Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Unok]

Black Clover x Beelzebub by Ryuuhei Tamura, released in Black Clover v02

 

[SharkBait]

BLack Clover with Beelzebub is litrally one of the best fucions ever, now I hope we get another one except with Dorksta x Furuichi, Yuno x Oga.

 

[Mammo]

the only thing that post showed me is that not even Tamura can make Asta likable

 

[SharkBait]

Not liking Asta is like not liking when a young kid gets excited for stuff, its just mean hearted and unkind.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

I actually had a dream about Black Clover last night. I didn't know I liked the series that much...I think I'm more excited about it's potential rather than what it is currently. Although it's still pretty good now I think. I hope Boku and it can be rivals for a long time. I do wish Asta was a bit more fleshed out and not so one dimensional. Maybe in time.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Seriously that we need to have some boring hate comment about this manga even with a simple one page collaboration? Some people here has serious problems in keeping this thread more enjoyable for all kind of readers with this "necessity" to be unnecessarily offensive in every post about the manga just for the sake of the hate, this just turn the thread into a toxic place.

Really, you not even need to be a actual fan of Black Clover or any series to get annoyed by this kind of behaviour.

I actually had a dream about Black Clover last night. I didn't know I liked the series that much...I think I'm more excited about it's potential rather than what it currently. Although it's good now I think. I hope Boku and it can be rivals for a long time. I do wish Asta was a bit more fleshed out and not so one dimensional. Maybe in time.

Yeah, me too, in the moment BC is fine and nice, i'm more excited to see the potential and the future, i like when i think in Boku no Hero and Black Clover like the new Naruto and Bleach (exactly in this way) along with One Piece in Jump, is funny.

 

[De La Croissant]

There was Watsuki gang, and now there is the Iwashiro gang.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Yeah, me too, in the moment BC is fine and nice, i'm more excited to see the potential and the future, i like when i think in Boku no Hero and Black Clover like the new Naruto and Bleach (exactly in this way) along with One Piece in Jump, is funny.

Interesting, you see Boku as Naruto and BC as Bleach? I always considered Boku to be like OP because it would be the oldest in the new potential "Big 3," has a Western theme and is quirky. BC I considered Naruto because of the demon theme, Asta being like Naruto, the early part being about missions and it being second in line. I don't think the "Bleach" of the bunch has arrived yet.

 

[jagman1x3]

Interesting, you see Boku as Naruto and BC as Bleach? I always considered Boku to be like OP because it would be the oldest in the new potential "Big 3," has a Western theme and is quirky. BC I considered Naruto because of the demon theme, Asta being like Naruto, the early part being about missions and it being second in line. I don't think the "Bleach" of the bunch has arrived yet.

Going by how long Kubo seems to want to stretch it out, I'd say Bleach is going to be the new Bleach.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Interesting, you see Boku as Naruto and BC as Bleach? I always considered Boku to be like OP because it would be the oldest in the new potential "Big 3," has a Western theme and is quirky. BC I considered Naruto because of the demon theme, Asta being like Naruto, the early part being about missions and it being second in line. I don't think the "Bleach" of the bunch has arrived yet.

I think this way not because similarities but popularity and potential, i said the two along with One Piece because will be published for much years yet, only Oda knows when OP will end. With One Piece i consider something like Ansatsu that with the first volume reached 1 million even before the anime, but obviously a battle shounen.

So i compare in this way because Boku no Hero is already big popular not only in toc, but sales and popularity in general like Naruto and is considered by a lot as the "next Naruto", while Black Clover is more like Bleach, more "moderated", not so big and popular since the beginning, is growing more slowly, with good animes, i can see Black Clover reaching Bleach level of sales and popularity (500 ~ 700), and Boku no Hero reaching Naruto level of sales and popularity (1 million).

Of course that all of this isn't considering that a new battle manga could appear in some few years and be even more popular than both from the beginning.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

Going by how long Kubo seems to want to stretch it out, I'd say Bleach is going to be the new Bleach.

It's the new Bleach, the old Bleach, and the Bleach 15 years from now. In short, It's Bleach.

 

[101nemesis]

I think this way not because similarities but popularity and potential, i said the two along with One Piece because will be published for much years yet, only Oda knows when OP will end. With One Piece i consider something like Ansatsu that with the first volume reached 1 million even before the anime, but obviously a battle shounen.

So i compare in this way because Boku no Hero is already big popular not only in toc, but sales and popularity in general like Naruto and is considered by a lot as the "next Naruto", while Black Clover is more like Bleach, more "moderated", not so big and popular since the beginning, is growing more slowly, with good animes, i can see Black Clover reaching Bleach level of sales and popularity (500 ~ 700), and Boku no Hero reaching Naruto level of sales and popularity (1 million).

Of course that all of this isn't considering that a new battle manga could appear in some few years and be even more popular than both from the beginning.

Bleach sold 1.2 million at it's peak.
For a good part, it sold about 850k at the bare minimum.

But yeah, I can see how the comparison is made. BnHA seems to be a very inspiring story just like how Naruto was.
BC seems to be just full blown action, just like Bleach. BnHA is relatively new with being the more popular one at the moment.
Although during the early days, Bleach's toc placements were quite unsteady with sometimes reaching the top 5 and other times the bottom 5.

 

[Pietro]

Any spoiler for Tomorrow's week of Jump?

 

[Covers]

#WSJ 39

 

[conankudo]

This out for quite a while
Bottom 7

FUll TOC:
ソーマ 春药
ワンピ OP
ヒロアカ 英雄
暗杀
金未来
ブラクロ 五叶草
ハイキュー 排球
斉木
相扑
トリコ 美食
すじピン 跳舞
银魂
ベスブル BEST BLUE
カガミ 嘉神
鰤 死神
ニセコイ 伪恋
こち亀 条子
レディ 女屌
デビリ 恶班

Shokugeki no Souma (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
My Hero Academia
Assassination Classroom
Genjuui Toteku (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #5)
Black Clover
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Hinomaru Zumou
Toriko
Sesuji wo Pin! to
Gintama (CP)
Best Blue
Kagamigami
Bleach
Nisekoi
Kochikame
Lady Justice
Devilyman
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Absent World Trigger

 

[SharkBait]

How much more until Best BLue is on ranked status?

 

[Irrumator]

Surprising that Nise took a dive. Last few weeks it's been upper middle. Wonder what happened eight weeks ago.

 

[ryozen]

How much more until Best BLue is on ranked status?

2 weeks.

 

[ShenGao]

Wow, that dancing Manga has really fallen. Last week it was in 2nd place and now it's 8th. Lets see how it will continue, because it would be a shame if it gets axed.

 

[Ryuma00]

Wow, that dancing Manga has really fallen. Last week it was in 2nd place and now it's 8th. Lets see how it will continue, because it would be a shame if it gets axed.

Actually it isn't that big deal...
In issue 34 it was 5th, then in #35 it was 2nd.
Week later it was 7th then it went back to 2nd place in issue 37/38.
It simply has jumping/dropping phase