Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[kewl0210]

I don't think Bleach is ever gonna get canceled at this point. There's a good chance its anime may end, but it won't get canceled. It sells over 500,000 copies a volume, it can't be canceled. It's one of the most popular series in Jump, even if fans don't like how it's been going, it's got enough popularity and enough of a following to not be considered for that sorta thing. Kubo can actually write plots when he tries to. The next arcs could be better.

If the story genuinely gets boring after a while, it'll probably still have enough followers to warrant continuing. Just on people wanting to see what happens because they've read it for so long. Kochikame hasn't ever gotten canceled even after all this time even though it stays in the bottom 7 or so. It's got enough of a fanbase built up.

Course, it could also end up like Reborn or Eyeshield where it still hangs around but just isn't popular anymore after its climax and things.

 

[Narutero-54]

Oh my, look at Hajime no Ippo. It has 900 chapters, but its sales are not the big deal.

Reborn! the last ToC was in 4th position, and now, apparently, it's in the Bottom 5. But its sales are very good, so i don't think that they are going to cancel the Manga yet, and the Rebocon are very popular in Japan xD

Well, i don't think that this ToC is real, because we don't have Spoilers of any Manga yet.That, and the fact that it's already out in the Christmas week, something weird knowing that the chapters are out in the next week online, and the Jump will be released next year xD xD

 

[R4n]

Oh my... look at the number of color pages... (lol)
I am skeptical about the ToC, but i don't mind if it is real. KHR is not as good as it used to be...

 

[Narutero-54]

Oh my... look at the number of color pages... (lol)
I am skeptical about the ToC, but i don't mind if it is real. KHR is not as good as it used to be...

Actually, the Chapter 313 (which will be ranked in the next Issue), and the 318 were EPIC, specially the 318.

But, even if it's not as good as used to be, still is a great Manga. Ande the 4th position in the past Rank, or its sales prove it.
Because of that, i don't know what's up with this ToC, Nurari it's another good Manga, and... look at it in the Bottom.

Well, i still think the ToC it's false, not for that, of course. I think it's fake because it's too soon, we don't even have Spoilers for One Piece, Naruto or Bleach, though they are out before the ToC.


Because of that, i ask, which are the probabilities of this ToC to be real? Thanks.

And sorry for my bad english :3

 

[Goty]

Actually spoilers were out since a while ago, people just didn't know if they were real - but now it's confirmed.
There's a good chance this TOC is the real deal too.

 

[saladesu]

T-san recently posted in the OP thread on 2ch to say that he got his copy of Jump but that "it looks like someone already posted spoilers". So I guess the spoilers are the real deal.

No idea about this TOC specifically, but it could well be the real deal.

Taking this TOC as the real thing...

Then I'll say I'm happy Mago is not at rock bottom now. Bottom 5 is still not good, but at least, it's not the bottom of the bottom. Keep climbing out of there, Mago!!!

Also happy to see this

One Piece (Lead CP)
Naruto
Bakuman
Bleach
Toriko
Beelzebub (CP)
Enigma

Other than Bleach. Although I also know OP and Beelze could possibly be only that high because of CPs.

 

[R4n]

Actually, the Chapter 313 (which will be ranked in the next Issue), and the 318 were EPIC, specially the 318.

But, even if it's not as good as used to be, still is a great Manga. Ande the 4th position in the past Rank, or its sales prove it.
Because of that, i don't know what's up with this ToC, Nurari it's another good Manga, and... look at it in the Bottom.

Well, i still think the ToC it's false, not for that, of course. I think it's fake because it's too soon, we don't even have Spoilers for One Piece, Naruto or Bleach, though they are out before the ToC.


Because of that, i ask, which are the probabilities of this ToC to be real? Thanks.

And sorry for my bad english :3

313 is shocking indeed, but the one that got ranked is 311 i think. But still, a good series can have boring chapters. I remember liking Dragon Ball a lot, but i got bored to death of some parts
If the one that got ranked is 311/312, i won't question why it ranked so low. But i think it will rise again, no worries.

 

[Narutero-54]

Another question xD

This means that the next week we are not going to have a chapter or spoilers? =_=


Ceartainly, the ToCs confuse me. How could be possible that Mago is on the Bottom and sell so well, and Toriko that is up not sell so much?
No, i lie. The Japanese people confuse me, not the ToC xDD

Thanks for the info.

R4n, i'm counting the Chapter 320, because of that i think that the Chapter 312 it's the ranked this week.
But, i'm not worried about it, because i think that there is something else behind the ToC, and not all goes of popularity. Because, Mago sells very good and in the ToC it's on the bottom... That's make no sense xD

 

[Nayrael]

Because, Mago sells very good and in the ToC it's on the bottom... That's make no sense xD

Many people who buy Tankobon's aren't regular SJ reader.

 

[Zangetsu01]

Issue 5/6:
Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo, Toriko (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
Naruto
Bakuman
Bleach
Toriko
Beelzebub (CP)
Enigma
Kochikame
Ao no Exorcist (CP, Special Chapter)
Gintama
Inumaru (CP) & Shinkon-San Irasshai (CP, One Shot)
Sket Dance
Medaka Box
Gag Manga Biyori (CP, Special Chapter)
Kakko Kawaii Sengen! (CP, Special Chapter)
Kuroko no Basket
Reborn!
Omaenchi, Obake Yashiki (CP, One Shot)
Nurarihyon
Hokenshitsu
Oumagadoki
Light Wing

Issue 7:
Cover, Lead CP: Beelzebub
CP: Bleach, Bakuman, IPPON Bambi! (One Shot by Miyamoto Kazuya)

Comments by the OP Spoiler Provider T-san

748 ：T ◆PecpvbY4/. ：2010/12/24(金) 19:28:25 発信元:143.90.177.89
連続でごめん。
尾田さん巻末コメントは新年のあいさつ

ドべから
右翼
動物園
死神
ぬらり
読み切り

次の早売りは新年1/17に発売号だから通常通り行けば1/12には来ると思います。
新年7号の表紙＆巻頭カラーはべるぜバブ
センターカラーはバクマン、読み切り、ブリーチ

じゃあみんな二度目だけど良いお年を〜

does it confirm this TOC ?

