Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[DyanSon]

It's official Jujutsu Kaisen already surpass Dr Stone and BokuBen. A Natural success is really different than Artificial success.

 

[Nakura]

Shoseki Rankings (03/12-09/12)
1. One Piece #91
3. My Hero Academia #21
4. Haikyu!! #35
6. World Trigger #19
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #32
11. Jujutsu Kaisen #3
14. Jujutsu Kaisen #0
15. We Never Learn #9
17. Dr. Stone #8
20. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs #13
32. Hinomaru Sumo #23

30位27600/50位15000/100位8100/200位4300/300位3000/400位2250/500位1900

 

[CuriousReborn]

Jump push working as intended, last time Haikyuu and MHA ranked together the former had around 30k on the latter, wonder what is the difference between the two.

 

[FengarGB]

act-age galactic railroad arc is already better than the death island one, amazing surprise to have back to back great arcs.

 

[Cobra666]

So how many chapters before EiC totally gave up on pushing Dr. Stone? Zumou as a niche should be fine hanging low, Bokuben is performing as expected in its genre and Yuuna has a limited audience should be fine for now. Meanwhile Dr. Stone is dominating the TOC charts and while publicly groomed to be a potential top dog of this era by Shueisha. Now that Jujutsu and Act-age are overtaking Stone, it woud be easier to push those two due to their early success than Stone.

Kimetsu didn't really have the limelight early on so it's hard to see Shueisha giving Stone the leverage to perform bad (against expectation) at this period.

 

[FengarGB]

So how many chapters before EiC totally gave up on pushing Dr. Stone? Zumou as a niche should be fine hanging low, Bokuben is performing as expected in its genre and Yuuna has a limited audience should be fine for now. Meanwhile Dr. Stone is dominating the TOC charts and while publicly groomed to be a potential top dog of this era by Shueisha. Now that Jujutsu and Act-age are overtaking Stone, it woud be easier to push those two due to their early success than Stone.

Kimetsu didn't really have the limelight early on so it's hard to see Shueisha giving Stone the leverage to perform bad (against expectation) at this period.

Maybe until the results of the anime show up

 

[Franz]

Jujitsu already surpassed Dr Stone...

 

[Serinox]

a potential top dog of this era by Shueisha

"New Emperor" please, not just a lousy top dog. The EiC put so much effort, blood, sweat and tears into that branding, please use it accordingly

 

[savethecat]

I honestly don’t see Stone getting “pushed” more than any other series.

 

[FengarGB]

I honestly don’t see Stone getting “pushed” more than any other series.

It was definitely more "pushed" than a normal new series. I don't think that it being "pushed" was a bad thing, the magazine needs new success to survive, Dr. stone was a fair bet, i see as a natural choice.

 

[savethecat]

It was definitely more "pushed" than a normal new series. I don't think that it being "pushed" was a bad thing, the magazine needs new success to survive, Dr. stone was a fair bet, i see as a natural choice.

To me it doesn’t seem like it’s getting more color pages and covers than anything else. Or at least not significantly more.
And I don’t think we know enough about how the EIC decides the order of things to say it’s being overly pushed.

Just don’t get the narrative that the EIC has been desperately trying to force Stone down our throats and is failing

 

[CuriousReborn]

Tbf EiC have been trying to shove a lot of things down our throats. Also, it has been around 18 weeks since the last MHA color page.

 

[savethecat]

Tbf EiC have been trying to shove a lot of things down our throats. Also, it has been around 18 weeks since the last MHA color page.

Seems like MHA not having color pages is more of Horikoshi’s choice and not Jump’s

 

[CuriousReborn]

Seems like MHA not having color pages is more of Horikoshi’s choice and not Jump’s

Probably, he even tweeted an apology for not making the popularity poll with color page and asked people to wait. Hoping it is not something serious, but at least the magazine is getting a break soon so authors can have some room to relax.

 

[Serinox]

Probably, he even tweeted an apology for not making the popularity poll with color page and asked people to wait. Hoping it is not something serious, but at least the magazine is getting a break soon so authors can have some room to relax.

Except we had examples this year that a magazine break can mean that authors have to finish two chapters in one week before the break, instead of having an additional week of breathing room.

 

[xAsum0x]

MHA officially overtaking Haikyu as #2 in the magazine? This is MHAs second straight year beating it in years sales cause of backlog but not the individual volumes seem to be selling more, if not slightly.

 

[CuriousReborn]

Except we had examples this year that a magazine break can mean that authors have to finish two chapters in one week before the break, instead of having an additional week of breathing room.

Except this one is 2 weeks break and not one.
4/5 , 22 Dec 18 (saturday)
6/7 , 7 Jan 19
8, 21 Jan

 

[Serinox]

Except this one is 2 weeks break and not one.

That doesn't really change about the workload of mangaka potentially increasing during that time, intially.

 

[supercow297]

I read the first 8 pages of Neo;lation. Pages 4-8 are straight out of Gintama chapter 1. The similarity in the beginning of the two series is uncanny.



Check the overall pages 4-8 for the bigger picture; no single page is a perfect 1:1 correspondence, but I noticed the following:

1. Parents of protagonist/deuteragonist/tsukkomi-I'm-assuming died.
2. Sister of tsukkomi has to work at a restaurant-type store to feed younger brother
3. Sister and brother are hounded by creditors for their debt
4. Creditors taunt brother who is serving them a drink.
5. Protagonist sitting in the seat behind them, casually steals the scene by assaulting the creditors.

It's a common enough opening so it's too early to say anything worthwhile right now, I just thought it was a curiosity.

 

[xAsum0x]

How crazy and exciting it would be if Kishimoto dropped his new manga in Jump in 2019 and Kubo does Burn the Witch as well? One Piece in Wano, TPN, KnY in great arcs galaxy gangs serialization. 2019 would be special.