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Gildarts has had sex with countless women, whereas Jellal can't even be with a woman that he likes and likes him back. Jellal sucks


More than power of emotional asspull 👿
 

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Well technically Jellal did do better against acno than gildarts did lol
As much as I want it to be true, Acnologia was jobbing. I mean then you can argue that Makarov did more than Gildarts when he fought on tenrou
 

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DF wouldn't have killed Zeref. It just blew up his body to particles. Zeref would survive this, but you don't have to kill Zeref to beat him up. Most likely, if he didn't have Fairy Heart, he'd be out for just as long as when Ultear beat him on Tenrou.

Also, Dragon Force isn't a strict 2-3x amplification. That's just how it felt to Natsu when he used it in Oracion Seis. Dragon Force makes you stronger by dragonizing your body. The more dragonized you become, the more powerful you become. When Natsu used it in Oracion Seis, the dragonization only covered small patches on his face. When Natsu used it in Tartaros, the dragon force had progressed significantly to small patches all over his body. When he used it against Zeref, his entire left side was dragonized. When he had it after eating Ignai's flames, both his arms were dragonized.

Jellal is actually better than Gildarts at a lot of things. Flying, variety of spells, leadership, has more organs and real limbs, and screentime.

But power is not one of those things
Lol. I can agree with this.
 

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1.zeref is canon fodder i have never seen any other character in any show/comic that has been an unimpressive/pathetic villain in my life

2.natsu isn’t that great of a MC
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In terms of a fight & character
I’m curious about the fight part I’m not gonna debate it cuz this isn’t the thread to do so I just wanna hear why is it cause he is the most versatile/talented(imo) in the show?
 

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DF wouldn't have killed Zeref. It just blew up his body to particles. Zeref would survive this, but you don't have to kill Zeref to beat him up. Most likely, if he didn't have Fairy Heart, he'd be out for just as long as when Ultear beat him on Tenrou.

Also, Dragon Force isn't a strict 2-3x amplification. That's just how it felt to Natsu when he used it in Oracion Seis. Dragon Force makes you stronger by dragonizing your body. The more dragonized you become, the more powerful you become. When Natsu used it in Oracion Seis, the dragonization only covered small patches on his face. When Natsu used it in Tartaros, the dragon force had progressed significantly to small patches all over his body. When he used it against Zeref, his entire left side was dragonized. When he had it after eating Ignai's flames, both his arms were dragonized.



Lol. I can agree with this.
The Tartaros dragon force design was really different from the others and honestly was better.
 

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1.zeref is canon fodder i have never seen any other character in any show/comic that has been an unimpressive/pathetic villain in my life

2.natsu isn’t that great of a MC
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I’m curious about the fight part I’m not gonna debate it cuz this isn’t the thread to do so I just wanna hear why is it cause he is the most versatile/talented(imo) in the show?
Versatile & I consider him a lot faster
 

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I was joking. I know acno wasn't trying.
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Unpopular opinion: Dragon force isn't that good. Nobody has really won a fight solely because of it. When natsu first used it Jellal wasn't put down by his initial assault and was about to blast him away with abyss break. Had it not been for Erza injuring Jellal earlier Natsu probably would have lost. The next time natsu uses it against zero, it's described as only a 2-3x power boost. And even with that natsu isn't able to take the advantage in the fight and still gets overwhelmed by zero's magic. Natsu needed to finally use flame of emotion to get the boost he needed to win. Sting and rogue...... i don't think I need to go into details there. Wendy's dragon force also wasn't able to put down ezel in her initial assault and her secret art was outright nulled. It wasn't until she wished to have strength like Natsu that she got an emotional boost to beat ezel. Natsu wasn't able to do much damage to mard geer in his dragon force and could only act as a distraction while gray prepared his arrow. Even against zeref I doubt that attack natsu did would have put him down even without FH. Zeref has been trying to die for so many years and if all it took was destroying his body, he could have just emptied all his mp and jumped in a volcano. Zeref was probably just trying to flex his time powers. And in hte end Natsu needed his strongest flame of emotion to take zeref down. The mode doesn't have that good of a track record.
Tbh nobody in fairy tail solely wins a fight based on power ups it’s either to do with them being super strong or just nakama power.
 

