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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Everyone may be getting a little ahead of themselves about Harisugawa ending after one more chapter. There are not enough chapters to fill three volumes and to many for only two. Another 4 - 7 chapters are needed for a third full volume. If it is going it will not be after one more chapter.

I would not read anything into Jump NEXT. The only thing being published of the other new series are one page gag 4Koma. Likely only three panels per series, if passed bangai are anything to go by. Basically all that Harisugawa is missing out on are end of volume omake.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Harisugawa hasn't done nearly bad enough in the TOCs to warrant being canceled. I don't think its even been in the bottom 3.
See how volume sales and such go first.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

It's been at the bottom once if I remember but I agree Magico and Stars are much more deserving of cancellation as opposed to Mirror World. Granted I still don't think we will know what will go for another couple of weeks. Jump is a fickle mistress.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

March 2 New Jump Comic Releases
Bleach #54
Reborn! #38
D.Gray-Man #23
Bakuman #17
Kuroko no Basket #16 <Special Edition with Drama CD>
Kuroko no Basket #16
Beelzebub #15
Medaka Box #14
ST&RS #3
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa #2
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

@Zeromcd

I don't think you should include D.Gray-man on the list since it moved to Jump SQ.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

It's still cataloged as Jump Comics, not Jump Comics SQ.
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

It's still Jump comics, not Jump Comics SQ
Actually, Jump Comics SQ is still considered to be Jump Comics; it just have different design.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

It says Jump Comics on the cover of D. Gray Man. It says Jump Comics SQ on the cover of the other SQ series. Thus DGM often being listed with Weekly Jump titles. Same went for Steel Ball Run, it was Jump Comics rather than YJ Comics.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

It says Jump Comics on the cover of D. Gray Man. It says Jump Comics SQ on the cover of the other SQ series. Thus DGM often being listed with Weekly Jump titles. Same went for Steel Ball Run, it was Jump Comics rather than YJ Comics.
I just had really big argument about Jump Comics and Jump Comics SQ with other person, and that person did provide many reasons for considering Jump Comics SQ to be Jump Comics. However, I only remember one reason at this point.

One of reason that person gives me is Shueisha includes all of shonen manga's in Jump Comics; SQ series have different design to differentiate them from Shonen Jump and V Jump. However, the publisher treats SQ series as one of Jump Comic, like in s-manga.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

@Zeromcd

I don't think you should include D.Gray-man on the list since it moved to Jump SQ.
Even though it has switched magazines, I included D.Gray-Man because it still has the blue JC at the top of the spine, the blue 集英社 at the bottom of the spine and the pirate logo/Jump Comic on the cover, just like Steel Ball Run and BASTARD!

If on the other hand all that stuff changed like Beshari Gurashi, I wouldn't consider it a Jump Comic anymore.

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He is not a director but producer @shonenjump: Breaking News! New OP movie directed by Eiichiro Oda coming in Dec 2012!
The New One Piece movie will be directed by Oda himself. I wonder if Oda will be taking alot absences in the coming year.

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

So will there be Jump this week or is it on a break?
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

So will there be Jump this week or is it on a break?
Yes, there will be one week break.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Code:
[B][U]2ch Rankings for Jump Issue #51[/U][/B]

1. HunterxHunter ..……(401)  
2. Toriko  ....…(294)  
3. Inumaru ...…(273)  
4. Medaka Box..……(259) 
5. Kochikame .......…(227)  
6. Bakuman....…(215)    
7. Magico . .....…(214) 
8. Naruto .......…(201) 
9. Bleach . …(189)  
10. Sket Dance......…(188)  
11. Kochikame .......…(187)    
12. Nisekoi . …(178)   
13. Gintama ………(173)    
14. One Piece .......…(166)   
15. ST&RS . …(164) 
16. Harisugawa.......…(164) 
17. Kuroko ………(156)    
18. Kurogane....…(154) 
19. Beelzebub ......…(149)  
20. Reborn! . …(132)       
21. Pakki. .…(130) 
22. Mago....……(110) 
Code:
[B][U]2ch Rankings for Jump Issue #1[/U][/B]

