Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[perroloco]

For those that think BLEACH is gonna end any time soon.. Rethink please.
It might not be ranked as good as it once was on the TOC but is a matter of time, the moment a character unleashes a Bankai or a Shinigami from Soul Society appears (Likely Hitsugaya or Rukia) its the moment it will get back in the Top 5 of the TOC.
As for the sales, it might be slowly droping in sales, but c´mon it still sells very, very, veryyyyy good, besides that it still has its anime, now if the anime ends I would be worried... Kubo would probably move on because no anime means less profit from merchandise and less popularity and less tankoubon sales, although we have seen some mangakas can live without anime adaptations, like Rokudenashi BLUES or Jojo.

 

[juUnior]

^ not to mention that Kubo himself stated in an interview that he wants Bleach to continue at least another 10 years.. xd

Ok, I will give a shot about big trio colour covers:
- Oda - fantastic, awesome, epic. I actually agree with some of few that his colour pages give a feeling for looking at them more than you should supposed to be, just because it has so much details in it <though, frankly speaking, I consider whole manga and pages and panels having really, really high lvl of details in OP xP>
- Kubo - well, one thing for me is certain: he always keeps "that lvl" and I didn't really had a feeling that one of the other cover was better or worse; the thing is: he has his style, usually with portraying his characters in some fashionable clothes or sth <and when not, usually portraying nice Ichi in nice theme xd>
The last, but not the worst <IMO >:
- Kishi - well, I will put it this way: he is not balanced as the other two. I mean, he can have covers which just make me speechless with awe all the time <and in that times he really just puts the other two artist just faaaar, faaaar behind>, like these covers for example:
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-377/page002.html
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-341/page001.html
<and many, many more>, average covers, and shitty covers like this one:
http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-350-page-9.html
<maybe kids like that, I don't xP>
The newest colour cover seems to me in the style of Oda's colour covers ^^

 

[kaze1028]

The first half TOC from Medaka spoiler provider

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「あれ！？」と思ったので、珍しく掲載順を数えてみました。

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･･････つ、疲れた･･･主に書き込み規制で･･････。
忍法帖とやらになって、前より厳しくなっているような･･････。

Sket Dance
Toriko
Gintama
Naruto
Beelzebub
Magico
Bakuman
Medaka

 

[Finestela]

Sket and Magico have Lead CP and CP, which means Medaka is at #6 excluding CP series.
Nice for Gintama at #2.

 

[saladesu]

Whoa, that's really early

Hurrah for Toriko! Congrats to Gintama as well; I'm actually a little surprised to see Naruto in 3rd (possibly 4th had OP been present). Happy for Beelze and Bakuman being in the top 5 as well

I wonder where Mago is this week. Hopefully clear of the bottom 5 again

 

[juUnior]

I'm actually a little surprised to see Naruto in 3rd (possibly 4th had OP been present).

Why, why are you surprised about Naruto ranked 3/4th??

 

[Divinenega]

This is interesting rankings if this is legit. At the very least it means Medaka won;t be in danger anytime soon...of course getting a confirmation on that anime adaption rumor would work wonders.

Now I can just see where Enigma is in the rankings(hopefully floating well above the bottom 5) then all is well.

 

[Googlez_kun]

Why, why are you surprised about Naruto ranked 3/4th??

Well,maybe because it used to be 1st or 2nd these last months or years.It's kinda surprising to see it this 'low',but nothing really dangerous.Bleach has it worse.

 

[NANAhashi]

Naruto's rank is recently sloppy for a bit as expected. The chap that was ranked is really terrible in my opinion, iirc #534 or #535.

And yah, where is bleach??? =w=;;

 

[Stevenh1990]

Toriko has been taking the top spot for three weeks in a row!! Awesome.

 

[BianchiChrome]

Hello!

I would like to know what Reborn! ranked as this week. Which is more important the ranking of a mange or the way the manga sells?

Do we know what is in the last five this week?

 

[Samui]

Hello!

I would like to know what Reborn! ranked as this week. Which is more important the ranking of a mange or the way the manga sells?

Do we know what is in the last five this week?

We don't know the rest of the ToC yet.

And the sales are more important.

 

[Drmke]

We don't know the rest of the ToC yet.

And the sales are more important.

Not necessarily. Sales are more important after a certain point. Bakuman says about 500,000 but it could very be higher or lower since it does exaggerate facts some. But it is very obvious that Jump takes the ToC extremely seriously considering they move or cancel even popular series that are doing bad in the rankings (though they tend to give them a longer opportunity to rise back up).

 

[kewl0210]

The TOC usually tend to be an indicator of where the Tankoubon sales are gonna go, also.
They're not immediate, especially not for series that have run for a long time and have had animes, but they usually show if a series is going to improve or not in sales in the long run. I think somebody in one of the threads mentioned how Reborn has been doing worse and such, and it's been lower on the TOC generally.
And for series that's brand new without any volumes out, they're the most important.

 

[ZayCon]

Nice to have Toriko at first place. Beelzebub and Bakuman that high is also very good. In my opinion Naruto deserves the spot it has now, maybe even lower. Both Kubo and Kishimoto should show what they're good for soon.

 

[juUnior]

@Googlez-kun, you sound as if I was worried about this No, I was just curious because Naruto had ranked lower sometimes than 3/4 position <or at least if I recall correctly> But yeah, lately it was ranked high <and Japanese ppl 'bought; this KinGin bros. event, as expected of "word play" thingy :x>

@NANAhashi, and vice versa, I thought 534/535 chapter were good, really good. BUT other titles could have done better in that week and they received votes <its not always the case that certain manga's chapter was bad methinks, just other manga's chapters were better> (Un)fortunately I read only so-called big 3 so I cannot judge beside that xd

 

[BBB Banana]

Gintama has yet another awesome ranking

and wow
medaka has been ranking high

 

[Finestela]

From supposedly-retired OP spoiler poster Dragon: CONFIRMED!

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magico C
バク
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BLEACH C
超能力者
エニグマ
いぬ
家庭教師
黒子
亀
ぬらり
保健室
戦国
DOIS SOL
メルヘン



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2011-27
Sket Dance (Lead CP)
Toriko
Gintama
Naruto
Beelze
Magico (CP)
Bakuman
Medaka
Ikkyuu
Bleach (CP)
1-Shot
Enigma
Inumaru
Reborn
Kuroko
Kochi Kame
Mago
HnS
Sengoku
Dois Sol
Grimm

2011-08
Lead CP: One Piece
CP: Beelze, Bakuman

Spoiler: Partial ToC Page Scan

 

[meeedoooz]

well i hope when the current chapters are ranked naruto gets the 1st place

 

[Divinenega]

Satisfying rankings this week in my book. Enigma is safe in the middle of the rankings where it should be and Medaka is ranked pretty high. Sort of sad to see Reborn on the lower half of the ToC but the arc hasn;t been top quality from Amano so I guess that;s to be expected.

Also it looks like Mago's in the bottom 5 again but I;ve gotten used to that so it hasn;t phased me much. It;s not in danger with the second anime season on the horizon at any rate.