Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Nakura]

Is it confirmed for 2 cour?

Yes. The official website lists 8 BD/DVD boxsets, which equals 2 cours. The source code of the 'Episodes' page on the website also shows 25 episodes for season 2.

 

[SkerllyFC]

The episode was alright. I didn't really like Deku vs. Shinso in the manga so I wasn't expecting much out of it.

But holy shit the Sero vs. Todoroki was fucking great even though it lasted like 30 seconds. Sero's opening attack looked cool as hell, I almost wanted him to win even though I already knew the outcome. I rewatched that part a couple of times because it was awesome how he went from calmly stretching to attack mode right when the round started. Got my blood pumping.

I would be more happy, hadn't it been for what I saw in the next episode preview, which confirms my worst fear with this adaptation: not showing or extending some 1v1 fights that, while not important to the plot, would be good to watch on screen. I'm not enjoying this new season much for this issue, that I expected to be fixed from day 1.

 

[shoyoboyo]

I wouldn't really call it an issue when you're the only one who seems to have a problem with how it's handled.

 

[Nakura]

I would be more happy, hadn't it been for what I saw in the next episode preview, which confirms my worst fear with this adaptation: not showing or extending some 1v1 fights that, while not important to the plot, would be good to watch on screen. I'm not enjoying this new season much for this issue, that I expected to be fixed from day 1.

How can you possibly tell from just the preview? Next episode is only covering one chapter, so I can only assume they are extending fights.

 

[Tamil]

What do you guys think on the odds of Togashi returning with volume 34? Is that an indicator he's returning very soon?

 

[shoyoboyo]

http://kotaku.com/hunter-x-hunters-hiatus-will-continue-for-now-says-pub-1795156126
Here's your answer I guess. New pages are still undecided.

 

[SkerllyFC]

How can you possibly tell from just the preview? Next episode is only covering one chapter, so I can only assume they are extending fights.

Extending, for no more than 30 seconds, which is just as bad as off-screening them.

There exist a big hypocresy between manga readers: They read a manga, complain that is lacking character development. There comes the anime adaptation. One person says: "They should add more character development, or something to make it better than the manga". What manga readers say: "Are you crazy? It will be bad, It will ruin the pacing" and things like that.

 

[Nakura]

Extending, for no more than 30 seconds, which is just as bad as off-screening them.

Where are you getting the information that the fights in chapter 35 will only be extended for 30 seconds at most?

 

[savethecat]

Extending, for no more than 30 seconds, which is just as bad as off-screening them.

There exist a big hypocresy between manga readers: They read a manga, complain that is lacking character development. There comes the anime adaptation. One person says: "They should add more character development, or something to make it better than the manga". What manga readers say: "Are you crazy? It will be bad, It will ruin the pacing" and things like that.

I fully support adding things to improve the store, but this arc doesn't need entire episodes extending fights. 30seconds - a minute is good enough addition to fights we haven't seen. There's no need for Sports Festival to take up 15/16 episodes.
Also, so of these characters we learn more about and learn some of their history later in the manga. Revealing these things now would take away from the plot in later seasons(if they plan on doing a season 3 and beyond).

The reason anime rarely venture too far away from on going source material is because writers don't know how the plot and characters develop and it could ruin things in the long haul

 

[SkerllyFC]

The reason anime rarely venture too far away from on going source material is because writers don't know how the plot and characters develop and it could ruin things in the long haul

Will they ruin it? Ha ha ha ha. How can they? The best thing that could happen is to give some anime only viewers is some development about the characters sooner than later. Don't you like when they say: "Men, this character is so boring. There's nothing interesting about him/her"

 

[savethecat]

Will they ruin it? Ha ha ha ha. How can they? The best thing that could happen is to give some anime only viewers is some development about the characters sooner than later. Don't you like when they say: "Men, this character is so boring. There's nothing interesting about him/her"

Well say Momo. While she doesn't have much screen time in development in the sport festival arc, she does have an arc where she does develop in the future. Giving her development now wouldn't make sense.

