Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Leoat12]

https://www.animate.co.jp/fair_campaign/86113/
Why the prize is Robot related and not the other 5? Don't care but i'm curious

I thought that they did it for all series, but I didn't find the promotion so probably it's because they are promoting RxL much more than the others. It's clear.

 

[Mammo]

https://www.animate.co.jp/fair_campaign/86113/
Why the prize is Robot related and not the other 5? Don't care but i'm curious

I was going to say because Fujimaki is the more popular and successful from the bunch but then I remember Eyeshield was huge too

I guess having KnB movie in theaters makes Fujimaki's merch more desirable?

 

[Leoat12]

How much RxL can be appealing for fujoishi? It is very important for the success of the series.

 

[Scruffy8642]

https://www.animate.co.jp/fair_campaign/86113/
Why the prize is Robot related and not the other 5? Don't care but i'm curious

Because Kuroko was by far the most successful past-work of any of the authors, and Fujimaki the most famous. Beelzebub and Nisekoi spinoff sales were minimal compared to Eyeshield/Kuroko. And even Eyeshield only had an average of 560k per volume according to wikipedia (seems a bit low, is that correct?) vs Kuroko's 1mil per volume.

 

[vampire killer]

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...-anticipated-spring-2017-anime-series/.113583
BHA is the most anticipated anime this season at least in the west. Japan should get there sh%t toggeder.

 

[Leoat12]

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...-anticipated-spring-2017-anime-series/.113583
BHA is the most anticipated anime this season at least in the west. Japan should get there sh%t toggeder.

Did we see the same ranking? Attack on Titan is in first in both lists.

 

[vampire killer]

Did we see the same ranking? Attack on Titan is in first in both lists.

Aot is already dead. You can see how well the new Blue exorcist sold. Aot will have the same sales like it.

 

[Leoat12]

Aot is already dead. You can see how well the new Blue exorcist sold. Aot will have the same sales like it.

Now it is new, change the result of the poll based on your opinion... Did you think nobody would notice?
This exact same poll is denying your opinion because it is the most anticipated according to it. Attack on Titan is better in anime and compare it to Blue Exorcist is preposterous.

 

[ElJin]

It´s time for oyu to accept it. Black Clover is a big-ass conceptual book, or glorified template. Seriously, Pierrot has a lot of material to work with. Or what, did Tabata make something so awesome that it doesn´t need original content to be great? In other studio, because of "faithful adaptation", it would be a "what could´ve been" series, so I´m sorta happy this studio is the responsible for doing the animation. If you wanna hateme for saying this, do it, but I would rather watch an original story in anime than read the glorified template Tabata is writing right now

I really don't hate anyone here hahaha. It's just different points of view, and I respect that.
If the Japanese public is enjoying Black Clover (story of the manga), that's enough for me.
I always want to see a manga that I like to be animated, that's the highlight to me. Black Clover already reached this, so I'm really happy that Pierrot is the responsible (I'm pretty sure the anime will be a success).

 

[Koi Kage]

I found something rather interesting regarding sales numbers
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...16-digital-sees-27.5-percent-increase/.113129

 

[Nakura]

I found something rather interesting regarding sales numbers
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...16-digital-sees-27.5-percent-increase/.113129

Which is why it's becoming more and more frustrating that we don't have access to digital sales numbers.

 

[Leoat12]

Amazon would really gain my respect even more if they released a semestral or annual sales. It is not that hard to do, I think... Then the other ones would follow.

 

[Kadir0]

okay now TPN is getting slow. At this rate whoever predicted they won't escape by volume 10 deserve a cookie. It needs ~3 more chapters for volume 4.

The author confirmed that the escape will occur between vol 3 and 4, Ray is getting shipped tomorrow and 3 chapters left in vol 4, which means the jail break will happen in those 3 chapters.

 

[TyVip]

Because Kuroko was by far the most successful past-work of any of the authors, and Fujimaki the most famous. Beelzebub and Nisekoi spinoff sales were minimal compared to Eyeshield/Kuroko. And even Eyeshield only had an average of 560k per volume according to wikipedia (seems a bit low, is that correct?) vs Kuroko's 1mil per volume.

Eyeshield21 has 20 million in print, and that doesn't mean an average of 560k/volume.

