Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

Higher chances for an s2 than 2 cour thing.

 

[cody]

Looking through some ecchi centric anime adaptions (I only know the names of about 5 so take this with a grain of salt) most don't seem to go over a single cour. of 12 episodes in length at a time so saying it'll be 2 cours. may be pushing it a little its not out of the realm of possibility but it seems fairly low in my opinion.

I was looking at the Nisekoi anime, that had Aniplex backing it and it was also one of the bigger romcoms from WSJ from recent times. Shueisha also seem to be set to giving Yuuna the TLR treatment and that started off with a two cour anime.

Higher chances for an s2 than 2 cour thing.

This is also a big possibility, but it will depend on how well S1 does.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Or maybe it can be a split cour

 

[tirakai]

I wonder why Golem Hearts flopped so incredibly hard anyway, with Demon's Plan and U19 I can imagine those annoying the readers and putting off even the types who support everything but there's nothing particularly enraging about Demon's Plan that I can think of (aside from maybe the fake-out death I guess).

Has there been any negative discussion/hate on Japanese boards about the series? I can't imagine even a cancelled WSJ series not hitting the top 500 unless there's some serious issue people have with it or the creator.

 

[SharkBait]

I wonder why Golem Hearts flopped so incredibly hard anyway, with Demon's Plan and U19 I can imagine those annoying the readers and putting off even the types who support everything but there's nothing particularly enraging about Demon's Plan that I can think of (aside from maybe the fake-out death I guess).

Has there been any negative discussion/hate on Japanese boards about the series? I can't imagine even a cancelled WSJ series not hitting the top 500 unless there's some serious issue people have with it or the creator.

You would invest in a cancelled manga and add it to your bookshelf?

 

[tirakai]

Most instantly cancelled wsj series at least rank better than 300 never mind worse than 500, some of them have even come close to top 50 (did Amalgam make it into the top 50 or just outside it? I forget).

 

[ShenGao]

I wonder why Golem Hearts flopped so incredibly hard anyway, with Demon's Plan and U19 I can imagine those annoying the readers and putting off even the types who support everything but there's nothing particularly enraging about Demon's Plan that I can think of (aside from maybe the fake-out death I guess).

Has there been any negative discussion/hate on Japanese boards about the series? I can't imagine even a cancelled WSJ series not hitting the top 500 unless there's some serious issue people have with it or the creator.

Oh, there are many issues with Golem Hearts. For example no explanation about the different golem arts levels and that the higher level ones are just more difficult to create, that Noah's father was a failure of a golem maker but somehow was able to create a golem with a soul, human levels of intelligence and own decision making skills, that Noah's golem making skills were the same as his father's and just like him he was able to asspull the best arts whenever the plot demanded it like that level 5 paladin art, that Noah's "rival" is a twenty times bigger edgelord than Sasuke with a fifty times worse reason to be such an edgelord, that after 4 chapters a 5 years timeskip happened, that Noah's whole motivation of becoming the number one of something is dead beaten trope, fake out deaths happening two times within 10 chapters, and there's more.

 

[Avok]

Volume #1 has five 1-star reviews on Amazonjp. The Japanese HATE it.

 

[cody]

Volume #1 has five 1-star reviews on Amazonjp. The Japanese HATE it.

I wouldn't use that as a metric and I wouldn't take Amazon reviews seriously to be honest.

 

[Franz]

Probably made his debut in the wrong times.

 

[Avok]

I wouldn't use that as a metric and I wouldn't take Amazon reviews seriously to be honest.

Awful rankings and sold like 2000 copies. I guess the reviews are in line with how the Japanese feel about it.

 

[TyVip]

It doesn't matter when Golem Hearts get serialized, it will be bottom feeder for other series.

I can't imagine even a cancelled WSJ series not hitting the top 500 unless there's some serious issue people have with it or the creator.

Yeah there is and it's called Buddy Strike. It doesn't even have a volume released to not hit top 500. Glad Kaito find success in Ao no Flag, romance is her strong suit.

 

[tirakai]

That's pretty typical bad battle shounen stuff though, it's not quite on the level of U19's preachy politics in terms of being potentially rage-inducing. Personally I think it's pretty bad, I'm just curious if people have seen anything specific on why the Japanese readers hate it so much.

I suppose I can see it being a symbol of all the typical bad wsj failed battle shounen cliches though, it does fall into pretty much every trap possible (taking 4 weeks for the basic intro that should be ch 1, nonsensical badly explained power system, shock value 'deaths' that mean nothing, early timeskip because the writer's too lazy to actually show the character progressing, edgy rival because DBZ and Naruto had them without understanding what made them compelling).

And there's not really anything one thing it does well to draw people in who can look past the bad points (most instant failures at least have a cool/cute character or something but Golem Hearts really has nothing).

 

[Tamil]

 

[Nemesis]

So, Golem Hearts and Full Drive ended? Is that confirmed?

 

[cody]

So, Golem Hearts and Full Drive ended? Is that confirmed?

Yes, here's the comments the two authors had.

 

[SharkBait]

Im surprised some of these artists just dont continue their stories for fun on pixiv or etc, could be a way to at least cultivate their own personal fandoms.

 

[Yaiba]

It's the end.

 

[De La Croissant]

Yes, here's the comments the two authors had.

Regardless of whether I have liked or not these titles, I feel for these guys. They probably spent months creating characters, arcs, design, background, dreaming of being next to their idols, dreaming of making a career. It must be hard. Especially in a country where work is placed above all else.

 

[Halloween]

Regardless of whether I have liked or not these titles, I feel for these guys. They probably spent months creating characters, arcs, design, background, dreaming of being next to their idols, dreaming of making a career. It must be hard. Especially in a country where work is placed above all else.

I always feel that way with cancelled series. I think these guys just need writers to be paired with, and they'd do okay.