Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[Teeba]

I thought we had decided Mago was the new D.Gray-man of Jump? D.Gray-man lasted a bit longer before it was moved too. =P

I find it interesting Reborn yo-yos from the bottom five to the top five on a regular basis.

Somehow, I thought Beelzebub would be higher considering the chapters that are being ranked, though five is a pretty good spot to be!

 

[saladesu]

So Bleach is out of the bottom 5. Not too far out of it but better than nothing I guess.

It's a pity that Ikkyuu's bombing already - I thought it had potential but reading the newer chapters I have to agree it's not really living up to its potential as much as I'd hoped. It looks like it will turn out to be the cushion. ST&RS may not be ranked yet but hopefully its relatively high position on the TOC is a good sign

Still sad to see Mago ranked so low, I thought it'd begin to pick up about now It should still be safe at least until the second anime season ends, plus a new arc has just begun, so here's hoping that things will pick up before it's too late :x As everyone has said, Mago sells well and despite its low TOC placings, it certainly would not be a cost-effective move to cancel it. Tankoubons are what make money, not the magazine itself.

 

[Nayrael]

I thought we had decided Mago was the new D.Gray-man of Jump? D.Gray-man lasted a bit longer before it was moved too. =P

D.Gray-man was quite likely moved because the Mangaka got injured and even now seems to have issues with it... so I am not sure we should use D.Gray-man as an example.

 

[Drmke]

Screw Jump readers >.> Three of the best manga in the magazine are the bottom three...while generic crap like Kuroko and Magico get more and more color pages. And people saying Jump won't cancel Mago are pretty wrong, Mago hasn't been running long enough for them to be attached enough not to just kill it. Nothing more to say about this except that this ToC has officially ruined my day.

[kaiten][/kaiten]

 

[Jaymie]

Ikkyu now has 11 chapters, right? So there should be another 7 weeks left of it. By that time, Harisugawa will be ranked (if it tanks, that's another 7 week buffer), and Hiatus x Hiatus will be back in the magazine (a 10-20 week buffer right there).

I think Enigma and NuraMago are going to catch a lucky break this time around.

 

[Divinenega]

Ikkyu now has 11 chapters, right? So there should be another 7 weeks left of it. By that time, Harisugawa will be ranked (if it tanks, that's another 7 week buffer), and Hiatus x Hiatus will be back in the magazine (a 10-20 week buffer right there).

I think Enigma and NuraMago are going to catch a lucky break this time around.

Actually nothing may have to be axed when HxH comes back. The Golden Future Cup entries are taking up an extra slot so HxH will probably have that one. Hopefully by the time new series show up again Enigma and Mago will be a bit safer.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Actually nothing may have to be axed when HxH comes back. The Golden Future Cup entries are taking up an extra slot so HxH will probably have that one. Hopefully by the time new series show up again Enigma and Mago will be a bit safer.

I'm not sure about that. I think there also going to be new series when HxH will start. So, I think it is possible that one or two series will end/cancel.

 

[Divinenega]

I'm not sure about that. I think there also going to be new series when HxH will start. So, I think it is possible that one or two series will end/cancel.

Well that might be a problem. Guess I should really hope Enigma gets out of the bottom five fast...

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Well that might be a problem. Guess I should really hope Enigma gets out of the bottom five fast...

Well, I think Golden Future Cup has taken two empty spaces. So, my prediction is Golden Future Cup one shots and one series (so far, most likely Ikkyuu) will be out, then HxH and two new series will be in; so, based on my prediction, Enigma will be safe.

 

[xi0]

Wait, so the first OneShot in the GFC has a second installment? You don't see that happen that often.

Ikkyuu's crash is surprising, but unless it becomes one of those series that yo-yo's it's dead.

I wouldn't compare Mago to DGM at all. D.Gray-man sold better when it was in jump, and was in the WSJ family much longer than Mago. Granted, it didn't have the amount of content Mago has now, but that's because DGM had at least two long hiatuses, while Mago hasn't had any. Just assuming it would be moved is inferring that it has the editorial backing that DGM has, and I don't really see that it does. I think it's still pretty safe despite low rankings. It sells well, has an anime, and as long as new series tank and HxH comes and goes nothing is going to happen to it.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Wait, so the first OneShot in the GFC has a second installment? You don't see that happen that often.

What do you mean by that?

 

[xi0]

What do you mean by that?

Never mind, I saw "Entry #2" and that there were two oneshots in the latest issue and got confused

 

[Kaiten]

Mago is a weird case. Series that sell 500,000 or more copies but are regulars in the bottom five are very rare. To Love Ru and D. Gray Man are the only other examples I can think of. D. Gray Man sells better than Mago, but it's position in the TOC is very similar. Ultimately someone at Shueisha will ask why a series that averages 500,000 copies sold per volume, has lasted over three years, and produced a two season anime can receive so little fan support. If they believe they can make a long term profit off it, they will find a way to let it continue, most likely in SQ. We should not confuse cause and effect though. They will cancel it and there will be a minimum six month hiatus before it moves to SQ or wherever else it may go. That assumes they make an attempt to salvage Mago. And it would be presumptuous to make assumptions about the actions business executives would take based on metrics only they have access to. Whatever choice they make, it will have to what until the anime ends in October.

 

[kaze1028]

Spoiler

HxH animation is on plan?

 

[saladesu]

Translation:
"HUNTER X HUNTER"
Poster, sales stand, shelf tookaa
* The three HxH freebies will, in accordance with the embargo on the TV anime information, be released at the same time as the 29th volume on the 4th of August.

TN: a sales stand looks like this while a shelf tookaa (no idea what the english name is) is something you can "wrap" around your volumes on your shelf. Usually for manga, the tookaa will indicate which volume to which volume an arc is, or in One Piece's case tells you which volume a particular SH joined the crew. Here's an example from Bleach.

Anyway that doesn't say much about a HxH anime but it seems there will be one with info forthcoming later?

 

[xi0]

When they say embargo I'm guessing that means that retailers got this information beforehand for the "three freebies" (Whatever they are), to start giving them away when the 29th volume comes out, which coincides with the announcement of an anime.

It seems odd that Shueisha would expect this to not leak out when so many vendors sell the magazines before their set street date...but I guess it might have been intended, or they just didn't care.

 

[Kubukurin]

Whatever choice they make, it will have to what until the anime ends in October.

Mago's anime ends in December.

 

[TemplateR]

Hunter X Hunter Anime ? I hope for an Brotherhood-Treatment !!!!

 

[kewl0210]

The word they use there "解禁" means more like "lift the ban on" or "making open". Apparently there'll be an anime announcement coinciding with the release of V29 week after next. But info about it and the sales of those freebies isn't allowed until that day, August 4th.
At least, that's what it looks like. Assuming it's not fake or something.
Most likely, this means we're finally getting the looooong awaited OVA of the Chimera Ant arc. And perhaps that the Chimera Ant arc will finally end in the manga in this run. Guess we'll see.

Edit: Oh wait, it says "TV Anime" so I guess it's a TV anime, not an OVA.

 

[DidCart]

Hi guys... did anyone translated the 1st GFC entry from this year? I'm really interested in it.
Thanks.