Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Koi Kage]

Is HxH under an eight weeks rank free grace period since it came back from hiatus I read on reddit that it was and I'm curious if it's true?

 

[Nakura]

Is HxH under an eight weeks rank free grace period since it came back from hiatus I read on reddit that it was and I'm curious if it's true?

If we go by the 8 week rule, then yeah, it's not ranked because it wasn't present in the issues the rankings would be for.

 

[ScotchAianB]

カラー表記は無いけど巻末予告に載ってた奴：ゆらぎ、ストーン、ハンタ
ワンピ20周年企画10本
①1997.7.22連載開始号ジャンプ・リメンバーコラボ表紙
②表紙をめくると尾田先生イラストメッセージ
③20年の万感と未来への躍進を誓う巻頭ポスター
④綴じ込み付録、麦わらの一味VS新世界の強者たち！対決オリジナル将棋
⑤全連載陣参加チャレンジ企画！麦わら帽子を探せ！
⑥ルフィと共演！読者参加型新企画！
⑦ワンピース×スクジャン特別企画
⑧ONE PIECE 20th ANNIVERSARY SURPRISE (7/22何かが起こる！ファン必見情報盛り沢山！)
⑨尾田さんとの思い出漫画（島袋光年）
⑩ワンピースパーティー最強Ｊから出張掲載

Anyone translate !

 

[SharkBait]

I love that they keep giving dead series color pages, it totally isnt unfair or anything, screw the editors. BLack Clover deserves more.

 

[Leoat12]

CP for Robot x Laserbeam even though it is almost dead last says a lot about Shueisha mindset this time, it is the same with We Never Learn. I think they are willing to keep these two series a little longer than normal to see if they mature and get a stable ranking because normally they don't do what they are doing. "We Never Learn" already proved to be a good manga to sell volumes and Robot x Laserbeam will probably have good sales as well so I think we are going to see them around for some more time. Cushions help, too, like Hungry Marie, Spring Weapon, Shuudan and Cross Account. From old series, Hinomaru Zumou is already pending to end for months now and Gintama for years, they should end at once. Hunter x Hunter will probably come back to hiatus by the end of the year, so we will have one more slot.

 

[WyldViolet]

CP for Robot x Laserbeam even though it is almost dead last says a lot about Shueisha mindset this time, it is the same with We Never Learn. I think they are willing to keep these two series a little longer than normal to see if they mature and get a stable ranking because normally they don't do what they are doing. "We Never Learn" already proved to be a good manga to sell volumes and Robot x Laserbeam will probably have good sales as well so I think we are going to see them around for some more time. Cushions help, too, like Hungry Marie, Spring Weapon, Shuudan and Cross Account. From old series, Hinomaru Zumou is already pending to end for months now and Gintama for years, they should end at once. Hunter x Hunter will probably come back to hiatus by the end of the year, so we will have one more slot.

Do you not remember Illegal Rare or Kagamigami? This treatment is normal for veterans.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Man, the new series really are struggling to get good ranks. Here's hoping that We Can't Study stays alive due to its sales even if its rankings are on the low side.

 

[G_I_A]

Pretty meh toc.

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

CP for Robot x Laserbeam even though it is almost dead last says a lot about Shueisha mindset this time, it is the same with We Never Learn. I think they are willing to keep these two series a little longer than normal to see if they mature and get a stable ranking because normally they don't do what they are doing. "We Never Learn" already proved to be a good manga to sell volumes and Robot x Laserbeam will probably have good sales as well so I think we are going to see them around for some more time. Cushions help, too, like Hungry Marie, Spring Weapon, Shuudan and Cross Account. From old series, Hinomaru Zumou is already pending to end for months now and Gintama for years, they should end at once. Hunter x Hunter will probably come back to hiatus by the end of the year, so we will have one more slot.

I hope We Never Learn and Robot X Laserbeam survive. WNL has already shown that it can take the place of Hinomaru Zumou in sales. Approximately 42k copies sold in 24 days, while Hinomaru in 24 days sold 44k. It is not this time that Tamura will achieve a new success, I expected a lot from the author.

 

[Scruffy8642]

No real complaints. Average TOC that I'm pretty happy with everything's placements.

 

[ElJin]

"Nice" TOC, just in positions we already expected.

No one said nothing about 3rd Number One's volume? It's been sold this month, right? If there's no signal of increase, I really don't get it why Jump is giving life to this manga (not that I dislike the series, I'm a lover of a true and pure comedy with children appeal seeing part of magazine's audience, but seeing with business eyes, the series doesn't showed that deserves this place).

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Do you not remember Illegal Rare or Kagamigami? This treatment is normal for veterans.

Mononofu had the same treatment. If you consider Ikezawa Haruto veteran.

