Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[Negative Syndicate]

Is Mieru Hito the only recent series that's been cancelled during it's popularity poll?

Because if we're talking about a isolated one-time scenario I don't think there's any problem assuming Engima will probably be safe for at least the short term.

Mieru Hito was serialized from Issue 33 of 2005 to Issue 42 of 2006. It was Iwashiro's (author of Psyren) first serialization.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Oh yeah sorry I was just wondering if there was anything else that got cancelled in the middle of it's popularity poll, or if Mieru Hito was the only one.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Oh yeah sorry I was just wondering if there was anything else that got cancelled in the middle of it's popularity poll, or if Mieru Hito was the only one.

Well, I think that is only one people presented. So, I'm not sure whether there are other examples or not.

If that is only example, then I think Mieru Hito is not a good example for predicting fate of Enigma.

 

[jose]

Enigma will be axed in the next round of cancellation, the new arc is "ending" if u see the scans, and the author have 6~8 chpaters to go yet.

 

[Divinenega]

Enigma will be axed in the next round of cancellation, the new arc is "ending" if u see the scans, and the author have 6~8 chpaters to go yet.

Just because the new arc is ending does not mean Enigma is in any danger yet. It's just as likely that the author wanted to pace newer story arcs faster since the slow pacing of the E-Test was a common complaint.

 

[WilliamK]

Actually, Magico did manage go into top 30 Oricon on its volume 1 and it barely missed volume 2 on top 30; on the other hand, there are no data for Enigma's tank sales for volume 1 and 2. So, when I use your logic on tank sales, than Enigma has more higher chance to be cancelled than Magico, since there is higher chance that Magico can reach or pass Enigma on tank sales.

Ideally, one can't compare volumes 1 or 2 with Enigma's simply because they had different time periods where they had different fans. I mean, taking into account that volume 4 had more sales than Magico's volume 2, we could safely assume that the people who bought volume 4 and haven't bought the other three volumes did indeed purchase the other 3 as they would want the collection. Nomrally, of course! ><

Well it's true that Enigma was last only in Jump #40 and #39 but (excpet #34 and #31) it was down in the bottom5 from Jump #30. While Magico began his drop in Jump #34, right after a color page.

For the tankobon, they are practically the same. Both Enigma #4 and Magico #2 sold around 40k copies. So Top30 or not doesn't really matter.

Yeah, I know, but the difference is, Enigma wasn't as low as Magico at chapter ~16-20, being so low so early is a bad sign over the possibility of arc fatigue.

 

[Asarii]

Just because the new arc is ending does not mean Enigma is in any danger yet. It's just as likely that the author wanted to pace newer story arcs faster since the slow pacing of the E-Test was a common complaint.

The E-Test was rather long for a first arc, but I personally felt as though the pacing was rather quickly- at least in the beginning. The series jumped right in to the main dish without any real introduction, and the characters' backstories were being revealed all within the first 30 chapters. (To be fair though, Enigma was serialized during a time when its contemporaries were being cut left and right.) It would have been all right if Enigma was intended to have a short serialization, but I feel as though the readers are losing interest because they already found out what they wanted to know. #mytwocents

 

[Zeromcd]

Is Mieru Hito the only recent series that's been cancelled during it's popularity poll?

Because if we're talking about a isolated one-time scenario I don't think there's any problem assuming Engima will probably be safe for at least the short term.

'Samurai Usagi' and 'P2!-Lets Play Ping Pong' were both announced to have a character popularity poll in Jump.

Both ended up being cancelled and the results were later published in the final volume of the series.

 

[Divinenega]

'Samurai Usagi' and 'P2!-Lets Play Ping Pong' were both announced to have a character popularity poll in Jump.

Both ended up being cancelled and the results were later published in the final volume of the series.

Didn;t Usagi not even make it to 20 chapters though? That's pretty early for a popularity poll...

 

[Zeromcd]

Didn;t Usagi not even make it to 20 chapters though? That's pretty early for a popularity poll...

Samurai Usagi was cancelled on (2008 Issue #33) chapter 67 and had a final chapter published in 'Akamaru Jump.'

 

[Divinenega]

Samurai Usagi was cancelled on (2008 Issue #33) chapter 67 and had a final chapter published in 'Akamaru Jump.'

