Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[ruggia]

I was wondering, what if Jump had a two-editor system? One is the official editor and the other is an understudy/intern of sorts. The official editor does most of the work, while the younger intern is allowed to attend the meetings so they could understand the different characters of each mangaka so they'd be ready to take over when the time comes.

Given editor shortage is one of the biggest problems in the market at the moment, I doubt even Jump has the resources to afford that.

 

[TyVip]

No, but if you pair an equally experienced editor with an experienced mangaka, wouldn't we see more consistency on the story's quality?

You’re not thinking long term.

Again, if jump did what you suggest then we wouldn’t have that many rookies hit

 

[Mammo]

Yuuna release date got moved again. Tell me something new.

drawing nipples is more time-consuming than previously thought

 

[101nemesis]

Lol, can't even break 300 yet. What a huge success.

Pretty much my point many pages ago. As a person who is just casually seeing the sales every volume, I can say that the increment is so minimal now.

 

[Franz]

Lol, can't even break 300 yet. What a huge success.

Are you trolling ?

Seriously, what are you trying to prove? You do not like the manga? Very well, but please do not cast these sterile criticism.

So is not a success for you because it has not exceeded 300?

But seriously?

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Going by Shoseki ranking, Black Clover boost is dead.

Wait for march...

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Pretty much my point many pages ago. As a person who is just casually seeing the sales every volume, I can say that the increment is so minimal now.

Black Clover is one of those series that will continue to rise up little by little. The good thing about this is that we'll never know how high will it get.

 

[Winter Soldier]

I am a casual user of this forum, but I still see the obvious obsession that some of you have in defending Black Clover from any criticism clearly. :v

 

[Franz]

I am a casual user of this forum, but I still see the obvious obsession that some of you have in defending Black Clover from any criticism clearly. :v

Honestly I would not call it criticism. To gloat and enjoy if a hated work does not reach 300 in my opinion is not criticism.

What then does not mean anything, of course, with the souls still at the beginning can not reach this figure.

 

[xAsum0x]

I am a casual user of this forum, but I still see the obvious obsession that some of you have in defending Black Clover from any criticism clearly. :v

Ppl are biased against Black Clover and bash it all the time as well. Goes both ways.

 

[Halloween]

It's not even criticism anymore. They're beating a dead horse that was mentally handicapped and paralyzed while alive.

It's almost like they're getting off by constantly bashing BC.

 

[Tamil]

Lmao so BC can't beat WT's sales? World Trigger please come back btw

 

[Mammo]

beating a dead horse that was mentally handicapped and paralyzed while alive.

honestly, this is the reason I've been avoiding any bc discussion lately, I feel after the whole LN and the AAAAAAAAAAAA-gate with anime

you can't really criticize BC, I mean what's the worst thing you can say that have not been said yet?

but then again when the author pulls shit like the big plot twist from today's chapter how can anyone not point and laugh?

was googling to see if anyone predict the plot twist online and I found a burn from the past thanks to 2016 @Rica_Patin

Spoiler: spoiler from black clover not so shocking reveal

 

[Franz]

Lmao so BC can't beat WT's sales? World Trigger please come back btw

?

Maybe i'm wrong but it deems to me that the sales of Black Clover are higher..

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but then again when the author pulls shit like the big plot twist from today's chapter how can anyone not point and laugh?

was googling to see if anyone predict the plot twist online and I found a burn from the past thanks to 2016 @Rica_Patin

Spoiler: spoiler from black clover not so shocking reveal

Seriuosly guys wats wrong with you?

It was obvious since the first chapter of the manga no one tried to make a revelation.

Even the author.

Please.

 

[Mammo]

Jigokuraku the new manga praised by Hori and Murata among others was picked up

http://fascans.com/series-en/jigokuraku-en/jigokuraku-1/

 

[Mawara]

I have a question for you guys: Do you all think it's wise to pair an inexperienced editor with a big name and vice versa? I can see Jump's logic for giving these inexperienced staff members a chance to work with experienced authors, but most of the time, from what I see is that it tends to make the stories suffer somewhat. What do you think?

I own Araki's book "Manga in Theory & Practice" and in this one, he says, that it's better to pair a newbie with an experienced editor, so that they'll be challenged and therefore produce quality content.
I do see his logic in this and kinda agree, tbh. On the one hand, I couldnt tell you what should be done with the inexperienced editors, but on the other hand I dont work for a manga magazine, so it's not my job to know

@ the discussion about Black Clover, its critics and its fans:
Call me boring, but I just lean back, read it and enjoy the ride.

 

[Franz]

Not gonna lie, it is pretty amusing seeing people bash on Black Clover. I still read it each week, but it deserves all the criticism it gets.

Bah.
Criticism is one thing, this seems to me a personal hate.
All manga have flaws, but gloat and reiterate every time "Ha ha ha, does not reach 300 that flop" is ridiculous to me.


For the last time, is not the flop that many of you think.

Before anime new volumes reached 150K (vol 11/12) in three weeks. Latest vol 14 sold 200K in three weeks. So it increased by 33% .BC's manga sells increase is relative to how much it sold on its merit, without anime.

Little by little the sales will grove.

 

[Nakura]

Please keep this chapter discussion in the Black Clover section. I haven't read the chapter yet.

 

[Obitooooo]

Lmao so BC can't beat WT's sales? World Trigger please come back btw

I can tell you that BC wins to WT for little (currently: You can increase the margin or lower it of course) - i stop spam

 

[Mammo]

Spoiler: black clover spoiler

"Vengeance and Licht are not the same person, Licht just posses Vengence"

this is gonna be the new

"Asta doesn't have a demon, it's inside his sword which only he can use!!! that's totally different!!"

or "Yuno isn't Asta's rival, they're best friend!! ignore the fact that Asta and Yuno call each other "my rival" all the time"

or "BCs anime fillers are not fillers, they're original content!! that's totally different!!"

I can see it happening based on the past patterns

 

[jagman1x3]

Please stop talking about Black Clover's plot in this thread. If you spoil a series outside of its own section in this th4ea then you're being a dick to people who haven't read it yet and may have been looking forward to it.
Since I don't read it myself I don't know what is or isn't a spoiler, so if this keeps up I'm going to just have to delete anything that looks like one. Please do not make it come to that.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Jigokuraku the new manga praised by Hori and Murata among others was picked up

http://fascans.com/series-en/jigokuraku-en/jigokuraku-1/

Wow that was a lot better than I expected. For some reason, the art really reminds me of Uratarou.