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Gildarts has had sex with countless women, whereas Jellal can't even be with a woman that he likes and likes him back. Jellal sucks


More than power of emotional asspull 👿
Jellal probably scored a lot when he was a villain.

But current ('good') Jellal is fucking pathetic lmao
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I was joking. I know acno wasn't trying.
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Unpopular opinion: Dragon force isn't that good. Nobody has really won a fight solely because of it. When natsu first used it Jellal wasn't put down by his initial assault and was about to blast him away with abyss break. Had it not been for Erza injuring Jellal earlier Natsu probably would have lost. The next time natsu uses it against zero, it's described as only a 2-3x power boost. And even with that natsu isn't able to take the advantage in the fight and still gets overwhelmed by zero's magic. Natsu needed to finally use flame of emotion to get the boost he needed to win. Sting and rogue...... i don't think I need to go into details there. Wendy's dragon force also wasn't able to put down ezel in her initial assault and her secret art was outright nulled. It wasn't until she wished to have strength like Natsu that she got an emotional boost to beat ezel. Natsu wasn't able to do much damage to mard geer in his dragon force and could only act as a distraction while gray prepared his arrow. Even against zeref I doubt that attack natsu did would have put him down even without FH. Zeref has been trying to die for so many years and if all it took was destroying his body, he could have just emptied all his mp and jumped in a volcano. Zeref was probably just trying to flex his time powers. And in hte end Natsu needed his strongest flame of emotion to take zeref down. The mode doesn't have that good of a track record.
That's how almost every fight works man. DF doesn't ensure voctory, but all DF except twin Dragons' allowed the user to at least put up a fight or buy time, instead of getting outright stomped
 

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1.zeref is canon fodder i have never seen any other character in any show/comic that has been an unimpressive/pathetic villain in my life

2.natsu isn’t that great of a MC
cant figure out what is unpopular here :err
 

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Meh that's not good enough for a powerup that's hyped to make the ds as strong as an actual dragon. You'd expect something like that to completely dominate in fights but alot of times ,especially in that zero fight, it alone barely made a difference.
Natsu went from being a fodder to actually putting up a high-extreme diff fight against Zero. That's not barely any difference.

Natsu went from being not even able to comprehend Jellal's movements, to actually landing quite a few hits and eventually beating him (tho Jellla would've likely won if not for Erza's slash)

LFD Natsu + twin dragons were being no diff'd by BASE Mard. DF Natsu managed to distract Etherious Mard long enough for Gray to prepare and land the attack.

DF Natsu actually managed to disintegrate Zeref with an attack.

How exactly is DF not impressive, lol.
I'm glad that it didn't end up completely dominating the opponent, that would've been boring lol.
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cant figure out what is unpopular here :err
Lots of people (not in this forum) think that Zeref is a great villain lmao.
 

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Some that came to my mind:

-Acnologia was better as a non-talking dragon than with the personality Mashima gave to him.
-Flare is the hottest girl of the series, closely followed by Ultear.
-Ichiya is a legit good character outside of his comedic relief moments.
-Mard Geer is easily the best antagonist of the series, way better than what Zeref and Acnologia ended being. Torafuzar was also a decent bad guy, even if he was a minor villain.
-While Tenrou island arc had some questionable moments and it marked the decadence of the series for me, I don't consider it as bad as other people do, and I think the ending of the arc was legit good.
-Minerva shouldn't have been redeemed. Same for Flare. They were better as antagonists.
-Even if I don't hate the ship, Gajeel x Levy will always be tainted for me since Gajeel beating her and her teammates, then crucifying them back when he was a villain was a bit too much.
-Ivan should have replaced Wall as a member of the Spriggan 12. That would had made the final solo fight of Laxus in the series more meaningful and would have given closure to the Ivan's plotline and would have explained too why Obra was in Ravel Tail, even if Mashima would have probably screwed it like he did with the rest of the Alvarez arc.
-The fight of Erza and Bisca against Ajeel was the best fight of the Alvarez arc.
-The Key of the Starry Sky arc filler was enjoyable.
-The plot twist regarding August was pretty good, just happens that Mashima wasted it.
-Ichiya x Anna is the best ship of Fairy Tail.
 
