Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[conankudo]

31号
巻頭カラー/ハイキュー!!
センターカラー/火ノ丸相撲(特別企画始動、2週連続カラー)、背すじをピン！と
Hinomaru Zumou will get CPs two weeks in a row

 

[PharaoDopazo]

Jump #30

 

[James Rye]

Average ranking of 2015 - VOL 30:


"+" means that the series ended or moved to another magazine.


One Piece - 1.73
Assassination Classroom - 1.94
My Hero Academia - 2.4
Haikyuu - 3.52
Food Wars - 3.85
Black Clover - 3.87
Hinomaru Zumou - 5.96
Toriko - 6.08
Gintama - 6.73
PSI Kusou Saiki - 7.24
Kagamigami - 7.9
Nisekoi - 8.33
World Trigger - 8.44
Bleach - 10.76
Kochikame - 10.96
+Gakkyuu Houtei - 11.15
Ultra Battle Satellite - 11.66
+Judos - 12
+Takujou no Ageha - 12.33
+Hi-Fi Cluster - 12.71
+Cyborg Roggy - 13.5
+E-Robot - 13.5
+Sporting Salt - 13.5

Is it still fair to rank WT though given that we know it is put on purpose on the back due its mangaka poor health? For all we know, its chapters could have gotten a lot of votes deserving a higher position which it won't get due the many breaks it has to take every couple weeks.

 

[conankudo]

Is it still fair to rank WT though given that we know it is put on purpose on the back due its mangaka poor health? For all we know, its chapters could have gotten a lot of votes deserving a higher position which it won't get due the many breaks it has to take every couple weeks.

Speaking of the whole ranking stuff I just remembered that according to an interview with the editor of WT that was featured in english WSJ, WT reached first place in the japanese polls more than once. However, if you look at past TOC rankings you will not find WT on first place.

---------- Post added at 07:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:14 PM ----------

By the way, japanese sites are using average rankings of the past 8 weeks instead of the whole year. It makes more sense to me than any other attempt of using math to rank the series in an analytic way

Spoiler

以下は読み切り抜き掲載順８週平均(休載含むのは掲載週のみでの平均)
左の矢印は順位変動、右の矢印は数値変動を表す

→ワンピ…2.000↑
(*1 *2 *2 *2 *3 *3 休 *1)

→暗殺…3.500↑
(*2 *3 *5 *3 *5 *2 *6 *2)

↑ブラクロ…5.625↑
(*7 *6 *3 11 *2 *7 *4 *5)

↓ヒーロー…6.375↓
(*6 *8 *7 *5 10 *5 *2 *8)

↑ハイキュー…6.375↑
(*3 *7 *6 *7 *9 10 *3 *6)

→ソーマ…7.000↑
(12 *5 12 *6 *8 *4 *5 *4)

↑火ノ丸…9.750→
(*5 11 13 *9 *6 13 11 10)

↓トリコ…10.375↓
(*8 *9 10 12 16 *1 14 13)

↑斉木…12.125↓
(*9 16 11 17 13 14 *1 16)

↓トリガー…12.167↓
(15 休 16 16 *1 休 *8 17)

↑銀魂…12.875↓
(11 14 *9 14 12 15 13 15)

↓ニセコイ…13.125↓
(14 10 15 13 14 12 15 12)

→カガミ…14.000↑
(10 13 14 15 17 17 19 *7)

→こち亀…17.000↓
(17 12 17 19 18 16 17 20)

↓UBS…17.875↓
(13 15 18 20 19 19 18 21)

→ブリーチ…17.875↓
(16 17 19 18 20 18 16 19)

 

[piau9000]

Is it still fair to rank WT though given that we know it is put on purpose on the back due its mangaka poor health? For all we know, its chapters could have gotten a lot of votes deserving a higher position which it won't get due the many breaks it has to take every couple weeks.

This is the rankings of World Trigger in 2015 so far:

9, 5, 7, 4, 10, 6, 13, 9, 8, 9, 9, 8, 10, 7, 12, 10, 5, 11 = 8.44

2014:

5, 2, 6, 10, 10, 6, 9, 5, 6, 7, 10, 10, 14, 8, 8, 7, 9, 6, 11, 12, 9, 10, 9, 8, 4, 10, 6, 10, 11, 13, 10, 7, 6 = 8.30

2013 (year that it was released):

6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 11, 13, 3, 8, 8, 9, 8, 6, 8, 6, 10, 6, 8, 6, 8, 8, 9, 9, 5, 10, 8, 6, 7 = 8.07



As you can see there's no much difference so I don't think that they are putting it in the back purposely.

 

[ziko77]

Speaking of the whole ranking stuff I just remembered that according to an interview with the editor of WT that was featured in english WSJ, WT reached first place in the japanese polls more than once. However, if you look at past TOC rankings you will not find WT on first place.