Here's what I manage to find:

******* 510,000 Eyeshield 21 vol.24
*38,200 196,111 Eyeshield 21 vol.32
******* 170,927 Eyeshield 21 vol.33
*50,832 212,820 Eyeshield 21 vol.34
*17,467 200,971 Eyeshield 21 vol.35
******* 165,014 Eyeshield 21 vol.36
*74,501 184,146 Eyeshield 21 vol.37

 

[vampire killer]

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...-japan-reports-top-selling-mangaanime-of-2016
Some people are blind.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Eyeshield21 has 20 million in print, and that doesn't mean an average of 560k/volume.

Here's what I manage to find:

******* 510,000 Eyeshield 21 vol.24
*38,200 196,111 Eyeshield 21 vol.32
******* 170,927 Eyeshield 21 vol.33
*50,832 212,820 Eyeshield 21 vol.34
*17,467 200,971 Eyeshield 21 vol.35
******* 165,014 Eyeshield 21 vol.36
*74,501 184,146 Eyeshield 21 vol.37

Yeah I know. It's just overall sales/#volumes is a good way to see how popular series are in comparison to each other despite having different lengths. Those sales are quite low considering how popular Eyeshield seems to be. It's interesting.

 

[Leoat12]

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...-japan-reports-top-selling-mangaanime-of-2016
Some people are blind.

Everybody here is talking about sales numbers, don't embarrass yourself with this kind of indirect bait.

 

[iceemperor]

Yeah I know. It's just overall sales/#volumes is a good way to see how popular series are in comparison to each other despite having different lengths. Those sales are quite low considering how popular Eyeshield seems to be. It's interesting.

We only have concrete numbers for Eyeshield 21 starting around 2008 which is about Vol 29.

アイシールド21

│ 初動. (日)│ ２週計｜ ３週計｜ ４週計｜ ５週計┃　　累計 (日数)┃ 発売日.│タイトル
│118050 (3)│188660│210964│------│------┃*,210,964 (*17)┃2008/04｜アイシールド21 29
│170685 (5)│214426│230427│240167│------┃*,262,268 (166)┃2008/06｜アイシールド21 30
│193271 (7)│235667│251579│------│------┃*,281,274 (105)┃2008/08｜アイシールド21 31
│157911 (6)│196111│213120│------│------┃*,213,120 (*20)┃2008/11｜アイシールド21 32
│170927 (7)│205635│220798│229767│------┃*,270,722 (322)┃2009/01｜アイシールド21 33
│161988 (5)│212820│235464│------│------┃*,279,332 (264)┃2009/03｜アイシールド21 34
│103333 (3)│183504│200971│210902│------┃*,244,240 (206)┃2009/05｜アイシールド21 35
│165014 (6)│212970│229606│236565│------┃*,255,635 (111)┃2009/08｜アイシールド21 36
│109645 (3)│184146│206279│------│220870┃*,228,368 (*52)┃2009/10｜アイシールド21 37

I'd also say its slightly above 20 MIllion as 20 mil was up till vol 35. I wouldn't really say this is low as the series was winding down and for lots of sports series that go this long, they start winding down towards the end. Prince of Tennis peaked with a print number of 1.11 million for volume 16 and even it winded down to around 300k for its last volume, volume 42.

 

[Tamil]

Don't they do that for every anime?
I don't get the hype the manga is bad what would make anyone think it being on television could be awesome. Seriously how can someone bring Black Clover and Studio Clown and magically believe the outcome will be positive. Not trying to hate I just don't see how it is possible to make it into a good anime

It could've been worse, i.e TOEI animation.

We all have problems with Pierrot's animation and fillers, but nobody here can say they don't know how to make a success.
Pierrot turned A LOT of medium-high success manga into awesome animes (in terms of sales, what really is important), even if anyone think "yeah they know how to make successful animes, but just old ones like Naruto and Toriko" we have Tokyo Ghoul to show de opposite.
Of course we have Sousei no Onmyouji, the anime did nothing to the manga sales and this CAN happen to Black Clover, but BC proved itself since the first chapter, the readers really like the series (the sales prove it) and, if the staff and Tabata are doing such a hard verification to guarantee the anime's quality, I really expect a great success.

I would rather have an anime that's moderately successful AND is a great adaptation (w/ good-amazing animation), rather than one that's very successful but a meh or bad adaptation (w/ mediocre animation).

 

[RafaFedKilla]

The Snack World should be the most anticipated spring anime. What is going on!?