Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Doughboy]

Yonkou posted some screenshots, first episode most definitely will look good:

Spoiler

but I saw this in the comments:

Wut... foreal? Is this like a reverse Yuzu-Ichigo type of relationship?

 

[Nakura]

Yonkou posted some screenshots, first episode most definitely will look good:

Spoiler

but I saw this in the comments:

Wut... foreal? Is this like a reverse Yuzu-Ichigo type of relationship?

It's true. There is a character that gets a bloody nose when thinking about his little sister. He's obsessed with her. He's actually really uncomfortable to watch at times.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

They really need to up the merchandise for Black Clover. I need some figures, ill settle for even prize figures at thia point.

 

[Leoat12]

My Hero Academia sexualize 15 years old girls? The girls barely appear like people complained here.

 

[Koi Kage]

Crunchyroll is hosting the N.American premier of Black Clover Episode in Atlanta, GA on September 29 at the Anime Weekend event. Very cool that it'll be shown early since at an event it has the potential to bring in a lot of watchers to the anime.

full story- https://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/new...s-irae-anime-at-anime-weekend-atlanta/.121761

 

[ChocoBar9]

My Hero Academia sexualize 15 years old girls? The girls barely appear like people complained here.

People complain about a shounen manga sexualizing teenagers?

 

[conankudo]

Woah how'd you manage to get this lol

Directly from viz.com

 

[Doughboy]

It's true. There is a character that gets a bloody nose when thinking about his little sister. He's obsessed with her. He's actually really uncomfortable to watch at times.

For whatever reason, Japan is just big on incest, lolis, and homosexual slapstick. Even after watching anime all these years I don't think I'll ever truly get the fascination behind it all.

People complain about a shounen manga sexualizing teenagers?

I'm guessing dude probably hasn't seen one image from the Boruto manga.

 

[Leoat12]

People complain about a shounen manga sexualizing teenagers?

I'm serious, I don't see Horikoshi sexualizing his characters, except for Mt. Lady, but she is older. Maybe I'm biased because of all the things all saw throughout my manga fan life *cof* Yuragi & TLR *cof*.
But yeah, I'm sure they are elementary school students, because it is not possible people 15 years above complain about such thing. xD

 

[TM2]

Could very well be just a fan's double standard without any self-awareness.

But ultimately irrelevant.

 

[Leoat12]

Which reminds us of a very important lesson: don't read and care about comments on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, MH.

 

[HIGAN0]

 

[De La Croissant]

Well, the costume of girls like Uraraka, Mina, Froppy and especially Momo make their curves very evident. And Horikoshi himself said he had a perverted side (Mineta would be the representation of that). But in terms of plot/character development (other than that stupid scene in which the scientist girl falls on top of the mc and some volume ilustrations), the author never used the girls' bodies as a plot device. But he also hardly uses them for anything in general, so it is natural that the design ends up provoking controversy. It is as if they existed only to be cute and sexy.

Maybe it's time for Horikoshi to stop reading only Spider-Man and Batman and start reading Ms Marvel and Moon Girl.

PS: I know that the girls 'costume are made that way for specific reasons (Momo's power comes from her skin), but it's also kind of obvious that the author uses it as an excuse to let his naughty side play.

 

[Leoat12]

Summer Time Render seems to be the most interesting one. At least it has best art of all.

 

[Inumaru]

Red Riot's uniform is basically shirtless. It's more revealing than any class 1-A girl uniform, besides Hagakure's, but hers doesn't count. And I don't see people complaining about that.

 

[Mawara]

Red Riot's uniform is basically shirtless. It's more revealing than any class 1-A girl uniform, besides Hagakure's, but hers doesn't count. And I don't see people complaining about that.

"Nudity" doesnt equal "nudity"-
Though i dont agree with the statement that MHA sexualizes its female cast, there's still a difference in these kind of things. In Red Riot's case, it's less about "fanservice" and more about that he looks strong, power fantasy for boys. Because, let's be honest, yes, I can imagine, that in the old Schwarzenegger & Stallone movies, when they run topless, that there certainly were women(and men) enjoying these views, it was presented and seen as "badass".
A manga, which is using men for fanservice is Food Wars/Shogeko no Souma, when they have their foodgasms.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Well, the costume of girls like Uraraka, Mina, Froppy and especially Momo make their curves very evident. And Horikoshi himself said he had a perverted side (Mineta would be the representation of that). But in terms of plot/character development (other than that stupid scene in which the scientist girl falls on top of the mc and some volume ilustrations), the author never used the girls' bodies as a plot device. But he also hardly uses them for anything in general, so it is natural that the design ends up provoking controversy. It is as if they existed only to be cute and sexy.

You know this is quite the double standard considering the males also wear tight outfits that show off their pecs or in Kirishima's case nothing at all and that guy is pretty much the only case of anyone complaining about the costume designs of the characters as being too sexual and all I can say to that is its pretty tame compared to the other titles in Jump like One Piece where Oda makes sure that every female character has an hour glass shape and a midriff that shows it off or in Souma were the female chef outfits are tight enough to how their whole figure and then you realize this is the same publication in which the most popular manga of all time had a 14 year old girl flash herself to an old man as a gag. Good times.

Maybe it's time for Horikoshi to stop reading only Spider-Man and Batman and start reading Ms Marvel and Moon Girl.

Ms Marvel is terrible now and Moon Girl has never been good. Marvels stigma against sexuality should not be taken any seriously because they're just doing it for brownie points for an audience that don't even read comic books and failing at it and its to the point that Captain Marvel doesn't even look like a woman anymore. The days where Jim Lee did pin-up art of all the female X-Men are now replaced with this abomination.

At least DC realized how stupid pandering to those standards were and changed back the original new 52 Wonder Woman's design with the leather pants to cover her legs back to her original Amazonian one.

PS: I know that the girls 'costume are made that way for specific reasons (Momo's power comes from her skin), but it's also kind of obvious that the author uses it as an excuse to let his naughty side play.

It helps that it makes sense in universe and that Momo isn't exploited as a result of it (at least in the manga anyways).

 

[Doughboy]

It's not really a big deal either way, doesn't block from the plot or affect their characters. They're in high school and that's theoretical time you see boys and girls mature and begin teetering on adulthood. Again, just flip through a few of the covers of Boruto to see the abysmal use of sexualizing young girls.

 

[Leoat12]

People used to praise My Hero Academia for having actual high school girls and not "high school girls" with melons in the place of the breasts, but after a commentary from elementary schoolers bickering about who's better, Black Clover or MHA (this is not even a conversation), MHA turned into an extremely sexist manga? xD

 

[Tanzo]