---------- Post added at 07:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:14 PM ----------

By the way, japanese sites are using average rankings of the past 8 weeks instead of the whole year. It makes more sense to me than any other attempt of using math to rank the series in an analytic way

Spoiler

以下は読み切り抜き掲載順８週平均(休載含むのは掲載週のみでの平均)
左の矢印は順位変動、右の矢印は数値変動を表す

→ワンピ…2.000↑
(*1 *2 *2 *2 *3 *3 休 *1)

→暗殺…3.500↑
(*2 *3 *5 *3 *5 *2 *6 *2)

↑ブラクロ…5.625↑
(*7 *6 *3 11 *2 *7 *4 *5)

↓ヒーロー…6.375↓
(*6 *8 *7 *5 10 *5 *2 *8)

↑ハイキュー…6.375↑
(*3 *7 *6 *7 *9 10 *3 *6)

→ソーマ…7.000↑
(12 *5 12 *6 *8 *4 *5 *4)

↑火ノ丸…9.750→
(*5 11 13 *9 *6 13 11 10)

↓トリコ…10.375↓
(*8 *9 10 12 16 *1 14 13)

↑斉木…12.125↓
(*9 16 11 17 13 14 *1 16)

↓トリガー…12.167↓
(15 休 16 16 *1 休 *8 17)

↑銀魂…12.875↓
(11 14 *9 14 12 15 13 15)

↓ニセコイ…13.125↓
(14 10 15 13 14 12 15 12)

→カガミ…14.000↑
(10 13 14 15 17 17 19 *7)

→こち亀…17.000↓
(17 12 17 19 18 16 17 20)

↓UBS…17.875↓
(13 15 18 20 19 19 18 21)

→ブリーチ…17.875↓
(16 17 19 18 20 18 16 19)

yes, it's more sensible. Cover,CP potition, and Absent being calculated.
world trigger : ↓トリガー…12.167↓
(15 休 16 16 *1 休 *8 17)
first place = cover
休 = absent

CP potition being counted kagamigami 7th this week, ansatsu 2nd, blackclover 5th because there's naruto gaiden above although it didn't ranked, boku no hero 8th. I think the best way to see the rank is just seeing the TOC picture, that's all.

but i don't understand what the meaning of " * "?

 

[Stark700]

yes, it's more sensible. Cover,CP potition, and Absent being calculated.
world trigger : ↓トリガー…12.167↓
(15 休 16 16 *1 休 *8 17)
first place = cover
休 = absent

CP potition being counted kagamigami 7th this week, ansatsu 2nd, blackclover 5th because there's naruto gaiden above although it didn't ranked, boku no hero 8th. I think the best way to see the rank is just seeing the TOC picture, that's all.

but i don't understand what the meaning of " * "?

They use the asterisk to keep alignment, without having to use a spreadsheet. This may be lost due to different formatting in a different site.

 

[Covers]

WSJ #30 Digital:

 

[De La Croissant]

So: Hq!! Cover, Sesuji CP, Hinomaru CP and... what else?

 

[Unok]

Kagamigami x Black Clover

By Iwashiro (included in Black Clover v01)


By Tabata (included in Kagamigami v01)

 

[SharkBait]

I wish he would draw Ichijou in splatoon style

 

[CallMeTsuyu]

Lol. Man, I love the Globes. They really do love pure, white things, huh? I imagine Mako and Aster would be insta-friends given both have very eccentric and lively personalities. He would definitely be some incredible muscle to have around the office, too, that's for sure.

 

[Pietro]

Ahahah Asta in fights even against an enemy of Hungry joker in the second picture.Anyway,their drawings are too similiar,it's difficult to recognise the author

 

[conankudo]

This week's cover of english WSJ caught me offguard (in a good way).

 

[vinceled]

Ahahah Asta in fights even against an enemy of Hungry joker in the second picture.Anyway,their drawings are too similiar,it's difficult to recognise the author

Well Tabata was Iwashiro's assistant after all, as was the author of Beelzebub.

 

[Mammo]

Folie a deux one-shot in esj was interesting

the villain guy reminds of the akumas from D-grey man

his motives (making human chimera?) reminds of from FMA

the way he was taking down & sealed reminds me of kekkai sensen

& they left us with so many unanswered questions, what is the place where do Nero & Abigail work? what are those monsters exactly? what happened to Abigail in the past & how does it relate to her powers? is Nero just a dude with a gun?

Well Tabata was Iwashiro's assistant after all, as was the author of Beelzebub.

pochi kuro mangaka was one of Iwashiro's assistants too

 

[conankudo]

The Oneshot was great! I could imagine a title like that would fit very well into Young Jump, respectively Tonari no Young Jump.

Did anyone read the japanese and the english version? Are there any differences worth mentioning? It seems the translation was done by the very authors themselves since neither a translator nor an editor is mentioned at the last page of EWSJ.

 

[NonExisted]

the oneshot is really interesting. I'd like to see it getting serialized

 

[SharkBait]

I want to get Gods Eater even more now.

 

[ElJin]

I want to get Gods Eater even more now.

What means?