Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

Comiq was cute, I loved the reading of the shojo jump scene in the cafe and the Tee-Hee's from the girls.
My Love Swings Like a Grandfather Clock

I can only keep thinking of YGO ARC Swing Pendulum of the Soul PENDULUM SHOKAN

Also having a Mute character feels refreshing for JUMP.

 

[Tamil]

You have no idea how much I want to hug you right now, man!
Guess SQ will be happy to get WT given Wt used to sell 300+k. Even if it halved after 2 years of hiatus it still will be selling far more than lots of other SQ series meaning more fans will care to buy SQ magazine to read the new WT chapters.

I dont think the sales will drop that hard. The latest volume (vol.18) that was released in 2017 still sold a lot, more so than BC . It was more or less the same sales as the previous volumes, pretty impressive considering it was at indefinite hiatus at that point.

It's still a 300k+ seller.

Spoiler

●ワールドトリガー
│ 初動 (日)│２週計｜３週計｜４週計｜５週計┃　　累計 (日数)┃発売日.│タイトル
│**圏外 (4)│------│------│------│------┃*,**,圏外 (**4)┃2013/07｜ワールドトリガー 1 ※初動18,384以下
│*31157 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*31,157 (**5)┃2013/09｜ワールドトリガー 2
│*50838 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*50,838 (**5)┃2013/12｜ワールドトリガー 3
│*60815 (6)│*76379│------│------│------┃*,*76,379 (*13)┃2014/02｜ワールドトリガー 4
│*48381 (3)│*83676│------│------│------┃*,*83,676 (*10)┃2014/04｜ワールドトリガー 5
│*77173 (5)│100792│------│------│------┃*,100,792 (*12)┃2014/06｜ワールドトリガー 6
│*82179 (4)│113357│******│131829│------┃*,131,829 (*25)┃2014/09｜ワールドトリガー 7
│*69982 (3)│114309│------│------│------┃*,114,309 (*10)┃2014/10｜ワールドトリガー 8
│153824 (7)│185799│******│211593│------┃*,361,399 (322)┃2015/01｜ワールドトリガー 9
│156001 (5)│206563│229063│******│257245┃*,371,416 (264)┃2015/03｜ワールドトリガー 10
│167149 (4)│227858│254340│269102│------┃*,350,637 (172)┃2015/06｜ワールドトリガー 11
│147368 (3)│241891│272018│292349│------┃*,325,690 (*80)┃2015/09｜ワールドトリガー 12
│146833 (3)│243294│273241│292706│------┃*,392,138 (353)┃2015/12｜ワールドトリガー 13
│156433 (3)│257631│289571│******│319631┃*,381,789 (262)┃2016/03｜ワールドトリガー 14
│159437 (3)│264097│295120│313678│------┃*,375,944 (171)┃2016/06｜ワールドトリガー 15
│143333 (3)│250253│282655│304311│------┃*,344,137 (*80)┃2016/09｜ワールドトリガー 16
│133843 (3)│243575│277049│******│310657┃*,366,475 (353)┃2016/12｜ワールドトリガー 17
│137262 (3)│241796│275748│------│------┃*,349,989 (262)┃2017/03｜ワールドトリガー 18

 

[ChocoBar9]

Let's hope he doesn't go the way of Hoshino, get so sick that you switch from monthly to bi-monthly and then seasonal. SQ is garbage with nothing worth reading in its lineup unless you like exorcists or gay vampires or gay exorcist vampires but meh as long as World Trigger is back it can be in Grand Jump for all I care.

 

[James Rye]

I dont think the sales will drop that hard. The latest volume (vol.18) that was released in 2017 still sold a lot, more so than BC . It was more or less the same sales as the previous volumes, pretty impressive considering it was at indefinite hiatus at that point.

It's still a 300k+ seller.

Spoiler

●ワールドトリガー
│ 初動 (日)│２週計｜３週計｜４週計｜５週計┃　　累計 (日数)┃発売日.│タイトル
│**圏外 (4)│------│------│------│------┃*,**,圏外 (**4)┃2013/07｜ワールドトリガー 1 ※初動18,384以下
│*31157 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*31,157 (**5)┃2013/09｜ワールドトリガー 2
│*50838 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*50,838 (**5)┃2013/12｜ワールドトリガー 3
│*60815 (6)│*76379│------│------│------┃*,*76,379 (*13)┃2014/02｜ワールドトリガー 4
│*48381 (3)│*83676│------│------│------┃*,*83,676 (*10)┃2014/04｜ワールドトリガー 5
│*77173 (5)│100792│------│------│------┃*,100,792 (*12)┃2014/06｜ワールドトリガー 6
│*82179 (4)│113357│******│131829│------┃*,131,829 (*25)┃2014/09｜ワールドトリガー 7
│*69982 (3)│114309│------│------│------┃*,114,309 (*10)┃2014/10｜ワールドトリガー 8
│153824 (7)│185799│******│211593│------┃*,361,399 (322)┃2015/01｜ワールドトリガー 9
│156001 (5)│206563│229063│******│257245┃*,371,416 (264)┃2015/03｜ワールドトリガー 10
│167149 (4)│227858│254340│269102│------┃*,350,637 (172)┃2015/06｜ワールドトリガー 11
│147368 (3)│241891│272018│292349│------┃*,325,690 (*80)┃2015/09｜ワールドトリガー 12
│146833 (3)│243294│273241│292706│------┃*,392,138 (353)┃2015/12｜ワールドトリガー 13
│156433 (3)│257631│289571│******│319631┃*,381,789 (262)┃2016/03｜ワールドトリガー 14
│159437 (3)│264097│295120│313678│------┃*,375,944 (171)┃2016/06｜ワールドトリガー 15
│143333 (3)│250253│282655│304311│------┃*,344,137 (*80)┃2016/09｜ワールドトリガー 16
│133843 (3)│243575│277049│******│310657┃*,366,475 (353)┃2016/12｜ワールドトリガー 17
│137262 (3)│241796│275748│------│------┃*,349,989 (262)┃2017/03｜ワールドトリガー 18

