Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[Jaymie]

Enigma!! I knew you could do it.

Well, it's not like its ranking is outstanding, but it was getting pretty close to the Bottom 5. And there was that scare that Enigma had crashed in the rankings, as well.

 

[Shinsatsu]

I will give Enigma a shot. I see that so many people are rooting for it so I bet it's a good manga
Anyway, I don't think that Naruto will get Rank 1 this week. It should be a flashback chapter... no one likes that. The only thing that can make Naruto rank higher is a major fight.

Spoiler

(with major I mean Sasuke or Madara involved, not the worthless clone fightning we've seen so far).

Bakuman rank is lower than I expected. It's an important chapter... I don't know why it's this low.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Considering Naruto really is in no danger, I don't get why people are so worried when it's in merely 3rd. It's still respectable and, even with it's bad times, at least Kishimoto is getting closer to the end with each chapter he does.

Not much really to say this week: Gintama refound it's stride, Toriko's on top, Mago's in danger again and Medaka's rising up again...interesting week to say the least.

 

[jorped]

I will give Enigma a shot. I see that so many people are rooting for it so I bet it's a good manga
Anyway, I don't think that Naruto will get Rank 1 this week. It should be a flashback chapter... no one likes that. The only thing that can make Naruto rank higher is a major fight.

Spoiler

(with major I mean Sasuke or Madara involved, not the worthless clone fightning we've seen so far).

Bakuman rank is lower than I expected. It's an important chapter... I don't know why it's this low.

Yeah you should read it
It's not an extraordinary manga, but is enjoyable of reading, so give it a shot

About Naruto , i can't agree
The last 4 chapters of Naruto will have to be enough to put it on the first place ! These last 4 chapters have put the war in the right track !
They were very well made by Kishi and compared to the other mangas of WSJ, Naruto has clearly being superior.
One Piece on this chapters was in flashbacks chapters so Naruto won't have a problem beating it , and the other series though they had good chapters i don't think they can beat Naruto *talking about Bakuman, Toriko , Magico , Beelzebub, Enigma * ( the ones that i read).
If Naruto won't get the first chapter on these 4 issues i will be clearly disappointed

 

[DidCart]

What is this one-shot?

 

[Finestela]

What is this one-shot?

The same one (same title/theme) that was in Jump Next last year, as well as a few weeks ago in WSJ. It's about the trouble a psychic would face in his daily life, such as seeing everyone naked all the time, etc.

 

[Asgaroth]

... such as seeing everyone naked all the time, etc.

half to third of the time this aint a problem...

 

[Geddy]

Toriko and Gintama more than deserve outranking Naruto. I'm not sure about 7-8 chapters ago, but the current Elizabeth arc in Gintama is hilarious.
Isn't this Medaka's best "pure" ranking yet?

 

[[Cross]]

Toriko and Gintama more than deserve outranking Naruto. I'm not sure about 7-8 chapters ago, but the current Elizabeth arc in Gintama is hilarious.
Isn't this Medaka's best "pure" ranking yet?

If I recall, Medaka Box hit the fifth spot clean that one random week.

 

[Asgaroth]

i just reading hxh and i must say, its sometimes really good but especially te art is the worst i ever saw in my life. i mean they seems most of the time to me like they were done for a name.

dont know if this is allowed... all of the chapter seems crappy. they even 15 pages long, not the usual 18-21
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_hunter/v18/c187/4.html

for the story. same parts seems exactly like dbz to me. the king thing is like cell. but also that naruto did copy alot. the genin exam was exactly like in hxh. change gaara for hisoka and there you've got hxh!

 

[Rejuvenation]

Toriko #1 again? Why thank you Japan. Medaka just one spot away from the top 5 for the first time in a long time? Thank you VERY much Japan.

With Sket getting the cover and lead color and Bakuman in the top 5 I love this week.

 

[Googlez_kun]

Was the Sket Dance cover posted already?

i just reading hxh and i must say, its sometimes really good but especially te art is the worst i ever saw in my life. i mean they seems most of the time to me like they were done for a name.

dont know if this is allowed... all of the chapter seems crappy. they even 15 pages long, not the usual 18-21
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_hunter/v18/c187/4.html

for the story. same parts seems exactly like dbz to me. the king thing is like cell. but also that naruto did copy alot. the genin exam was exactly like in hxh. change gaara for hisoka and there you've got hxh!

I just started recently as well(I'm at chapter 131) and i'm actually impressed with it.The art,while not perfect,totally fits the style of the manga and has its highlights.And keep in mind,Togashi does not work with assistants,he does everything by himself,which explains the rather low amount of pages.

As for the story,it is brilliant.The plot and the actions are very intelligent,moreso than DBZ,which was rather plain.
I also noticed that Kishimoto was inspired by HxH,but both manga-ka seem to be friends.They had an interview together in the Naruto fanbook and there were even some Naruto easter eggs hidden in HxH(a grafitti on the wall saying 'Naruto').