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got a couple too:
  • Zeref is one of the best villains in anime, tragic characters haven’t always been done right but I like how his story unfolded even if his end could of been better. It just shows you don’t have to an edgy, take over the world villain to be interesting. In the end everything dude did was for myself and his Neo Eclipse was literally the perfect summary of his life. One of my favs ever
  • Acnologia backstory was good enough, especially after seeing Dragon Cry and the anime dive into it more. Sonya’s role in FT’s story was surprisingly so much more important than I thought (good thing). But he just wasn’t interesting at all outside of being cool and a dragon. His legend was more interesting than his character, boring af, power got to his head and became a dry figure that nobody can like or sympathize with
  • Laxus is the most overrated character, literally his character is the exact opposite reason what makes Jellal 1000x better and more complex
  • Shipping/Shippers in FT is trash now, I still like romance in general it’s just boring. Gajeel and Levy having a kid on the way was cool to see, but watching people still debate them online or under hiro’s tweets even though they know in the back of their minds that shit isn’t happening is hilarious and sad af
  • Fans are pretty stupid when it comes to power scaling, most it all makes sense but it’s stupid all together when I care more for story/characters
  • Erza is a lot better battle wise and entertainment wise in 100YQ than she ever was in the original
  • Spriggan 12 remind the coolest villains in the story from onset, just wasn’t handled to their potential. Still remember chapter 494 lol one of the best I’ve seen since Naruto Pain arc
  • Oracion Seis forming into CS after Jellal defeated was iconic, best move Hiro made
  • Dragon Gods becoming more than one liner from God Serena and August made the lore of FT super interesting
  • Them escaping Acnologia is even better since it shows how tactical they were. Also all them not edgy revive the dragon age like Animus is a great move
  • Minerva is prob the hottest character in the series, 2nd is Angel. Minerva’s character was really well done and Territory is a dope magic
  • Tenrou Island was an ok overall arc
  • GMG is one of the best tourney arcs, reminded me of DBZ when I first started FT
  • Alvarez arc only sucked ass after Universe One, still had some memorable moments
  • Avatar arc was fun even though it was the predictable post time skip arc we’ve seen from the Big 3 era
  • Irene’s pseudo revival/new body intrigue >>>>>>> Makarov stupid ass fake death. One of the worst decisions in FT even tho I read that Hiro did it cause of Makarov’s voice actor
  • Fans of Lucy who complain about Lucy are stupid, she does a lot even if she’s not as active fighting
 

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  1. it should have been gray and Natsu vs Jellal in the tower of heavens arc being that they both see Erza as a big sister
  2. The GMG arc would be an all time fan favorite arc if it wasn’t for the Natsu vs sting and rogue fight and the end of sting/cat storyline.
  3. After all these years, Laxus still has not done anything redeemable enough to be accepted back in fairy tail after the horrible stuff he did in battle of fairy tail arc.
  4. Wendy going dragon force for the first time is the best part of Tartarus arc.
  5. How Wendy is used and Erza fights are the biggest reason that fairy tail gets so much slack.
  6. Hiro Mashima is happy he brought Lisanna back into the story only because it’s the only way he can write Mirajane to lose.
  7. The key of starry sky arc is the most boring arc of the series followed by Edolus.
  8. Fairy tail still being the strongest guild even after 7 years away is biggest asspull in the series.
  9. Achnologia’s backstory was fine and wasn’t as bad as people say
  10. Hiro Mashima is a top tier story teller but should have let someone else write his fights cause they are ruining his story.
  11. Fairy tail has the worst and most inconsistent power scale system in all of shonen
  12. If you take away his fight with baccus, Elfman is the biggest waste and most useless character on the show
  13. Happy should have been given a power boost post 1 yr time skip. I’m not talking anything crazy just something like he has increased his flying speed by 10x
  14. END vs fairy tail should have happened in alverez
 
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