If Vol.19 would sell at 300k as its previous volumes, that would be great. It might be the biggest motivation boost for Ashihara seeing how many of his fans kept loyal to even after 2 years of hiatus. If it manages to outsell BC again that would be the cherry on top of it all.^^

 

[SharkBait]

If it manages to outsell BC again that would be the cherry on top of it all.^^

Impossible. I love WT to death, but no way is it BC level.

 

[ShenGao]

Impossible. I love WT to death, but no way is it BC level.

Yeah, WT is 2 levels above BC.

 

[SharkBait]

Way too much crazy talk in this thread.

 

[shoyoboyo]

World Trigger DESTROYS Clovertard using FACTS and LOGIC (14:27)

 

[MangAniMY]

I mean BC still haven't reach 250k in a month, and WT was doing consistently above that, it may or may not immediately recover all the sales (going on hiatus at its peaks make me lean towards it will) but it was doing better than what BC is doing now

Spoiler: don't you dare

play the digital card

 

[SharkBait]

When World Trigger was running Digital manga sales was only a fraction of importance as to what they were when BLack Clover was/is ramping up. Peak World Trigger sales were more heavily skewed towards print sales, so its strongly suggested and highly implied that BLack Clover out paces and out performs World Trigger using our confidence interval factor that digital sales are approximately 50 - 75% of the print number for BLack Clover.

 

[Franz]

I dont think the sales will drop that hard. The latest volume (vol.18) that was released in 2017 still sold a lot, more so than BC

Who did not have the anime yet .....

And anyway.

Word Trigger:

3.500.000

Black Clover:

6.500.000

If Vol.19 would sell at 300k as its previous volumes, that would be great. It might be the biggest motivation boost for Ashihara seeing how many of his fans kept loyal to even after 2 years of hiatus. If it manages to outsell BC again that would be the cherry on top of it all.^^

But now there's the anime of Black Clover and the Jump is giving him a lot of space,

I would not be so sure ....

When WT went to hatus BC it was not as famous as now,

I mean BC still haven't reach 250k in a month, and WT was doing consistently above that, it may or may not immediately recover all the sales (going on hiatus at its peaks make me lean towards it will) but it was doing better than what BC is doing now

Even with the anime and the emerging merchandasing?

 

[MangAniMY]

Who did not have the anime yet .....

And anyway.

Word Trigger:

3.500.000

Black Clover:

6.500.000



But now there's the anime of Black Clover and the Jump is giving him a lot of space,

I would not be so sure ....

When WT went to hatus BC it was not as famous as now,



Even with the anime and the emerging merchandasing?

ブラッククローバー（1～17巻） 650万部 BC

ワールドトリガー（1～11巻） 350万部 WT

sure.. compare 17 volumes with 11 volume.


edit:
3.5M PRINT was for 11 Volumes of WT (from feb 2016)
6.5M PRINT was for 17 volume of BC (from aug 2018)



also, a conservative estimate would put WT at 6.5M too


we are talking about manga sales

 

[Franz]

sure.. compare 17 volumes with 11 volume.

But the anime of BC started late compared to the manga, what comparison is it? WT started a year later, a logical one that immediately influenced sales.

also, a conservative estimate would put WT at 6.5M too

Conservative estimate:
Word Trigger:

3.500.000

Black Clover:

6.500.000

we are talking about manga sales

Even this are the dates.

In any case, the anime continues, the merchandising is expanding, I do not see why it should sell less considering that if it will become monthly, fewer volumes will be released every year.

 

[Tamil]

LMAO, these BC fans sure are amusing. With all that push, BC still cant even come close to WT sales. That's not even including the fact that WT is a far better manga.

 

[SharkBait]

Conservative estimate:
Word Trigger:

3.500.000

Black Clover:

6.500.000

Thank you, we have actuals and some people are still using estimates to push their own agendas. To quore Horikoshi: "Shameful".

 

[Franz]

LMAO, these BC fans sure are amusing.

Here it is not a question of being a fan or not ...

With all that push, BC still cant even come close to WT sales.

Because I imagine you have data for all future sales from now on.
And the fate that compelssivamente BC has sold three million more does not count anything eh?

That's not even including that WT is far better written too.

What's that got to do with it now?

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I'm not entering in this war. Just hoping Black Clover next volume beats records thanks to a certain cute royal girl with silver hair.

In other order of news:

 

[Franz]

I'm not entering in this war.

There is no war, do not worry. I withdraw,

 

[MangAniMY]

But the anime of BC started late compared to the manga, what comparison is it? WT started a year later, a logical one that immediately influenced sales.

3.5M PRINT was for 11 Volumes of WT (from feb 2016)
6.5M PRINT was for 17 volume of BC (from aug 2018)

I'm not my computer so it is hard to show the LTD chart but trust me by December we will get a new WT print number.

 

[Obitooooo]

I mean BC still haven't reach 250k in a month, and WT was doing consistently above that, it may or may not immediately recover all the sales (going on hiatus at its peaks make me lean towards it will) but it was doing better than what BC is doing now

Spoiler: don't you dare

play the digital card

And international Sales card ? The Foreign sales must be much higher than WT.