Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Tarot]

People trying to convince us that a studio will give up of a Jump successful manga anime adaptation is cute. XD

Yeah, remember Slam Dunk or Bleach?

 

[SharkBait]

but looking at it from a business perspective, if a product is making you tons of money and is only growing

Theres numerous adaptations that never completed or finished adapting content even if they were successful at driving sales of the adapted property.

 

[Franz]

Yeah, remember Slam Dunk or Bleach?

Steps Slam Dunk, but the sales and popularity of Bleach when they canceled the anime were in free fall ...

 

[101nemesis]

Yeah, remember Slam Dunk or Bleach?

I do not know about Slam Dunk but Bleach hit it's peak and was declining prior to the anime ending. 1.3million peak sales in mid arrancar to about 750k for Fullbring arc. The anime ended only after it animated the fullbring arc so your argument for Bleach is invalid and pretty much proves what we have been saying that if a series goes past its peak and declines, the anime will end.

 

[xAsum0x]

Theres numerous adaptations that never completed or finished adapting content even if they were successful at driving sales of the adapted property.

So provide examples of manga series that had successful animes and were constantly growing only for the studio to drop the project all together for whatever random reason

 

[Tarot]

Steps Slam Dunk, but the sales and popularity of Bleach when they canceled the anime were in free fall ...

I do not know about Slam Dunk but Bleach hit it's peak and was declining prior to the anime ending. 1.3million peak sales in mid arrancar to about 750k for Fullbring arc. The anime ended only after it animated the fullbring arc so your argument for Bleach is invalid and pretty much proves what we have been saying that if a series goes past its peak and declines, the anime will end.

So you're saying Jump's going to give up on Haikyuu and Hunter x Hunter?

 

[101nemesis]

So you're saying Jump's going to give up on Haikyuu and Hunter x Hunter?

If Haikyuu!!'s decline starts to really show and does not stabilize, then yes. It's happened to every series out there. Prince of Tennis being the other top selling sports series that had it's anime end way before the manga did.
HxH will always be an exception because the manga itself is an exception. I don't think we will get enough material for another 100 episodes very soon anyway.

 

[Tarot]

So provide examples of manga series that had successful animes and were constantly growing only for the studio to drop the project all together for whatever random reason

Kimi ni Todoke and Slam Dunk are the easiest examples. I'd add Haikyuu too because it seems the director for the anime wants to work on other projects and the studio seems busy at the moment.

 

[Obitooooo]

4-koma Psi will be just one page in each issue.
In march, in some shop, he will be possible to have a cover of Black Clover by My Hero Academia author & cover of My Hero Academia by Black Clover author. Preview of this cover is in #14.

It´s a gift for the buy of volume 15

 

[ChocoBar9]

Yeah, remember Slam Dunk or Bleach?

One series that got canned after the run of the manga and another that got canned during it due to poor ratings?

 

[Luca11]

There are plenty of factors that can derail an anime projects that we will never know of. Directors and studios are really minor players in the grand scheme of things.

A studio could drop a project if talks between them and the production committee fall through, no matter how passionate the staff are.

A production committee could also drop a project if no agreements can be reached between the sponsors and the license owners for instance.

Anime production is a complicated affair that mortals like us couldn’t really understand/have enough information.

Edit: fixing grammar

 

[SharkBait]

Isnt that the old arts?

 

[101nemesis]

Kimi ni Todoke and Slam Dunk are the easiest examples. I'd add Haikyuu too because it seems the director for the anime wants to work on other projects and the studio seems busy at the moment.

You mean Kimi Ni Todoke, the series that used to sell 1million+ and now sells around 600k? Yeah, ok. Still proving our case here.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Thinking about future of comedy in Jump, I see two possible hopes:
-Noah Notes by Ikezawa: we know it's a gyarus manga. Still, it can be a serious one (my personal bet since Mononofu and Kusanagi had that serious touch), or a gag one (we should get a little hint in next number preview, or by Viz in Monday)
-That ''Sakamoto-kun becomes a Jump mangaka'' by 2016 GFC winner (I'm still surprised it didn't enter in this serialization since Poro-kun entered last year in January. I've read the oneshot, and I have the sensation this title would be a success in Jump).

