Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[tirakai]

Hasn't Boichi talked about in author comments that he's finding his schedule really easy to keep up with? Perhaps he gets a lot of colours and such simply because he's always able to do them quickly and on time.

Also rankings haven't correlated with top sellers for a long time, like how Bleach was perma-bottom 3 for years and years despite still being a top seller (sure it dropped a lot but it still sold huge numbers). People who buy volumes aren't necessarily also buying the magazine or voting for series and vice versa.

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Not to mention there's probably also a lot more readers who understand how the rankings work than in the past, so you'll probably get a lot more people voting for an up and coming series they want to see continue over something they maybe like more but is already safe.

 

[Lizard_Boots]

Seeing those Gintama sales, I have to admit I never would have thought that a live action movie would be the thing keeping a series relevant...

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

About Jump pushing Dr.Stone, it has some side-effects:

-What is the very first Jump title to be scanlated every week after One Piece? Is not MHA, is not Neverland, is not Haikyuu, is Dr.Stone.
-What is the title together with Neverland that foreign manga editorials quickly licensed? Is not BokuBen, is not Kimetsu, is Dr.Stone.

 

[101nemesis]

About Jump pushing Dr.Stone, it has some side-effects:

-What is the very first Jump title to be scanlated every week after One Piece? Is not MHA, is not Neverland, is not Haikyuu, is Dr.Stone.
-What is the title together with Neverland that foreign manga editorials quickly licensed? Is not BokuBen, is not Kimetsu, is Dr.Stone.

In stone's defense, I'm sure scanlated manga isn't really a significant impact of WSJ pushing Stone.
And licensing is probably because Stone is actually a lot more educational than other series out there. I'm sure its the easiest series to license for everyone because it actually teaches kids about science.

 

[OtterBrigade]

About Jump pushing Dr.Stone, it has some side-effects:

-What is the very first Jump title to be scanlated every week after One Piece? Is not MHA, is not Neverland, is not Haikyuu, is Dr.Stone.
-What is the title together with Neverland that foreign manga editorials quickly licensed? Is not BokuBen, is not Kimetsu, is Dr.Stone.

WNL, Stone and Robo were part of the 6 new series thing and Viz waited until that was over to pick stuff up. WNL was the first to debut while Stone was one of the last so I wouldn't really say there was any reason other than that. I'm sure if Stone was first and WNL near the back Viz would have gotten Stone "late" instead.

 

[Mammo]

About Jump pushing Dr.Stone, it has some side-effects:

-What is the very first Jump title to be scanlated every week after One Piece? Is not MHA, is not Neverland, is not Haikyuu, is Dr.Stone.
-What is the title together with Neverland that foreign manga editorials quickly licensed? Is not BokuBen, is not Kimetsu, is Dr.Stone.

-jump fans scans are also called "fast scans" for a reason, they release them based on which manga they finished working on first, this has nothing to do with jump
-because the author first work Eyeshield sold well for Viz, WNL and Kimetsu are written by untested authors and their first rankings debuted in the lower half of the magazine

 

[bladyal]

is there any chance that bleach anime can return next year ( from an annonce in jump festa
I saw a lot of rumors these days about this issue
and I want your opinions about that

ps : sorry for my bad english

 

[101nemesis]

is there any chance that bleach anime can return next year ( from an annonce in jump festa
I saw a lot of rumors these days about this issue
and I want your opinions about that

ps : sorry for my bad english

Your English is fine.

And Bleach anime returning is a big no. If the movie did spectacularly well, it would've given the anime a strong case to come back, maybe even for a reboot. But the movie did bad despite it actually being a good adaptation of the source material.

 

[Lizard_Boots]

is there any chance that bleach anime can return next year ( from an annonce in jump festa
I saw a lot of rumors these days about this issue
and I want your opinions about that

ps : sorry for my bad english

Unfortunately no. If it was getting a return, Bleach would have gotten its own stage at Jump Festa. Shueisha are clearly attempting to push all of their newer works and a couple of veterans like Prince of Tennis and Gintama. Maybe there might be better luck next year.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Or the next year, or the next, or the one after that...

 

[Pietro]

I heard those rumors about Bleach, too. Honestly, I think it's a bit difficult to happen, but I hope with all of my heart

 

[Shinji Hirako]

The live action movie keeps being brought up as if it is the be all end all of the Bleach franchise.