 

[saladesu]

Looks like we have confirmation from T that the TOC previously posted is accurate. Well, at least the bottom 5 and the next issue color pages and cover are correct, so the rest should be, as well.

748 ：T ◆PecpvbY4/. ：2010/12/24(金) 19:28:25 発信元:143.90.177.89
連続でごめん。
尾田さん巻末コメントは新年のあいさつ

ドべから
右翼
動物園
死神
ぬらり
読み切り

次の早売りは新年1/17に発売号だから通常通り行けば1/12には来ると思います。
新年7号の表紙＆巻頭カラーはべるぜバブ
センターカラーはバクマン、読み切り、ブリーチ

じゃあみんな二度目だけど良いお年を〜

Also, he says that the next jump will be the 17jan one, ie he will most likely get his early copy on 12jan. Looks like we'll be having a 2-week drought without Jump after all. Drats. I rather 2 one-week breaks than 1 two-week break

 

[Kaiten]

The two week breaks are kind of annoying, it's pretty much guaranteed we get Edited Mangas at some awkward time this week. Always happens when one of the double issues comes out right the Monday after New Years though. Hopefully new series start coming in issue 7 or 8. *Crosses fingers for HxH returning*

 

[Koen]

I rather 2 one-week breaks than 1 two-week break

Yes, me too... that's why I artificially impose myself a 2 one-week breaks instead of a 1 two-week break.


Well, a majority of humans are herd animals, I ain't

 

[Mr. Prince]

Dammit, Oumaga is so weak in the ToC... I'm starting to think it's useless in the end. A battle that can't be won. :/ The chapter which was ranked this week was even a fight between really popular characters in the fandom. That sucks, meh.

Well, at least it got nice company with Nurari and Reborn!... it should at least try to climb above Hokenshitsu in order to ensure its own run.

 

[Divinenega]

I was surprised to see Reborn ranked so low, but I think that was around the time of the Lambo fight so it's a tad understandable. Either way, it'll be out of their soon enough.

Meanwhile Enigma just refuses to leave the top 5!

 

[Rejuvenation]

Medaka is out of the bottom 5 again this week. I'll be happy if we can get another streak going again. Toriko and Bakuman are in the top 5 again. Sket is right above Medaka so this is another great week for me.

I find it much easier to just ignore Bleach and pretend its not in the ToC. No matter how I try to rationalize it, I just can't understand why it manages to stay so high despite being utterly lackluster.

Not surprised to see Reborn low. A lot of the "fights" in this arc have sucked along with the majority of everything else that has happened until recently. The only interesting thing to happen as of late is Daemon Spade revealing himself. I'll spare this place the rest of my rant though.

Haven't caught up with Mago(last I read he was still fighting the fox) so don't know whats up with its current slump.

 

[Asarii]

Huh, looks like the TOC was accurate after all.

As the mod team's resident Reborn stan, I'm genuinely upset. I don't care if any other chapter in that fight got in the bottom five, but how come it had to be that chapter? Seriously? That was a chapter with character development. This confirms that fights are more important, and no one wants to think when reading I suppose. *tries to cool down*

If there's a saving grace, it would be Bakuman and Enigma.

 

[Narutero-54]

Huh, looks like the TOC was accurate after all.

As the mod team's resident Reborn stan, I'm genuinely upset. I don't care if any other chapter in that fight got in the bottom five, but how come it had to be that chapter? Seriously? That was a chapter with character development. This confirms that fights are more important, and no one wants to think when reading I suppose. *tries to cool down*

If there's a saving grace, it would be Bakuman and Enigma.

Well, the Japanese people are very weird, actually, the sells of Reborn!/Mago are extremely good, but in the ToC they're high or in the bottom, without a designed position.

Spoiler

But, the only thinks that matters are the sales. When the Chapter of Hibari's arrival, when Byakuran appears, or when Spade shows himself, i spect that Reborn! ranks in the Top 5 position.

Just like the past week.

Moderator Notice:
Spoiler-tagged just in case, but yes I agree! I think a middle position should be all right.~ Asarii

 

[Salce]

Spoiler

But, the only thinks that matters are the sales. When the Chapter of Hibari's arrival, when Byakuran appears, or when Spade shows himself, i spect that Reborn! ranks in the Top 5 position.

Spoiler

The chapter of Reborn that ranked so low in #5/6 is the 313, when Byakuran appeared and the first memories of Vongola Primo were showed.

That was a great chapter, sincerely I don't understand.

Por cierto, ¡Narutero! no me esperaba encontrarte por aca, ¿seguimos el tema en NarutoUchiha?

 

[Narutero-54]

Actually, this week the Chapter 311/312 is the ranked, not the 313, that will be ranked in the next issue. Or that's why i think...

Salce, qué sorpresa xD no hay mucho qué debatir sobre el Tema, si contamos ocho capítulos atrás, el Capítulo que rankea es el 312, contando el 320 que presuntamente tiene que salir ésta semana si este ToC es real :P