Discussion Unpopular Opinions

[McNuss]

WCI is the best post timeskip arc so far.

Fujitora is an asshole and as worse as the things that he is trying to stop. Way worse than Akainu.

Luffy will not marry Hancock.

Trafalgar Law is super boring.

Sanji is only a mid-tier character. He will never be top tier.

Garp is a hypocrite. All talk, zero action. Can't keep promises and can't educate children. Such a piece of trash.

Smoker is by far the coolest marine character and not trash

Flashbacks are cool and always a highlight.

There is no power inflation and characters don't get stronger during or after fights unless explicitly mentioned.

Vice Admirals are strong.

Yonko and Admirals are roughly equal. "Yonko Commanders" can't compare at all with either of them.

Colorspread secrets are not a thing.

Names should never be translated into English in stories where character names are drawn from multiple languages. Breaks immersion.

Germa 66 are not cool

Luffy will not be Yonko level end of Wano arc.

 

[woefdram]

Chopper and Franky (and arguably Nami) have added absolutely nothing to the crew/story since their introductory arc

 

[Pirate Queen]

Are we supposed to discuss other people's unpopular opinions or just list unpopular opinions we have seen and feel

 

[woefdram]

I have 2 categories ( combat vs noncombat)

1.Roger was not the Strongest
2. Shanks<Mihawk
3. Sanji = Zoro
4. Luffy >Katakuri
5. Luffy isnt a Yonko (despite having everything that makes one a Yonko)
6. Kaido = Big Mom
7. Mihawk is only 1st Commander Tier
8. Garp > Akainu
9. Kidd = Luffy
10. Gorosei > Admirals
11. Enma is just a short cut for Zoro to be able to cut Kaido without any real training
12. Zoro hasn't fought a single elite swordsman whereas Luffy has


Non Combat
1.One Piece is just a Poneglyph
2.Robin knew about Sabo and never told Luffy
3.Sabo's entire existence devalued Ace's death
4. Ace should have lived
5. Im-sama's introduction came too late in the manga
6. Kidd is trash and no where close Luffy
7. Zoro begging the WSS to train him was sorry.
8. Jinbe should have already been with the crew for a while now
9. Sanji's nose bleed gag was handled poorly
10. Sanji's Raid suit is an amazing upgrade for him being the only Strawhat without a tool to help him (DF, Swords, Tech.)
11. BM's food craze and amnesia was overdone and devalued her as a top tier

Yes to #3... Sabo still being alive was some proper Coronation Street/Days of our Lives bullcrap

 

[Pirate Queen]

And to clarify, I've added unpopular opinions I've seen discussed on top of my own. So I'm not saying the things ive listed as my own beliefs

 

[McNuss]

Are we supposed to discuss other people's unpopular opinions or just list unpopular opinions we have seen and feel

Discussion only without criticism I guess?

 

[woefdram]

Are we supposed to discuss other people's unpopular opinions or just list unpopular opinions we have seen and feel

Both I think. Why do you think Jinbe having to be with the crew is an unpopular opinion? I am fully with you that him not being there been dragged out long enough

 

[Pirate Queen]

Both I think. Why do you think Jinbe having to be with the crew is an unpopular opinion? I am fully with you that him not being there been dragged out long enough

Because many feel it would unbalance the power balance of Luffy Zoro Sanji. I dont.

I think power wise it goes
Luffy
Jinbe
Zoro>=Sanji

Many cant handle anyone being above Zpro or Sanji and so it is very widely argued.

I wish Jinbe had joined after WCI

Also many feel like Jinbe is so strong that many of their dire situations shouldn't be as dire with Jinbe involved.

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OH ANOTHER UNPOPULAR OPINION!!!!

Jinbe should be the 1st Mate of the Strawhats over Zoro.

Jinbe is far more experienced, has the power to back up the position, and is widely respected by other big players in the NW.

 

[woefdram]

Because many feel it would unbalance the power balance of Luffy Zoro Sanji. I dont.

