I have to admit that I didn't read all posts, but I did see people saying that Toei do things for kids and I don't see things in Jump right now being for kids, so...
I'm not talking about popularity here, I don't give a shit for popularity when it comes to animes, an interesting story is what I'm looking for and most of the time I just watch what I've already read. Therefore, I just want quality of animation and Toei already proved to be lacking in this requisite. Before you say that they fix it for DVD/BD releases I will say that I don't care, I want to watch something of quality weekly, not wait for the DVD/BD versions. It is is possible, we see very good animations throughout the year by really competent animation studios.
I wouldn't give Toei all the credit for Dragon Ball and One Piece success. They were already very successful before the anime and they would probably achieve almost the same result with other studios. A good studio helps, but a really good series can achieve success even when the animation is not good.
What do you mean by "quality of animation". People love to shout this generic words that have no precise meaning at all. Is like shouting about morality.
"I wouldn't give Toei all the credit for Dragon Ball and One Piece success". By that way of thinking you shouldn't give all the credit for any anime success to their Anime Studio. And still, by doing that, even the scoring field, Toei would be above others studios, because it has the most successful series.
"They were already very successful before the anime". And? What your point here? Did other studios don't peak already successful series before the anime. Is this something just exclusive to Toei Animation? This "fact" is irrelevant when is something affected to everybody.
"They would probably achieve almost the same result with other studios". LOL, yep, what an amazing inference. We have the 2 biggest series out right now, and that got between the biggest boosts after anime, in almost all facets of the franchise. But "probably" they would achieve almost the same result with other studios.
The fact that for 60 years Toei Animation has always been the leading of the anime industry and had the most popular and liked series, it all about the series they chose to adapt, because is obvious those series would have almost the same result with any other studio. Is just that the other studios are dumb and don't like to make more money and be more popular. Certainly is because of that.
"A good studio helps, but a really good series can achieve success even when the animation is not good".
What has the animation anything to do with "success"? Because is totally misplaced in that statement. A series could have "no animation" and still be a successful one. And have "good animation" and still not be successful.
And what is this "animation is not good" here?
The way I see it, If we rate "animation" between 0 and 20, like in school(I understand that different countries have different classification systems), 0 to 9.5(excluding the 9.5) is not passable, and from 9.5 to 20 is a passable note. People will start calling "good" starting from around classifications of 12-13. So let's say 12.5 is where the good starts. This is still 7.5 points below the 20. So are you saying that Toei animation(whatever is the actual definition you're using for animation here) is below 12.5? Seriously? Yep, people are such masochist that watch hundreds or even thousand of below 12.5 grade episodes and keeps doing it.