But to take the that even further, say Bones decides to give development to a class B character that doesn't have any screen in this arc. However, Horikoshi may have plans for said character in the manga that's completely different from what Bones plans to do with the character in anime. So when Bones finally reaches the point where the character SHOULD get a lot of screen time it'll leave a inconsistency in the story.

DBZ anime faces this same issue and there's some inconsistencies in the anime due to the anime staff adding developments to the story.

Sure, they could approach Horikoshi about characters, but Horikoshi has enough work on his schedule with the weekly manga alone. And it's a lot of unnecessary extra fuss when they already have a perfectly good story arc to adapt on its own

 

[shoyoboyo]

Will they ruin it? Ha ha ha ha. How can they? The best thing that could happen is to give some anime only viewers is some development about the characters sooner than later. Don't you like when they say: "Men, this character is so boring. There's nothing interesting about him/her"

And those anime-only viewers are the ones who also complained about the slow pacing. Slowing down the pace even more by adding fluff where it isn't necessary would just have a negative impact on the viewing experience for many of the manga readers and anime-only viewers alike. We already have development for the characters that are relevant to the current plotline (Shinso and Todoroki, for example). Background characters like Class B and General Education students aren't as important as Class A because (surprise surprise), it's the class the main character is a part of.

While I do agree that we need development for some of the minor characters, that's more of a problem with Hori having to juggle an increasingly expanding cast than it is for Bones. Bones is doing just fine, and I've heard they added some small scenes that make things a bit more lively.

 

[tirakai]

Didn't we just have this discussion last week?

 

[Leoat12]

Didn't we just have this discussion last week?

You should have known by now that they repeat the same subject weekly.

Anyway, someone, please, comment when Uraraka x Bakugou happens. I don't watch animes anymore, but this fight I have to see.

 

[Nakura]

Anyway, someone, please, comment when Uraraka x Bakugou happens. I don't watch animes anymore, but this fight I have to see.

May 27th.

 

[Lortastic]

To be fair, you guys rotate between the exact same discussions each week for the last 394 pages and counting. It goes from vanilla discussion to extreme levels of mind boggling logic rofl

 

[shoyoboyo]

It could be worse. A discussion on the quality of Black Clover hasn't appeared in quite a while so I'd say we're doing just fine. At least the discussion about the state of female main characters was somewhat fresh.

 

[Leoat12]

It could be worse. A discussion on the quality of Black Clover hasn't appeared in quite a while so I'd say we're doing just fine. At least the discussion about the state of female main characters was somewhat fresh.

DON'T MENTION THIS SUBJECT EVER AGAIN. We don't need this returning.

Shokugeki no Soma has been great and nobody talks about it. Why is that?

 

[tirakai]

Most of the individual series' chapters don't get discussed in this thread unless they're too new for their own active topics or there's some kind of drama around it, Academia (and occasionally Neverland) are just an odd exception.

Personally I think it's because they both have a bunch of old Bleach fans that latched onto them, and Bleach fans for whatever reason have always been terrible for assuming that everyone reads the same series they do at the same time as they do (hence why they post unmarked spoilers wherever they feel like discussing them).

 

[Tamil]

DON'T MENTION THIS SUBJECT EVER AGAIN. We don't need this returning.

Shokugeki no Soma has been great and nobody talks about it. Why is that?

Actual the worst subject was the whole Togashi hiatus topic...a lot of people were just being ignorant.

It's not that great. I dropped it and it seems like people are still reading it for the ships. Which makes me think it's becoming like a FT 2.0. The writing may of improved but it went really downhill for me. I still follow the anime and while the OVA's are welcomed, I just feel like them covering canon material like that makes me believe a chance of season 3 or even 4 is very unlikely.

SnS anime did poorly. I think S2 sold like a painfully low amount of 800 copies (?) and the content they covered was my fav. arc in the series. They messed that arc up, it had pacing issues.