, who was 69 years old. Reagan was later diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease and there were questions of whether the disease had begun during his presidency. Though the diseases associated with old age are obviously relevant to McCain's candidacy, he is shielded somewhat from such attacks due to the fact that McCain has been known to be dangerously unstable his entire life.

With no clear front-runner in the race, McCain won the New Hampshire primary on January 8, 2008. He followed this with victories in South Carolina and Florida, after which he became the front-runner and presumptive nominee. The fact that McCain, an unstable, angry old asshole, would find himself coasting to the nomination says much about the rest of the field he was facing. His two main rivals were Mitt Romney, a comically soulless toady whose religion, Mormonism, was once thought to be his weakness but turned out to be the only consistent fact about him, and Rudy Giuliani, who is, according to scientific studies, the most dangerous and insane man ever to run for president.

In the course of winning the nomination and attempting to unite the Republican Party around him, McCain, in accordance with the McCain pattern, has reversed himself on almost every issue on which his reputation as a "maverick" depended.

Though he once called religious bigots like Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance," he now eagerly gets on his knees to fellate them to completion ask for their support. Though he once self-congratulatorily denounced the practice of state-sanctioned torture, he voted against making it explicitly illegal for C.I.A. interrogators. Though he once supported a common-sense immigration reform bill co-sponsored by Ted Kennedy, when asked during a Republican debate in Los Angeles whether he would vote for his own bill, McCain said, "No, I would not." Though he was once Episcopalian, McCain now identifies himself as a Baptist. Fittingly, McCain now supports the teaching of "intelligent design" in schools.

On February 20, 2008, The New York Times reported an affair that McCain had eight years ago with a lobbyist named Vicki Iseman, who looks strangely like McCain's bizarre-looking wife, Cindy.

Though the media focused primarily on the sex between the then 61-year old McCain and the 33 year-old Iseman, which, really, nobody wants to think about too much, the bigger issue was the favors McCain did for his lobbyist girlfriend. McCain sent two letters to the Federal Communications Commission on behalf of one of Iseman's clients. The intercession was considered so egregious by the FCC chairman that he rebuked McCain for it.

Predictably, the response of McCain wasn't to come clean about the affair and the sleazy intervention, or even a pledge to stick to more traditional favors and gifts for his girlfriends, like fancy chocolates or jewelry, or a bath with rose petals, or just a hand-written "coupon" for a night in together. That can be fun. But instead, McCain attacked the Times and immediately used the entire episode as a fundraising opportunity in an email sent out to his gullible supporters.

In short, if McCain does not win the presidency, it will not be because he failed to show the requisite cowardice in ingratiating himself to the goonish and thuggish base of the Republican party. His reputation among the press as a "maverick" will, however, stand forever.
 
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Re: John McCain, a man of great integrity!

you've been reading way too much Huffington Post or the Daily Kos. I've read several of these allegations on such websites.

Too bad most of these allegations are either only half-truths, taken-out-of-context, or outright falsehoods. I cannot take any of this seriously.
 

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Let's keep one-sided camp bashing to a minimum, hm? I watch the news daily, I don't need an extra dose of spin while browsing the forums.
 

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In short, if McCain does not win the presidency, it will not be because he failed to show the requisite cowardice in ingratiating himself to the goonish and thuggish base of the Republican party.
This post is full of hate, it needs so much editing for it to appear less hateful towards the Republican Party.

You don't see me bashing Democrats for the sake of bashing, but your posts as of late has gone too far. At least be a little more subtle about it, perhaps I'll be less offended by your comments.

On February 20, 2008, The New York Times reported an affair that McCain had eight years ago with a lobbyist named Vicki Iseman, who looks strangely like McCain's bizarre-looking wife, Cindy.

Though the media focused primarily on the sex between the then 61-year old McCain and the 33 year-old Iseman, which, really, nobody wants to think about too much, the bigger issue was the favors McCain did for his lobbyist girlfriend. McCain sent two letters to the Federal Communications Commission on behalf of one of Iseman's clients. The intercession was considered so egregious by the FCC chairman that he rebuked McCain for it.
And I've read that article by the New York Times, and you make it seem as though it is a fact.

The Times have failed to support their theory with any hard evidence, and you know that. Most of their suspicions were circumstantial evidence at best, and could be dismissed as merely a smear tactic, as is typical to happen during election season.

That's just one example of the many lies you're perpetrating in so many of your posts.

Though he once called religious bigots like Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance," he now eagerly gets on his knees to fellate them to completion ask for their support.
Must we take you seriously for calling the likes of Falwell, as "bigots", when you yourself have exhibited a propensity for bigotry?


Keating Five

In the late 1980's McCain finally distinguished himself in the Senate with the help of a man named Charles Keating. The Lincoln Savings and Loan, headed by Keating, had become embroiled in scandal and federal regulators were looking to shut it down and investigate. Keating, who had known McCain since the latter's days as a layabout schmoozer for his father-in-law the Vice President of Public Relations for the Phoenix Budweiser distributor, began looking for a way to get the government to drop the investigation.

Between 1982 and 1987, Keating had given McCain $112,000. Of course, it is possible that Keating had given McCain this money out of the goodness of his heart with no strings attached, simply out of a heartfelt love of the democratic process. It is also possible that R. Kelly just has a healthy interest in helping 16 year-old girls negotiate the rocky shoals of late adolescence.

Directly after two meetings with Keating, McCain called Edwin J. Gray, the chief of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, which was investigating Keating, and requested that Gray ease off the investigation. Gray testified that four other Senators, all of whom were recipients of political donations from Keating, had also contacted him with the same request. These became known as the "Keating Five."

The saddest part of the entire situation, even more sad than the 21,000 mostly elderly people who had their entire life savings completely wiped out, was that it brought the appearance of conflict upon Senator McCain. As McCain said, "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence."

And what a terrible impression that can be. Almost as terrible as working your ass off your entire life, little by little putting enough money away for retirement, and then right before retirement finding out your life savings has been robbed from you and instead of working to try to get your money back, your own senator is busy trying to quash the investigation.

On the positive side, the physical activity and social contact that accompany many minimum wage jobs can be good for seniors. The ones who are still ambulatory, anyway.
Uhmm....the Ethics Committee that investigated this scandal found McCain not guilty of any wrongdoing, and that he had at best, a minimal role, if any, in the alleged scandal...did you forget to mention that?

And since you have so much hatred for the Republican party, why didn't you mention that out of the five Senators accused of this scandal, four of them were Democrats? That might have been an inconvenient fact, I suppose.


I'm disappointed, first of all, that John McCain was at all "associated" with Charles Keating (just as Obama was associated with Reverend Wright whom he should not have been associated with, in the first place). But let's be glad that both candidates, McCain and Obama, respectively, have denounced their past associations with these kind of reprehensible people, as they should.

(I've actually gave Obama a lot of credit for this, in my earlier posts.)

John McCain should have definitely known better, and I fault him for that. But let's be clear with the facts so that we don't mislead: McCain was found innocent, have not broken any rules or law, and played an insignificant role in the accusations leveled against him. There was simply no clear evidence, whatsoever.

But even so, McCain confessed of this unfortunate chapter in his life as being "wrong" and something he regrets.

Yet you write an entire section titled as "Keating Five", deliberately omitting the most crucial facts of the matter, that McCain was found innocent, which is disingenuous to say the least.

The New York Times tried to dig up this old story during the Republican primaries in a futile attempt to smear him, and it didn't work.

I've already cited two examples of your dishonesty, you already have lost credibility.



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Hmm.....I found this.
 
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