1. HunterxHunter ..……(376) 
2. Toriko  ....…(283) 
3. Bakuman....…(256)  
4. Medaka Box..……(237) 
5. Inumaru ...…(233) 
6. One Piece .......…(225) 
7. Harisugawa.......…(213)  
8. Naruto .......…(202) 
9. Bleach . …(178) 
10. Gintama ………(174) 
11.Sket Dance......…(171) 
12. Kochikame .......…(170) 
13. Magico . .....…(168)  
14. Nisekoi . …(147) 
15. Kurogane....…(142) 
16. Kuroko  ………(139)  
17. Beelzebub ......…(139) 
18. ST&RS . …(132) 
19. Pakki. .…(127) 
20. Mago....……(119) 
21. Reborn! . …(111) 
Code:
[B][U]2ch Rankings for Jump Issue #2[/U][/B]

1. HunterxHunter ..……(397)  
2. Toriko  ....…(322) 
3. Bakuman....…(302) 
4. Inumaru ...…(292)   
5. One Piece .......…(256) 
6. Medaka Box..……(245) 
7. Kochikame .......…(239) 
8. Nisekoi . …(231) 
9. Naruto . .....…(220) 
10. Harisugawa.......…(217)   
11. Gintama ………(208) 
12. Magico . .....…(206) 
13. Bleach . …(190) 
14. Beelzebub ......…(174)   
15. Kuroko ………(173) 
16. Sket Dance......…(156)   
17. Kurogane....…(151)  
18. Pakki. .…(150) 
19. ST&RS . …(146)   
20. Reborn! . …(141) 
21. Mago....……(129) 
I'm sorry this isn't as neatly presented as the last kind person that posted these.
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Wow,Toriko is consistently in 2nd..is it that good? I might think of following it then!
And Hunter x Hunter has always been in 1st,hasn't it? Something tells me that Togashi sensei won't go for a hiatus this time (and the story's getting way too interesting at this point).
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Toriko is awesome. Feels a lot like one piece. It's very shouneny and very action packed.
The author really knows how to handle excitement and create tension. The characters are all written well(at least for the 4 emperors).
The beginning might not be as much fun but it gets better and way better.
It feels like a much more brutal one piece (although its not as crazy enough).
I'm posting this because I'm currently catching up :lmao
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Random Jump Sales Facts

- One Piece broke 2,000,000 copies sold per Volume at Volume 12

- HunterxHunter was close to breaking 1,000,000 copies per Volume at volume 4

- Naruto broke 1,000,000 copies sold per Volume at Volume 6

- Bleach broke 1,000,000 copies sold per Volume at Volume 15

- Death Note Volume 1 sold 1,000,000 copies before Volume 2 was released (Fastest in History)

- D.Gray-Man Volume 1 Sold 460,000 Copies before Volume 2 was released

- Hitman Reborn! Volume 1 sold 130,000 Copies before Volume 2 was released

- Gintama Volume 1 sold 390,000 copies before Volume 2 was released
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

How do we have to interpret the data for "copies sold per Volume"?
For example:

"Naruto broke 1,000,000 copies sold per Volume at Volume 6"

It means that the total sell for the first six volumes were 6.000.000 (6mln / 6 volumes = 1mln for volume), or that the volume 6 sold 1.000.000 copies in the time that volume 7 went out?
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Using hypothetical numbers...

When volume 6 reached 1 million copies sold
-Volume 5 - 870k
-Volume 4 - 890k
-Volume 3 - 930k
-Volume 2 - 910k
-Volume 1 - 945k
It's just to ilustrate it. I have no idea of the real numbers.

On current days, almost all Naruto volumes sold more than 1 million copies. But Volume 6 was the very first one to do it.
I hope it helped.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Random Jump Sales Facts

- Death Note Volume 1 sold 1,000,000 copies before Volume 2 was released (Fastest in History)
It's an extreme example, but now some know why 40k copies for a new series isn't enough for jump to justify it's stay in the magazine, even if the author is a new guy. looking at gintama and other that you can break 400k with under 5 volumes to underline my statement.
 
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