Firstly the production committee sold the movie rights to Netflix and likely recuperated their costs, a point which people keep ignoring.

Secondly, with how well the Gintama live action movie performed and the fact that it had a running anime, why did the franchise not appear in TV Tokyo's top revenue and profits list. Bleach has been very successful with its mobile games to the extent that they are even incorporating the new novels in to the game. Also two successful mobile games have recently been released in China, a huge market for mobage games.

The first one: http://m.bleach2.mobage.cn/home
The second one: http://bleach.kunlun.com/

Bleach is being promoted more than it was between 2012-16 (After the anime's conclusion) and is currently in an ongoing collaboration with Hypland for official clothing: https://hypland.com/collections/bleach

Then there are Yonkou's tweets:
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1063490570742448128
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1063492864380813312
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1064504736571768833

 

[Nakura]

I'd be excited if a new Bleach anime was announced... only for me to remember what the reality is:
1. I don't trust Pierrot to provide a quality product if it came back.
2. Most of the source material of the final arc is a mess anyway.

 

[Lizard_Boots]

The live action movie keeps being brought up as if it is the be all end all of the Bleach franchise.

Firstly the production committee sold the movie rights to Netflix and likely recuperated their costs, a point which people keep ignoring.

Secondly, with how well the Gintama live action movie performed and the fact that it had a running anime, why did the franchise not appear in TV Tokyo's top revenue and profits list. Bleach has been very successful with its mobile games to the extent that they are even incorporating the new novels in to the game. Also two successful mobile games have recently been released in China, a huge market for mobage games.

The first one: http://m.bleach2.mobage.cn/home
The second one: http://bleach.kunlun.com/

Bleach is being promoted more than it was between 2012-16 (After the anime's conclusion) and is currently in an ongoing collaboration with Hypland for official clothing: https://hypland.com/collections/bleach

Then there are Yonkou's tweets:
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1063490570742448128
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1063492864380813312
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1064504736571768833

Yonkou seems to enjoy trolling when it comes to these situations, trying to get reactions out of gullible fans. I remember when he did this with Fairy Tail fans who wanted to know the ending and he made them look like a rabid pack of dogs. It's the same with Bleach fans here. I wouldn't put much stock into tweets like those.
Shueisha clearly don't care for a Bleach anime return at the moment. LIke I said, you would logically give Bleach a Super Stage at Jump Festa if you wanted a promotion tool for something as big as an anime and that clearly hasn't happened.

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I'd be excited if a new Bleach anime was announced... only for me to remember what the reality is:
1. I don't trust Pierrot to provide a quality product if it came back.
2. Most of the source material of the final arc is a mess anyway.

These are some sticking points too. You cannot just rely on Pierrot to just fill in the gaps on the manga's source material, like so many Bleach fans want to see. That would involve Kubo coming back into the picture as a consultant, when he has given no indication of coming back full-time yet. Pierrot are also still on Black Clover and Boruto, so bringing a Bleach anime in now would be stretching them thin as it is.

 

[tirakai]

There's been youtube rumours about the Bleach anime returning ever since the old one ended, people just like to fantasise about their favourite series returning. If the anime was coming back, everyone here would already know about it.

also Yonkou doesn't have any sort of insider info on WSJ, he just gets the magazine early from people breaking street date (actually does he still? I was under the impression everyone just reposts 2ch leaks these days).

 

[SharkBait]

It is commonly believed that where theres smoke theres fire so the BLeach dream should still be alive. No one just makes up stuff out of the blue.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Why are y'all trusting this YouTuber?

 

[Lizard_Boots]

Why are y'all trusting this YouTuber?

There are people who know by now he knows only as much as the leakers who get early scans. It's started becoming more about brand building now instead of being a normal leaker, especially with the YouTube stuff.

 

[shoyoboyo]

The fact that he got the One-Punch Man season 2 release date wrong strongly suggests and highly implies that he is not a credible source.

As a thread that supposedly prides itself as being a credible and reliable source of information, you all should be ashamed.

 

[TyVip]

The fact that he got the One-Punch Man season 2 release date wrong strongly suggests and highly implies that he is not a credible source.

As a thread that supposedly prides itself as being a credible and reliable source of information, you all should be ashamed.

Been telling yall we should put a mole inside Shuiesha office. Primary source right there.
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