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We are all assuming it's love but do you think it could be something else, despite the obvious implication?
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This "But you give Elizabeth a lot already, don't you?"
"…that which you never did to me." If Diane said that it wouldn't been out of place.
Well, she is drunk.
 

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We are all assuming it's love but do you think it could be something else, despite the obvious implication?
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Well, she is drunk.
It's obviously love/ attention but don't you think we should take Elizabeth age into the equation when we talk about what kind of love because Merlin is basically jealous of a 6 year old Elizabeth getting 2 much gifts.
 

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It's obviously love/ attention but don't you think we should take Elizabeth age into the equation when we talk about what kind of love because Merlin is basically jealous of a 6 year old Elizabeth getting 2 much gifts.
This is one of the reasons why I asked this. But since she is drunk, I might be overthinking.
 

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Did you guys forget that Merlin and Meliodas knew each other for more than 3000 years and probably even longer than Mel knew/loved Elizabeth and her later reincarnations?

I could easily see this going two ways
1) Merlin legitimately loved or at the very least had a crush on Meliodas in the past. Wouldn't be weird at all considering how much time they likely spent together and how close they are/how much they know about each other.
2) Merlin and Mel always were just (close) friends and she's teasing him about how freaking much Mel does for Ellie and is amused by his attempts to make the little girl happy.

Personally I'm leaning more towards the former, mainly because love is a pretty important theme within the series, but like I said, it could go either way but knowing me and my predictions it's gonna be something else entirely :P
 

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Did you guys forget that Merlin and Meliodas knew each other for more than 3000 years and probably even longer than Mel knew/loved Elizabeth and her later reincarnations?

I could easily see this going two ways
1) Merlin legitimately loved or at the very least had a crush on Meliodas in the past. Wouldn't be weird at all considering how much time they likely spent together and how close they are/how much they know about each other.
2) Merlin and Mel always were just (close) friends and she's teasing him about how freaking much Mel does for Ellie and is amused by his attempts to make the little girl happy.

Personally I'm leaning more towards the former, mainly because love is a pretty important theme within the series, but like I said, it could go either way but knowing me and my predictions it's gonna be something else entirely :P
If Merlin fell in love with Prime Mel then she seen Prime Mel in action with the Ten Commandments so why was she so sacred about Prime Mel coming back & why does she hate the Ten Commandments now? Why will she follow Meliodas 2 being good when she fell in love with Prime Mel?

If its number 2 what's with the apology it's like Merlin said something that she shouldn't have said between them.
 
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Well, she is drunk.
Still makes Merlin words pathetic been 3000 years get fucking over it. Since as we all know your true feelings come out when your drunk.
 

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Did you guys forget that Merlin and Meliodas knew each other for more than 3000 years and probably even longer than Mel knew/loved Elizabeth and her later reincarnations?

I could easily see this going two ways
1) Merlin legitimately loved or at the very least had a crush on Meliodas in the past. Wouldn't be weird at all considering how much time they likely spent together and how close they are/how much they know about each other.
2) Merlin and Mel always were just (close) friends and she's teasing him about how freaking much Mel does for Ellie and is amused by his attempts to make the little girl happy.

Personally I'm leaning more towards the former, mainly because love is a pretty important theme within the series, but like I said, it could go either way but knowing me and my predictions it's gonna be something else entirely :P
Reasons to think she is referring to romantic love(IMO):
  1. The first Elizabeth was Mel's lover.
  2. Merlin fell in love and confessed at least once in her life.
  3. Nakaba didn't directly answer to the fan question.
  4. He only added this page in the volume, as if he was hesitating to reveal it the first time he drew that story.
  5. The way it's written, it seems obvious.

Reasons to think it's not:
  1. The current Elizabeth is a kid so it seems a bit out of place. But it's Nakaba so... :eyeroll
  2. They have a good relationship and it's implied they allied during the war at some point.


I think it depends mainly on Merlin's personality back then. We know that Meliodas changed because of Elizabeth. Maybe Merlin had her "dark period" and fell for the cruel Mel that she fears even now?
 

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The current Elizabeth is a kid so it seems a bit out of place. But it's Nakaba so... :eyeroll
I'm starting to doubt the romantic aspect because of this reason, but as you said, it's Nakaba.
 

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So the female and male goddesses facing each other. Is it possible that it's the Queen Goddess and Demon King themselves?

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If Merlin fell in love with Prime Mel then she seen Prime Mel in action with the Ten Commandments so why was she so sacred about Prime Mel coming back & why will does she hate the Ten Commandments now. Why will she she follow Meliodas 2 being good when she fell in love with Prime Mel.

If its number 2 what's with the apology it's like Merlin said something that she shouldn't have said between them.
Well we know Merlin knew prime Meliodas because out of all the Sins she's known him the longest. So that means she known Mel longer than Gowther who was a Commandment when Mel lead them. As for why she "fears" supreme demon Mel returning because he's a ruthless powerful fucking evil demon. Then you add in the fact Merlin most likely knows about the Demon King regaining his strength every time Mel dies. Which will lead to the Demon King revival well that just bad news for everyone. As for the Commandments Merlin doesn't hate them in fact she got excited about them. 1 of the few times we've seen a Merlin loses her calm collected persona.
 

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So the female and male goddesses facing each other. Is it possible that it's the Queen Goddess and Demon King themselves?