I think power wise it goes
Luffy
Jinbe
Zoro>=Sanji

Many cant handle anyone being above Zpro or Sanji and so it is very widely argued.

I wish Jinbe had joined after WCI

Also many feel like Jinbe is so strong that many of their dire situations shouldn't be as dire with Jinbe involved.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 15, 2020 ---

OH ANOTHER UNPOPULAR OPINION!!!!

Jinbe should be the 1st Mate of the Strawhats over Zoro.

Jinbe is far more experienced, has the power to back up the position, and is widely respected by other big players in the NW.

I'm not a fan of hierarchy/power level debates, because I don't think the story has every really made a thing out of it. So for me Jinbe joining is just someone balancing out the crew in terms of experience and a powerful asset for the new world.

New nakama have never joined based on strength, but rather on how their presence complements the crew.

Jinbe ticks all the boxes to be a great new nakama.

To use an unpopular comparison: if a football team has some amazing people up front, does that mean they can only have a mediocre midfielder?

 

[catagon87]

Chopper and Franky (and arguably Nami) have added absolutely nothing to the crew/story since their introductory arc

You could argue that Nami was crucial in the Cracker fight! Lol. Assuming you mean that Franky hasn't been useful post-creating the Thousand Sunny. I did get a lot of enjoyment out of watching him obliterate Baby 5 and Buffalo 2v1, and destroying the SMILE factory.

 

[King Moe]

I'd disagree on sabo. One way or the other his presence has been felt in the story for a decent while. Not sure of why ace's tatoo being more than cosmetic would ruin it. Then again I don't get why any reasonable human being would ever do anything as inane as permanently staining their skin so what do I know.

Ace for ace... yeah, he is overrated an he lacks feats. Unfortunately he relied too much on his fruit and by all appearances his haki was underdeveloped.

My unpopular opinion would be.... As far as I can tell, katakuri. He sucks, everything he did in the WCI arc was nonsense and there was never any reason for it to happen. There was no reason for luffy to pursue a fight with him since luffy could have just stranded him in the mirror world. Oda spent way too much time drawing characters squealing in a near orgasm state how cool katakuri was instead of showing us katakuri being cool. WCI is the worst arc in the entirety of the series... Katakuri managed to be a stain in an arc where one of the main plot points was sanji baking a plot cake.

We have poll on this forum and many disagree with you on nature of WCI Being Middle Tier and Top 3 more. Points were needed and you mislead yourself on themes of the arc when it was more similar to Impel-Down style, not one about fighting to it's core.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 15, 2020 ---

WCI is the best post timeskip arc so far.

Fujitora is an asshole and as worse as the things that he is trying to stop. Way worse than Akainu.

Luffy will not marry Hancock.

Trafalgar Law is super boring.

Sanji is only a mid-tier character. He will never be top tier.

Garp is a hypocrite. All talk, zero action. Can't keep promises and can't educate children. Such a piece of trash.

Smoker is by far the coolest marine character and not trash

Flashbacks are cool and always a highlight.

There is no power inflation and characters don't get stronger during or after fights unless explicitly mentioned.

Vice Admirals are strong.

Yonko and Admirals are roughly equal. "Yonko Commanders" can't compare at all with either of them.

Colorspread secrets are not a thing.

Names should never be translated into English in stories where character names are drawn from multiple languages. Breaks immersion.

Germa 66 are not cool

Luffy will not be Yonko level end of Wano arc.

Lol not top tier yet Sanji is first of Alliance to beat credible foe in Wano and facing Drake soon after. Thinking that going to disappoint that Sanji won't be stronger through course of the series as Oda thinks opposite and even stated he is top tier in databooks. Just saying.

