Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[G_I_A]

I'm seeing the dance manga hupla all over again. Here we go.

 

[Leoat12]

Shudan author is doing the things right way not showing that much of soccer in the second chapter. Since soccer is not the most interesting sports in the world, he really has to focus on the characters. This start has not been as impactful as Dance-bu, but it is two different series and the author is handling it well in my opinion. Putting a girl in the middle of the guys is also an interesting innovation that differentiate this series from the recent ones that failed that wanted to appeal to fujoishi (Tokyo Wonder Boys) or use the same old formula of dumb guy who don't know anything about the sport join the team (Ole Golazo). It is noticeable that these first two chapters didn't talk much about the sport, explained rules and all that, which normally happens. It seems that the series will be more about a team that happens to play soccer than about soccer itself, I like it.

 

[G_I_A]

Shudan author is doing the things right way not showing that much of soccer in the second chapter. Since soccer is not the most interesting sports in the world, he really has to focus on the characters. This start has not been as impactful as Dance-bu, but it is two different series and the author is handling it well in my opinion. Putting a girl in the middle of the guys is also an interesting innovation that differentiate this series from the recent ones that failed that wanted to appeal to fujoishi (Tokyo Wonder Boys) or use the same old formula of dumb guy who don't know anything about the sport join the team (Ole Golazo). It is noticeable that these first two chapters didn't talk much about the sport, explained rules and all that, which normally happens. It seems that the series will be more about a team that happens to play soccer than about soccer itself, I like it.

Then it's going the "days" way? Not sure if this can survive on jump but I hope it does. At least seems better than the dance manga.

 

[Leoat12]

It does resonate at us Brazilians because our childhood was pretty much like this, everybody likes soccer in this place and even those who don't like it and/or don't play well (I'm both XD) are almost obliged to play in school. XD
Japanese guys on the other hand... I don't know if it will have the same effect.

 

[G_I_A]

Indeed but, it's not common even for japanese people to have a girl playing with boys much less a MANGA on JUMP that put this into perspective. I don't know, we can have something unique here. The thing is, if this uniqueness will help it survive. I'm not sure. Will keep following it though.

Cross account however should die. It's a complete mess.

 

[Scruffy8642]

What part of "he is bland because it is the intention of the author" you didn't understand? I give up. Come back when you actually read the series, not read with bias.

Lol, I read with bias? I was expecting a lot out of this series and really wanted it to be good...
I still don't see how it's forgiveable just because it was done on purpose. Thats like saying "oh look here people, I made this series, but I purposely made every character bland because... STORY! You'll forgive me right? You'll buy hundreds of thousands lf copies, right?" Yeh, no. Try harder,

I'm wondering if you actually read the chapter despite criticizing me. It was not about MC being "bland", it was about MC struggling to be himself around others which resulted in a fake personality. Just happens that fake personality was "bland", but the autor literally could have made it anything else and it'd be more interesting. Hell, he could have been the most popular guy in school who was secretely an otaku but too afraid to show it and it would hardly even change the premise. Making the MC bland in this case is just the author being lazy and taking the easy way out.

On the other hand, Shudan is still great because it's not a typical sports manga, so it has a different audience and isn't competing with what's already there. Dude knew soccer was a failing sport in the magazine, so he did a new take on it. Just happens that new take was very much like his past series.

 

[Doughboy]

It really are arguments every time before the toc drops, giathuan wasn't lying. I wonder now, when it comes to romances what does everyone actually look for when they read them? Like specifically? There's always a majority but this thread seems to have people look for different things so I'm interested.

 

[Leoat12]

Indeed but, it's not common even for japanese people to have a girl playing with boys much less a MANGA on JUMP that put this into perspective. I don't know, we can have something unique here. The thing is, if this uniqueness will help it survive. I'm not sure. Will keep following it though.

Cross account however should die. It's a complete mess.

When I said that it was kind of abnormal people reacted here as if it was the most normal thing in the world, so I was worried that I was living in another dimension or something like that, but I see that it is not this way. xD
Yes, it is pretty much what will decide the success of the series, if the readers are willing to buy this innovation on the magazine.

You don't need to append this just to break our short harmony.
A little too hasty though, it was just one chapter. My opinion can change really fast as well as yours.

 

[Koi Kage]

It really are arguments every time before the toc drops, giathuan wasn't lying. I wonder now, when it comes to romances what does everyone actually look for when they read them? Like specifically? There's always a majority but this thread seems to have people look for different things so I'm interested.

