Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Stark700]

I dont understand why you accuse it of plagiarizing Naruto,in many manga there is the idea of exams and tournaments....

You must not be reading all of the other things people have said about the manga.
It was explained before why people thought it was a copy.

First chapter of Black Clover was a total plagiarism of Naruto.

Spoiler

"But just one mage Fourth Hokage saved humankind"
"One day I will become the Hokage Wizard King"
"cant use magic" or "my grimorie's not coming" Chakra, Shadow clones
"In the fifth leaf resides the Kyuubi Devil"
"even with no magical powers i'll become the wizard king" ¿Rock Lee?

 

[conankudo]

I dont understand why you accuse it of plagiarizing Naruto,in many manga there is the idea of exams and tournaments....

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You said the same thing with boku no hero If I remember well

The issue with Black Cover is not only "plagiarizing" themes or plot elements. The author used particular scenes and panels to stage certain moments you will find in Naruto nearly the same way. That might be the main reason for the complaints

Nope, I did not say the same thing. I just accused My Hero Academia to be a well crafted mix of american super hero style and generic shonen jump theme

 

[Asclepius]

Very low quality Jump Next image. Volume 1, 2015.

Does anyone know why Jump Next issues don't all come out on odd or even months (it's mixed)?

 

[Leoat12]

Does anyone know why Jump Next issues don't all come out on odd or even months (it's mixed)?

By what I know, they want to make it bi-monthly, so they released some magazines in consecutives months to fit to their schedule of 6 issues per year. Now it is going be release bi-monthly.

 

[Teeba]

Black Clover and Roggi are both the same to me, both lack a main female character. Well at least in Black Clover I saw some female witches. Until this changes I guess my bet is on Kagamigami.

Very low quality Jump Next image. Volume 1, 2015.

Does anyone know why Jump Next issues don't all come out on odd or even months (it's mixed)?

OOh thanks! I wonder if the Beelzebub Bangaihen will end soon since they've stopped promoting them on the cover (usually there's a little Oga somewhere on the cover). Then again Jump hasn't even listed a compilation volume....I think?

 

[Pietro]

I think that in the next number after Battle satellite there will be the cover/lead for Haikyuu and its 2nd anniversary.
Now that I think about its a lot of time that WT doesnt have a color.It's really strange,in the early chapters it had an huge amounts of color pages,now its a year that it doesnt have a color page....

 

[xAsum0x]

Really? Black Clover had an awesome second chapter that was hilarious and full of heart. How can anyone find Asta unimpressive after that great showing? The magic is so unique to, it makes 7taizai's look like something a bad fanfic writer would create.

It wasn't that good, theres nothing unique about its magic. Comedy is subjective so I never laughed once. Asta is the MC I expect him to win lol. I dont understand how critical you can be with some series, and then not so much with others.

 

[Asclepius]

OOh thanks! I wonder if the Beelzebub Bangaihen will end soon since they've stopped promoting them on the cover (usually there's a little Oga somewhere on the cover). Then again Jump hasn't even listed a compilation volume....I think?

It was in the preview.

 

[WyldViolet]

It wasn't that good, theres nothing unique about its magic. Comedy is subjective so I never laughed once. Asta is the MC I expect him to win lol. I dont understand how critical you can be with some series, and then not so much with others.

If he's attracted to the male character designs then it's a masterpiece of epic proportions that will revolutionize the industry.
If he's not, then vice versa.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Kagamigami's third chapter was great. Black Clover took the pace way past 11, but I still have a soft spot for it. Cyborg Roggy's Art was dynamic but refined, but the story didn't grab me as a first chapter. Enjoyed all three though.

 

[Teeba]

It was in the preview.

AH! Thank you. I didn't meant whether it was in this month's NEXT but if it would end after this month. From Japanese twitter it sounds like it will, its getting 46 pages and a colorpage.

 

[vinceled]

I think that in the next number after Battle satellite there will be the cover/lead for Haikyuu and its 2nd anniversary.
Now that I think about its a lot of time that WT doesnt have a color.It's really strange,in the early chapters it had an huge amounts of color pages,now its a year that it doesnt have a color page....

