Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Obitooooo]

Really, because my research tells me Black Clover is doing way worse than World Trigger at this point.

World Trigger Volumes 10 to 14:
│156001 (5)│206563│229063│******│257245┃*,371,416 (264)┃2015/03｜ワールドトリガー 10
│167149 (4)│227858│254340│269102│------┃*,350,637 (172)┃2015/06｜ワールドトリガー 11
│147368 (3)│241891│272018│292349│------┃*,325,690 (*80)┃2015/09｜ワールドトリガー 12
│146833 (3)│243294│273241│292706│------┃*,392,138 (353)┃2015/12｜ワールドトリガー 13
│156433 (3)│257631│289571│******│319631┃*,381,789 (262)┃2016/03｜ワールドトリガー 14

Black Clover volumes 10 to 14:
│*66723 (3)│121879│140385│------│------┃*,140,385 (*17)┃2017/03｜ブラッククローバー 10
│107704 (6)│136682│150383│------│------┃*,150,383 (*20)┃2017/05｜ブラッククローバー 11
│*69741 (3)│128256│149552│------│------┃*,149,552 (*17)┃2017/08｜ブラッククローバー 12
│100937 (5)│144506│165512│180954│194163┃*,194,163 (*33)┃2017/10｜ブラッククローバー 13
│140431 (7)│182561│203018│222412│238929┃*,238,929 (*35)┃2017/12｜ブラッククローバー 14

My point are total sales, not sales for volumen ( When I say that he does better is from the total sales he has when the anime started ) And the year to compare is 2015 ( WT ) Vs 2018 (BC)

PD : The point of reference is volumen 8 WT and 13 Black clover ( first volume since the anime )

│*69982 (3)│114309│------│------│------┃*,114,309 (*10)┃2014/10｜ワールドトリガー 8
│153824 (7)│185799│******│211593│------┃*,361,399 (322)┃2015/01｜ワールドトリガー 9
Vs
│100937 (5)│144506│165512│180954│194163┃*,194,163 (*33)┃2017/10｜ブラッククローバー 13
│140431 (7)│182561│203018│222412│238929┃*,238,929 (*35)┃2017/12｜ブラッククローバー 14

 

[Leoat12]

What I do not understand is why you insist on considering current sales without calculating future ones ....

Because the future hasn't happened yet, it is quite simple. We are not going to assume things that may not happen, you are talking about the present here, not an assumed future.

 

[TyVip]

I have the easiest solution here.

Just wait for print circulation. In theory it should be on the next volume.

Also nemesis, soma peaked at 550k.

 

[Inumaru]

2018 Average TOC ranking. (issue 1-12)
One Piece 1,37
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
Boku no Hero Academia 5,62
Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 5,88
Haikyu!! 7,00
Hunter x Hunter 8,00
Hinomaru Zumou 8,57
Shokugeki no Soma 8,66
Gintama 9,66
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 10,62
Spring Weapon No.1 11,30
Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

 

[101nemesis]

I have the easiest solution here.

Just wait for print circulation. In theory it should be on the next volume.

Also nemesis, soma peaked at 550k.

Oh, typing error. Changed.

What I do not understand is why you insist on considering current sales without calculating future ones ....

What Leoat said. We take the data we currently have and not assume what's going to come in the future. It'd be like how some predicted Toriko would surpass Bleach but never came close. If it was so easy to predict how much a series would sell, WSJ would've had multiple million sellers in every round.

 

[SharkBait]

HeroAca lost its top 5 spot

 

[tirakai]

HeroAca lost its top 5 spot

It did have a few surprisingly low rankings after all.

Plus it's already big so it doesn't need the constant promotion any more anyways, might as well save the top spots for stuff without anime yet.

 

[101nemesis]

2018 Average TOC ranking. (issue 1-12)
One Piece 1,37
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
Boku no Hero Academia 5,62
Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 5,88
Haikyu!! 7,00
Hunter x Hunter 8,00
Hinomaru Zumou 8,57
Shokugeki no Soma 8,66
Gintama 9,66
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 10,62
Spring Weapon No.1 11,30
Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

Go Kimetsu!

 

[ShenGao]

Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

Now that these 4 are gone RxL is in a very bad position. If Bozebeats and Act-Age rank better thant RxL there is no reason to keep it in the magazine. Combined with the declining sales it is doomed.

 

[SharkBait]

I hope rxl replacement is a high school boys baseball manga.

 

[DyanSon]

GO SUPER PUSH

 

[De La Croissant]

2018 Average TOC ranking. (issue 1-12)
One Piece 1,37
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
Boku no Hero Academia 5,62
Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 5,88
Haikyu!! 7,00
Hunter x Hunter 8,00
Hinomaru Zumou 8,57
Shokugeki no Soma 8,66
Gintama 9,66
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 10,62
Spring Weapon No.1 11,30
Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

Why am I not surprised? Until those titles get animated, that will not change.

 

[cody]

2018 Average TOC ranking. (issue 1-12)
One Piece 1,37
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
Boku no Hero Academia 5,62
Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 5,88
Haikyu!! 7,00
Hunter x Hunter 8,00
Hinomaru Zumou 8,57
Shokugeki no Soma 8,66
Gintama 9,66
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 10,62
Spring Weapon No.1 11,30
Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

I'll say it again. Kimetsu, Neverland (&Dr. Stone) anime adaptations when? The first two must have something coming up soon, right?

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 18, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 18, 2018 ---

Why am I not surprised? Until those titles get animated, that will not change.

"
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
"
But wait, Black Clover is animated.

 

[De La Croissant]

2018 Average TOC ranking. (issue 1-12)
One Piece 1,37
Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
Boku no Hero Academia 5,62
Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 5,88
Haikyu!! 7,00
Hunter x Hunter 8,00
Hinomaru Zumou 8,57
Shokugeki no Soma 8,66
Gintama 9,66
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 10,62
Spring Weapon No.1 11,30
Robot×Laserbeam 12,11
Cross Account 13,40
Shudan! 13,75
Full Drive 14,66
Golem Hearts 15,12

Poor boy, it was kicked out of the group.

 

[SharkBait]

If neverland is really 50% over they should just start the anime when its almost over and adapt it all in 2 12 ep seasons.

 

[De La Croissant]

I'll say it again. Kimetsu, Neverland (&Dr. Stone) anime adaptations when? The first two must have something coming up soon, right?

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 18, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 18, 2018 ---

"Kimetsu no Yaiba 2,75
Dr. Stone 2,83
Yakusoku no Neverland 3,14
Black Clover 4,00
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 5,37
"
But wait, Black Clover is animated.

In BC's case, the task is bigger: become the new Naruto

 

[cody]

In BC's case, the task is bigger: become the new Naruto

Ah, no big deal then, it's only 215 million copies behind.

And regarding Robo.
Little do you know, RxL has already established itself as the next big Fujo sports series, it doesn't need good TOC placements, it's basically Kuroko 2.0.

 

[ShenGao]

In BC's case, the task is bigger: become the new Naruto

When they try to push Black Clover as the new Naruto instead of Naruto's own son, Boruto.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Why am I not surprised? Until those titles get animated, that will not change.

Yeah its quite said how obvious they're being with this PUSH Campaign

 

[nonowa]

What are other series like Kimetsu that started badly in volume sales but managed to start growing further after volume 5?