What I look for in a romance series is: to at least be a semi-realistic take on how a relationship would start not the usual "hey I love with you and I've only known you for 2 seconds" thing let it be a slow build to it not and not be instantaneous, there is also the heavy us of the MC always finding his way into awkward situations with the girls causing a misunderstanding that and to not over use ecchi moments if it there it's fine but I prefer the whole series not capitalize on moments like these to often, and I guess the ultimate thing is actually give the girls some actual personality instead of just I'm in love with so and so and nothing else really matters(school, job, etc.) unless I end up with so and so to live happily ever after.

 

[G_I_A]

Normal? lol? How? Just... how?

The 冬の国立 (pretty much their Interhigh) is a big thing in Japan. Most of the winners ended up playing japan olympic team. But this is for male soccer only. There's no female divison (as far as I know)

Well I'm always in for a plot twist and a change of opinion but... Really, we're expecting this from Tokyo Wonder Boys mangaka? Nah...

Edit: I'm not a romance guy but... I really liked Ore Monogatari and Yamada-kun to 7nin no Majo (not jump or even shueisha though, so I'm sorry in advance) so... If JUMP can give me something appealing as that maybe I can give it a try... Maybe even a music + romance manga.

 

[TyVip]

It really are arguments every time before the toc drops, giathuan wasn't lying. I wonder now, when it comes to romances what does everyone actually look for when they read them? Like specifically? There's always a majority but this thread seems to have people look for different things so I'm interested.

For Shonen Jump, I care more about comedy and character design/personalities .

Romance manga done right would be Ore Monogatari and Oh My Goddess off the top of my head.

 

[HIGAN0]

30号

ヒロアカ
鬼滅
ネバラン
ハンタ　※Ｃカラー
シューダン　※増ページ
ソーマ
クロアカ　※Ｃカラー
ストーン
ハイキュー
MISTERIA　※読切Ｃカラー
ブラクロ
青春　※番外編あり
ゆらぎ
銀魂
火ノ丸　※増ページ
勉強
斉木
ロボ
マリー
磯兵衛

31号
巻頭：ゆらぎ※人気投票結果発表
Ｃカラー：ソーマ※ＪＣ発売記念　ストーン※ＪＣ発売記念　ネバラン※ＪＣ発売記念＆大人気御礼大増23ページ
増ページ：ネバラン、クロアカ
特別ギャグ読切15ページ：想いよ届け～物理的に届かない～（仁科翔）

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--- Double Post Merged, Jun 21, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 21, 2017 ---

Credit to Kaizou 10


Issue 30:
Boku no Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Yakusoku no Neverland
Hunter×Hunter (CP, Resume)
Shoodan!
Shokugeki no Souma
Cross Account (CP)
Dr. Stone
Haikyuu!!
Misteria -Kaiki Collection- (CP, One Shot)
Black Clover
Spring Weapon Number One
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Gintama
Hinomaru Zumou
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Robot×Laserbeam
Harapeko no Marie
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

One Piece (Absent)

Issue 31:
Lead CP: Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san (Character Popularity Poll Results)
CP: Shokugeki no Souma , Yakusoku no Neverland, Dr. Stone

 

[razerxs]

Dr. Stone knocked Black Clover out of the top 5.

 

[Nakura]

I hope Yuragi isn't getting blocked from the cover again.

 

[Koi Kage]

Dr. Stone knocked Black Clover out of the top 5.

Blame the hot springs chapter for Dr. Stone since it's the one being ranked this week and besides the chapter that's ranked this week for Black Clover nothing really happened in it other then the Kings introduction so not surprising.

Also didn't Dr. Stone just have a color page 2 weeks ago?

 

[TyVip]

You know what goes well with a lead colour page for issue #31? A cover page of the same series.

 

[crazybear1337]

I´m happy that Kimetsu is in first. Anyone know which chapter it´s the one being ranked this week?

 

[Leoat12]

Dead worried about "We Never Learn". We know that a series cannot survive in the magazine even with good sales from the first volume. The good thing is that Marie is already a good cushion and it seems Robot x Laserbeam will also get axed. I like Robot x Laserbeam, but if I haved to choose, "We Never Learn" is the choice, 100%.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Hope Yuragi gets cover too... wtf if they don't twice in a row...
Also somehow BC got knocked out of the top 5 with the main competition gone. Dr Stone beating it is massive BS tbh. Really glad for Yaiba and Neverland though . Things aren't looking too good for RxL at this time either.

Shokugeki, Neverland and Stone CPs are to commemorate their volume releases. Also Neverland and Cross Account get extra pages next week.

 

[WyldViolet]

Kuroko was no stranger to the bottom 5 at first either. Jump won't give up on it that fast

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 21, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 21, 2017 ---

Also, how is Kimetsu first place? I read here that its not that popular or the type of series to get an anime!?