I actually think it's a good thing, it isn't getting "many". Don't get me wrong, I like the series and want it to get color pages but will all the breaks had to take, chapters he didn't have time to finish properly in the magazine when the anime started... I think the series getting many color pages just wouldn't be a good thing, it would only cause for stress for the author = another break. Not to mention, it'll soonbe the series 2nd anniversary so it'll most likely get color for that.

 

[Suzaku]

Cyborg Roggy has great art and character designs, very refined for such a young rookie -- but the first chapter was lacking in the wow factor. It could have used a more elaborate battle, or just something a bit more surprising. But there's room for more of that, and I like the art and characters enough that I want to read more.

Black Clover is too formulaic for my taste. It has all the things that should make a shonen manga great, and I'm sure some people will see those things and love it for that, but to me it's like reading a manga I've already read before. I get the distinct impression that the mangaka studied a bunch of other popular series and created this in a very calculated way, and I just... want something more original and organic. If the third chapter plays out how I think it will, I'll probably lose interest altogether.

Kagamigami is moving in the right direction with the third chapter. I love the art and setting, and the shikigami concept is really cool, but it still isn't quite clicking for me. I'd like to see more action.

 

[xAsum0x]

Cyborg Roggy has great art and character designs, very refined for such a young rookie -- but the first chapter was lacking in the wow factor. It could have used a more elaborate battle, or just something a bit more surprising. But there's room for more of that, and I like the art and characters enough that I want to read more.

Black Clover is too formulaic for my taste. It has all the things that should make a shonen manga great, and I'm sure some people will see those things and love it for that, but to me it's like reading a manga I've already read before. I get the distinct impression that the mangaka studied a bunch of other popular series and created this in a very calculated way, and I just... want something more original and organic. If the third chapter plays out how I think it will, I'll probably lose interest altogether.

Kagamigami is moving in the right direction with the third chapter. I love the art and setting, and the shikigami concept is really cool, but it still isn't quite clicking for me. I'd like to see more action.

thats pretty much how im feeling with Black Clover right now. Its really disappointing me, Hungry Joker wasn't the most original thing out there, but it felt like something the mangaka at least tried to come up with instead of studying other series and trying to play it safe

 

[Schabrak]

It is still monday in europe/US ->same day

That's not the point. Imagine newspaper and magazines would only be sold from lunchtime on.

 

[rio poneglyph]

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ドベ５
火ノ丸相撲
学級
亀
ワールドトリガー
アゲハ
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15号
表紙&巻頭カラー　ワンピース
センターＣ　ヒロアカ　磯　USB

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ヒロアカ５番

 

[Zeromcd]

Edit: Hero Academia is 5th

Issue #14 Bottom 5
Hinomaru Zumo
Gakkyuu Hottei
Kochikame
World Trigger
Ageha

Issue #15
Lead CP/Cover: One Piece
Center Colour: Hero Academia, Isobee, USB

 

[keinplan45]

I dont know where else I should ask this and I did not find anything on the Internet
I wanted to subscribe to the Shonen Jump Alpha from outside the US. But I dont know what adress to put for the promotional cards. And I am not really interested in receiving those . How did you solve that?

 

[Schabrak]

Really? Black Clover had an awesome second chapter that was hilarious and full of heart. How can anyone find Asta unimpressive after that great showing? The magic is so unique to, it makes 7taizai's look like something a bad fanfic writer would create.

What about that was full of heart? What was unique? There are literally dozens, not make that hundreds of manga, that had that very same or similar structure and line of direction for the introduction of the MC. You simply haven't read, remember or acknowledge them at the moment.

 

[Leoat12]

Edit: Hero Academia is 5th

Issue #14 Bottom 5
Hinomaru Zumo
Gakkyuu Hottei
Kochikame
World Trigger
Ageha

Issue #15
Lead CP/Cover: One Piece
Center Colour: Hero Academia, Isobee, USB

Glad to see that Nisekoi is not in the bottom 5, I hope it is around the middle this time. With low sales, Hinomaru Zumou will start to have risk of cancellation if it continues in this position. I completely understand Gakkyu Houtei position and World Trigger is going worse than ever...

Boku no Hero Academia CP! /o/
USB is an oneshot about USBs?