Never mind then.

 

[WilliamK]

All of the examples used had 7-8 volumes prior to such, on the other hand, Enigma is having it with its 5th volume being released. I think people are thinking too quickly to say its going to get canceled, yet at the same time, they're people (like me) who are thinking that it won't get canceled for other reasons. We'll just have to wait and see...

 

[Zeromcd]

All of the examples used had 7-8 volumes prior to such, on the other hand, Enigma is having it with its 5th volume being released. I think people are thinking too quickly to say its going to get canceled, yet at the same time, they're people (like me) who are thinking that it won't get canceled for other reasons. We'll just have to wait and see...

Even though Samurai Usagi had 8 volumes it was cancelled as a series in Jump around the same week as it's 6th volume was published. Their was a longer wait time for the lasts volumes due to it's final chapter being published in Akamaru Jump.

P2! even though having 7 Volumes was cancelled in Jump a week before volume 5 was released. I think P2! also had it's final chapter in Akamaru Jump but i'm not 100% sure.


With Enigma, i personally believe it will be cancelled, but it will have its final chapter published in Akamaru Jump/NEXT!

 

[Kurofaise]

I think nonetheless, between a few weeks a few months, the likelihood of Enigma (and Magico) both getting cancelled is very high, whether you compare the sales to each series, both of them hardly sold well enough to hold themselves for a long amount of time. I personally would see Enigma cancelled first, I dropped it around chapter 30 and have no regrets, it got repetitive and stale and not very enjoyable at all. I do read Magico every week but as of late it has been very mediocre, so I will expect it to go soon but will enjoy it whilst it lasts.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

I don't think Enigma and Magico would cancel at same time. I don't think no one has remembered that there is no series that have replaced Golden Future Cup's place. Therefore, I think it is most likely that either one of those two will be axed on this round and it'll replace by two new series. Unless if there going to be three new series; then, it will be whole different scenario.

 

[Asgaroth]

I don't think Enigma and Magico would cancel at same time. I don't think no one has remembered that there is no series that have replaced Golden Future Cup's place. Therefore, I think it is most likely that either one of those two will be axed on this round and it'll replace by two new series. Unless if there going to be three new series; then, it will be whole different scenario.

this would mean that there are 3 unranked series with the new one released recently. if you add the fact that the there is currently 1 series to few, because of the golden future cup and in regard of how long hxh will run this time, could they add up to 5 new possible series. i think that enigma will run a little longer and after they published all these new possibilitys they will probably axe it, because it won't gain much more new fans at this pace. i'm also quite bored with it lately.

maybe they wait till the one shots are ready for serialization like hungry joker or the other one which i forget the name.

are there any new infos about Toshiaki Iwashiro?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

this would mean that there are 3 unranked series with the new one released recently. if you add the fact that the there is currently 1 series to few, because of the golden future cup and in regard of how long hxh will run this time, could they add up to 5 new possible series. i think that enigma will run a little longer and after they published all these new possibilitys they will probably axe it, because it won't gain much more new fans at this pace. i'm also quite bored with it lately.

maybe they wait till the one shots are ready for serialization like hungry joker or the other one which i forget the name.

are there any new infos about Toshiaki Iwashiro?

I don't think the editors going to put new series right away, I think cancellation going to start as soon as Kurogane begins to get ranked. Furthermore, Jump mostly put two new series; I don't think they going to put five new series.

The one shot takes minimum of 6 months to be serialized, therefore one shots from Golden Future Cup not going to be serialized until next year.

Iwashiro has released new one shot on May in Jump Next.

 

[Nii]

Iwashiro has released new one shot on May in Jump Next.

I will really go all happy if he or Komi Naoshi get a new series, would definitely be awesome.

 

[Zeromcd]

From Sasaki's Twitter.

Jump Issue #42 Cover

Hunter x Hunter hasn't had Lead CP/Cover since 2005, and immediately after it did was when the series started going on the huge amount of breaks.

I'm hoping that this and the new Anime is a sign that Togashi is atleast going to serialize more reguarly. But then I remember Dragon Quest X is coming out. *cries*

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

I'm hoping that this and the new Anime is a sign that Togashi is atleast going to serialize more reguarly. But then I remember Dragon Quest X is coming out. *cries*

May as well file the missing person report now.