Hey man would you mind passing that one shot, being interested in checking it out for a while. I was even excited when it was rumored to be finally being serialized only to turn out to be fake

 

[SharkBait]

Kimi ni Todoke and Slam Dunk are the easiest examples. I'd add Haikyuu too because it seems the director for the anime wants to work on other projects and the studio seems busy at the moment.

Kingdom should actually be the easiest example. Its explosive popularity, as dictated by the rules of anime production that people are pioneering in this thread, would have lead to multiple more season being made.

Kurobas too, since it had and was still popular it should have continued being made with original content like Naruto and other series. Tv anime of the Vorpal Swords saga as well.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Nah, the movie sucked. It was just fanservice and even then it wasn't good fanservice.

 

[Doughboy]

There are plenty of factors that can derail an anime projects that we will never know of. Directors and studios are really minor players in the grand scheme of things.

A studio could drop a project if talks between them and the production committee falls through, no matter how passionate the staff are.

A production committee could also drop a project if no agreements can be reached between the sponsors and the license owners for instance.

Anime production is a complicated affair that mortals like us couldn’t really understand/have enough information.

I rather people come out and say this then say "I think" "I feel" "this series did" "I follow blogs". Facts is MHA as of last yearly Oricon is on the come up. TOHO wants to makes it a 10 year anime. If you say a Food Wars S4 I can understand the doubt cause the decline is noticeable. Bleach was on a downward spiral and anime got dumped, FT was on a downward spiral and is getting a third season. This argument is as baseless as the weekly "KnY anime speculation and rants". There's arguments to counter everything, no one here works for Bones or has sources. Let's just go off what has been stated on record and go from there. MHA is on the rise and when it starts to decline we can revisit it. I can see a locked in 5 seasons of 24/25 episodes w/ filler.

 

[MangAniMY]

Hey man would you mind passing that one shot, being interested in checking it out for a while. I was even excited when it was rumored to be finally being serialized only to turn out to be fake

We can still hope, we had 4 series booted and only get 3 new ones announced as of now,
(and HXH is nearing its hiatus and Gintama ending (maybe) soonish, but those are uncertain values)

 

[101nemesis]

Kingdom should actually be the easiest example. Its explosive popularity, as dictated by the rules of anime production that people are pioneering in this thread, would have lead to multiple more season being made.

Kurobas too, since it had and was still popular it should have continued being made with original content like Naruto and other series. Tv anime of the Vorpal Swords saga as well.

Kingdom's anime first season was poorly made CGI nonsense. Season 2 was better but just OK at best in animation quality because they still used CGI nonsense.
At the point of time the anime was made, Kingdom sales peaked at 450k, if i'm not mistaken. Almost 2 years AFTER the anime ended, kingdom's popularity doubled because it got mentioned on a radio show or something. So it had nothing to do with the anime. If they remake the anime, you can be damn sure that Kingdom would become a million+ seller. And with the quality of the manga and the story, I'd say the anime can keep going because the sales would be able to stabilize pretty well.

KnB is a poor example. It followed it's source material and ended at it's peak. Nothing more was required.

 

[cody]

I rather people come out and say this then say "I think" "I feel" "this series did" "I follow blogs". Facts is MHA as of last yearly Oricon is on the come up. TOHO wants to makes it a 10 year anime. If you say a Food Wars S4 I can understand the doubt cause the decline is noticeable. Bleach was on a downward spiral and anime got dumped, FT was on a downward spiral and is getting a third season. This argument is as baseless as the weekly "KnY anime speculation and rants". There's arguments to counter everything, no one here works for Bones or has sources. Let's just go off what has been stated on record and go from there. MHA is on the rise and when it starts to decline we can revisit it. I can see a locked in 5 seasons of 24/25 episodes w/ filler.

Oh, could it be that Kimetsu no Yaiba anime speculations bother you? That's a shame, but it is a manga from WSJ. They aren't weekly though..