 

[animeangryfan4]

Big Mom will die, as will Kaido.
Sabo is a good character, people shigh expectation though are what are wrong
Oda hates Sanjis character, otherwise he would not give him such bad treatment.
Almost all main male characters have voices that never fully will mature.
Tony Tony Chopper has the wrong first person prounce in japanese.
Jibei and teh Sun Pirates survied Big Mom.
The Grand Fleet will aid in Wano.
Sanji and Zoro will have Conquerer Haki.
Robin will awaken her hakie

 

[kkck]

We have poll on this forum and many disagree with you on nature of WCI Being Middle Tier and Top 3 more. Points were needed and you mislead yourself on themes of the arc when it was more similar to Impel-Down style, not one about fighting to it's core.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jan 15, 2020 ---

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Thats for confirming my opinion is unpopular, i was really worried about that for a second.

As for the bold part... that is kinda exactly my complaint. With there being no justification whatsoever for luffy to fight katakuri for instance. So...

 

[kkck]

Oh, another one:

Jinbe was eaten by big mom.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Thats for confirming my opinion is unpopular, i was really worried about that for a second.

As for the bold part... that is kinda exactly my complaint. With there being no justification whatsoever for luffy to fight katakuri for instance. So...

Question, if Luffy hadn't of held up the man that could predict the future and joined Big Mom in chasing the Strawhats... How would they have escaped? Katakuri would have predicted every move the Strawhats made and cut them off before it even happened.

Not arguing just asking your thoughts on it.

 

[kkck]

Question, if Luffy hadn't of held up the man that could predict the future and joined Big Mom in chasing the Strawhats... How would they have escaped? Katakuri would have predicted every move the Strawhats made and cut them off before it even happened.

Not arguing just asking your thoughts on it.

That's not the point i am making. The point i am making is that luffy had multiple opportunities to simply leave katakuri stranded and helpless in the mirror world. All luffy would have had to do is not let brule go free. Instead luffy actively pursued the fight even though he had other priorities. Luffy fought katakuri not because it was necessary but rather because oda needed an excuse to give luffy a powerup.

 

[Pirate Queen]

That's not the point i am making. The point i am making is that luffy had multiple opportunities to simply leave katakuri stranded and helpless in the mirror world. All luffy would have had to do is not let brule go free. Instead luffy actively pursued the fight even though he had other priorities. Luffy fought katakuri not because it was necessary but rather because oda needed an excuse to give luffy a powerup.

I see. That makes more sense. I too agree it should have been handled differently

 

[hokageji]

Ace is overrated. We never really saw a big feat from him at all, he got destroyed by BB, killed in mere seconds after he was released and jeah. He tied with Jimbei on Land, while he was a logia.

Oh comeon, he's the coolest character ever.......

now i see why its unpopular.....

Chopper and Franky (and arguably Nami) have added absolutely nothing to the crew/story since their introductory arc

They didnt, the only people who've really made a difference is Usopp and Brooks...

I think power wise it goes
Luffy
Jinbe
Zoro>=Sanji

i dont think this is up for debate by large sections... i can see a lot of people agreeing to this....

Oh, another one:

Jinbe was eaten by big mom.

Lol, that sounds like something i've said in the past, it does sound ridiculous though.... If Jinbei isn't Jinbei, then no point having him around in the crew either....
He is the helmsmen of the crew.

The point i am making is that luffy had multiple opportunities to simply leave katakuri stranded and helpless in the mirror world. All luffy would have had to do is not let brule go free. Instead luffy actively pursued the fight even though he had other priorities. Luffy fought katakuri not because it was necessary but rather because oda needed an excuse to give luffy a powerup.

I agree with this... In fact, i wasnt impressed with Luffy vs Katakuri fight... Katakuri was cool and all, i liked his fighting style but it just didn't add up plotwise.

 

[Pirate Queen]

i dont think this is up for debate by large sections... i can see a lot of people agreeing to this....

It's not up for debate until the Sanji/Zoro divas arrive lol

 

[nik87]

I'll correct those power lvls: Zoro>Luffy>Jinbe>Sanjino=Franky=Chopper