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Well we know Merlin knew prime Meliodas because out of all the Sins she's known him the longest. So that means she known Mel longer than Gowther who was a Commandment when Mel lead them. As for why she "fears" supreme demon Mel returning because he's a ruthless powerful fucking evil demon. Then you add in the fact Merlin most likely knows about the Demon King regaining his strength every time Mel dies. Which will lead to the Demon King revival well that just bad news for everyone. As for the Commandments Merlin doesn't hate them in fact she got excited about them. 1 of the few times we've seen a Merlin loses her calm collected persona.
I know Meliodas has known Merlin the longest but when I wrote that I was wondering exactly how old Merlin was when she met Meliodas.

If she fell in love with Prime Meliodas him being "a ruthless powerful fucking evil demon" is irrelevant she wouldn't be afraid because that is the guy she fell in love with.

TBH I doubt Merlin knows about the DK revival being connected to Meliodas death because if she did she would of been more caution about sending Meliodas 2 the Commandments or about taking his power 10 years ago because a weakened Meliodas could of easily die in those 10 years the Sin was separated.

In fact Meliodas being weakened for those 10 years is the reason why the Ten Commandments got released in the first place if Meliodas had his power then he wouldn't have lost 2 Helbram & he would of still had the sword handle.
 
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The cover for the volume 25 is out:

Source? Well, every retail website. And I thank Rai for putting it up on NF.
 

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Is Dolor's natural eye color is purple or it's supposed to be a representation of Diane in Dolor's body?
 

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Is Dolor's natural eye color is purple or it's supposed to be a representation of Diane in Dolor's body?
His eyes are more pink-bright red than Diane's purple eyes imo. Probably his natural eye color.
 

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Has it been revealed how many chapters will be in the volume?(If it will end at 205 or 206). Personally I think 206.
 

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Has it been revealed how many chapters will be in the volume?(If it will end at 205 or 206). Personally I think 206.
Volume 25 has indeed chapters from 198 to 206.:^_^
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Extras from Volume 25 (raw; includes continuation to the Druid's Altar story):

 
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While I'm at it, here are my translations of these pages:
Front page:
SFX: Refreshing
Bafon

Hum… I don't know where it comes from but I feel someone glaring at us…
But it doesn't seem hostile.
Bafoh bafuh

…even so.

If what Harlequin and Diane told me is true…
Assuming Gloxinia is alive and siding with the Demons…

Then it must be because of the events 3000 years ago…

Extra page 1:
Title : Side story / The troll queen of the altar 4
Well then, let's wipe the floor with the trolls in no time,
get our reward and go on a booze, guys.♬

Hmmmm, according to them, it's a few steps from here.

Apparently, there's a spring that's the entrance to the druid altar… but where?

Look, captain. Is that the one they talked about?
A spring, really… more like a puddle…

Hyohyohyo. It's also nicely nicknamed Hendy's piss pond.
There was a time when a goddamned boy took a piss at this spring, completely unaware that it was a sacred entrance.

Don't tell me you're going to cross the gate?
If you value your life, you'll be better off not going there. …inside there are the dreadful trolls…

Oh wow! There's a very large space that has air under the water!!
For real?♪ Let's get there right away.♪
Thank you, old lady.

Extra page 2:
Title: Side story / The troll queen of the altar 5
Jenna… what are you doing?
SFX: Geh

I… I'm just observing their actions for the time being.
Zaneli, even you remember him, right? Just how much mean and evil the Demon can get?

I've… been worrying since I heard his name.
That's very certainly the name of the Demon who betrayed his tribe and fought alongside the Stigma 3000 years ago…
Im… impossible!! Then that midget…? No way that's true!!

You're sounding so serious…

I'm going with them too!!
Zaneli!! Aah, fine!! I'm going too!!

Bottom: To be continued.

Designs pic 1:
"The Seven Deadly Sins" character designs I

Design drafts of Tarmiel of the Four Archangels.
Due to wanting the one of the Four Archangels not quite human-like, even the candidates with a chimeric touch (or is that a temporary thing?), like the drafts in the middle and bottom left, were brought to existence. However he ended up looking already like a Demon more than a Goddess. As a result, we went with the upper draft (with a slight edition in design).

Designs pic 2:
"The Seven Deadly Sins character designs II

Design drafts of Sariel of the Four Archangels.
Unlike Tarmiel and like Ludociel, Sariel appears close to the humans. The figure of an old man got used for the left head of Tarmiel, and the young boy one (with an edition in his clothes' design) got selected. While the way his eyebrows are raised and the drooping degree of his eyes are similar to King's, his pupils are as big as Diane's. (The ones that thought they're awfully similar should try comparing them.)
Of course he isn't related to King in any way.

Text in the middle of the old man: A lot of finger joints.
 
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Nothing new, but it's nice seeing more of Jenna's and Zaneli's perspectives.

I laughed at Hendy's piss pond, though. xD; to think that an airhead like him was the main villain of arc 1.
 

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Awesome, it was Piety. There are only ten decrees, after all. Their triggers were far too identical to be considered different commandments.
 

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I too thought it was weird for him to have Betrayal as his decree if Meliodas told the duo not to run away from the Commandment. Piety makes more sense.
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Also, remember how Diane in Dolor's body used Giga Pick on Karmadios? Well, in reality, it was Giga Lock.
 
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