 

[Leoat12]

I hope We Never Learn and Robot X Laserbeam survive. WNL has already shown that it can take the place of Hinomaru Zumou in sales. Approximately 42k copies sold in 24 days, while Hinomaru in 24 days sold 44k. It is not this time that Tamura will achieve a new success, I expected a lot from the author.

Me, too. Both have been pretty enjoyable so far. Sales are nothing without good ranking, though...

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Me, too. Both have been pretty enjoyable so far. Sales are nothing without good ranking, though...

It was only a small curiosity, if Hinomaru ends, WNL will serve as the manga that will sell the same as Hinomaru (for now). I have a theory that Jump's chief editor chooses positions in TOC because of the popularity of the series in social media or in Japanese forums. One of the facts that makes me believe this theory is that Spring Weapon was good positions because the chief editor wants the manga sales have a boost in Vol #3. WNL has a good reception on Twitter and 2ch. Jump doesn't give good positions for WNL because it has doubts whether the manga will be successful or not. I'm sorry if the theory is kind of crazy.

 

[Leoat12]

It was only a small curiosity, if Hinomaru ends, WNL will serve as the manga that will sell the same as Hinomaru (for now). I have a theory that Jump's chief editor chooses positions in TOC because of the popularity of the series in social media or in Japanese forums. One of the facts that makes me believe this theory is that Spring Weapon was good positions because the chief editor wants the manga sales have a boost in Vol #3. WNL has a good reception on Twitter and 2ch. Jump doesn't give good positions for WNL because it has doubts whether the manga will be successful or not. I'm sorry if the theory is kind of crazy.

Yeah, it is crazy. The TOC is solely made by the polls. The editors talked about that many times and they say that it is made "keeping in mind the enjoyment", but we know that it is bullshit, the best thing for every reader is to find their favorite series quickly at the first pages and readers vote for their favorite series, period.

 

[Tanzo]

カラー表記は無いけど巻末予告に載ってた奴：ゆらぎ、ストーン、ハンタ
Anyone translate !

That part says the series listed in the preview but not getting color pages, which are Yuragi, Dr. Stone, and HxH.
The 10th thing on the OP 20th anniversary list is:

 

[Halloween]

Neverland is pretty much getting color pages every other issue now.

 

[HIGAN0]

Shoseki ranking 7/4 :

1- Shokugeki no Souma 25
2- The Promised Neverland 04
3- Gintama 69
4- Hunter x Hunter 34
5- Yuragisou no Yuuna-san 06
6- Robot x Laserbeam 01
7- Twin Star Exorcists 12
8- Saiki Kusuo no Sainan 22
9- Kono Oto Tomare 15
10- Dr. Stone 01
11- Yuukoku no Moriarty 03
14- Kemono Jihen 02
18- Harapeko no Marie 01
19- elDLIVE 08
21- Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru 01
22-Kiss x Death 05
28- Isobe Isobee Monogatari 14
30- The Promised Neverland 01
31- The Promised Neverland 02
32- Spring Weapon Number One 03
33- The Promised Neverland 03
35- My hero Academia 14
37- iShoujo+ 14
46- I sold my life for ten thousand yen per year. 01
51- I sold my life for ten thousand yen per year. 02
54- Macho Gourmet
111- We Never Learn 01
164- Chronos Ruler 01
230- Chronos Ruler 02

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 5, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 5, 2017 ---

｢ROBOT×LASERBEAM①｣の初版は20万部前後(推測値)

Robot x Laserbeam Vol.01 First Print is around 200.000 copies.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Shoseki ranking 7/4 :


6- Robot x Laserbeam 01
10- Dr. Stone 01
18- Harapeko no Marie 01
28- Isobe Isobee Monogatari 14
32- Spring Weapon Number One 03

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 5, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 5, 2017 ---

Robot x Laserbeam Vol.01 First Print is around 200.000 copies.

So it seems the sales for the 3 newbies will be like people thought. But holy shit 200k first print is kinda ridiculous, though if it keeps that position near Yuragi it seems like it'll be pretty spot on. Spring Weapon continues to be a joke, not even passing Isobe or selling half of HZ. They have to be preparing it to replace Isobe, there's no other reason to keep it at this point. Some 2 volume cancel fodder series did significantly better than this...

2 days in a row Neverland has beaten Gintama. If it ends up surpassing it on it's 4th volume, that's a massive deal. Plus its first 3 volumes are still beating Spring Weapon XD. Makes me wonder where it's sales will plateau, because there's no sign of it's growth stopping yet.

 

[Mammo]

54- Macho Gourmet

I reckon both the guy that wrote this miniseries and the guy that wrote Chikyuu Ningen Terra-chan miniseries were being tested by Jump before giving them their own series on the main magazine

and I'm not complaining, both were pretty entertaining, way better than all of Giga amateurish mini shitfest