 

[Asgaroth]

As for the story,it is brilliant.The plot and the actions are very intelligent,moreso than DBZ,which was rather plain.
I also noticed that Kishimoto was inspired by HxH,but both manga-ka seem to be friends.They had an interview together in the Naruto fanbook and there were even some Naruto easter eggs hidden in HxH(a grafitti on the wall saying 'Naruto').

its not about inspired or friends, its more like kishi did the very same in naruto. the rules in hxh for the plates with numbers and the quest to archieve it are exactly the same, even gaaras behaviour is like hisokas.

the same i can say for the art style of the king, who you will meet later in the story is the same as the one for cell.

did you look into the chapter i wrote down? the art style at the beginning is surely great, but it gets worser with every chapter. when he don't keep it within the deadline, why not hire assistants? he can't think thats sooooo import to draw speedline or to tone it. when you look at the chapter i wrote down you can't say that even he thinks so highly of it, otherwise you wouldn't publish such crap artisticwise.

i don't think that the deadline is so short and impossible as people say it. the mangaka of fairy tale did published 2 chapters a week sometimes with full 18 pages. the mangaka of kimi maru no ichi does besides her weekly full paged manga 2 bi monthly mangas with each 20-40 pages. so thats means 20 pages for the weekly manga and aproximately 10 pages for one of the bimonthly manga every week, to keep the shedule. its true that she does it not as detailed as eiichi, but as good as others like kishi and so on.

 

[jorped]

i just reading hxh and i must say, its sometimes really good but especially te art is the worst i ever saw in my life. i mean they seems most of the time to me like they were done for a name.

dont know if this is allowed... all of the chapter seems crappy. they even 15 pages long, not the usual 18-21
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_hunter/v18/c187/4.html

for the story. same parts seems exactly like dbz to me. the king thing is like cell. but also that naruto did copy alot. the genin exam was exactly like in hxh. change gaara for hisoka and there you've got hxh!

I had the idea of reading HxH someday but seeing that link made me rethink about this

 

[Jaymie]

If you want to read HxH, you should definitely shell out the money for the actual volumes. Togashi cleans up the art and it looks amazing after he's done. The magazine artwork can be bearable or absolute garbage depending on how much Dragon Quest Togashi had been playing while drawing.

 

[Asgaroth]

I had the idea of reading HxH someday but seeing that link made me rethink about this

as i said, it gets worser the longer you read. but its not every chapter that is so. of 300 chapters there a 30 which are this way but 25 of them came across the 230 chapter mark. just assumptions but something along this line could be right.

the story so far is great, because i really like this shounen/seinen style with true mature content. in this manga people really die and thats a lot, even kidz and children. at the end of the manga there a lot of black pages because of the violence.

If you want to read HxH, you should definitely shell out the money for the actual volumes. Togashi cleans up the art and it looks amazing after he's done. The magazine artwork can be bearable or absolute garbage depending on how much Dragon Quest Togashi had been playing while drawing.

where does he takes the time to redraw the chapters, when he even doesn't have the time to do the weekly chapter correctly?

 

[kewl0210]

All the volumes of HXH have those name-like chapters redone. Or like, drawn-over. Also all the ones that were like that got scanlated a while ago. It's just that some shitty distro sites stick up the first versions done and don't base them on which version is the highest quality.

 

[NANAhashi]

Sorry, But I think to excuse Kishi copied and ripped off the whole idea between Chuunin exam and Hunter test is make no sense. That is selective reading at its finest.

Yes, there is a tests, but how did they direct them out is so much different. And the whole conclusion was different as well.

And Gaara as Hisoka? Did you really pay attention with the characters of those two? Not mention of the attitude of those two, even their roles and impact with the main characters is also not the same.

If you want to read HxH, you should definitely shell out the money for the actual volumes. Togashi cleans up the art and it looks amazing after he's done. The magazine artwork can be bearable or absolute garbage depending on how much Dragon Quest Togashi had been playing while drawing.

Totally agree. HxH is really worthy for your money.
Some of HxH redone art in tankoubon version is really unique and nice. I saw alot of people complaint with white BG and then just STFO after they saw re-drew ver. xD
edit; like greed island bg in Jump Ver. At first, it looked the game was infected with some worm, but then, it's nice and clean in volumn 15. ; )

 

[Salce]

where does he takes the time to redraw the chapters, when he even doesn't have the time to do the weekly chapter correctly?

He redraws the chapters quietly in the looong Hiatus.

 

[Asarii]

Aww, Mago is down again after ranking above the bottom 5 for a few weeks. I was hoping it would stay afloat since I assumed people would like the current arc. :/

It's no longer surprising that Toriko is capable of taking the top spot. As a whole, this week is similar to all the other weeks in terms of which series are ranked in the top half.