Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[cody]

The Level-5 game? The manga will be serialized on WSJ? Didn't know about this coming to the magazine.

Since it was announced such a long time ago, who knows if it's still coming to WSJ. It might not even get a manga anymore, just games and anime.

Edit: In the new Jump Festa trailer WSJ is at the end of the video. If there will be a manga, it could be in Jump+ for example.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

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don't forget about the new manga from Masaoki Shindou last year GFC winner

I wonder if it will be Count Over. That oneshot was too similar to Akame ga Kill for me.

Didn't know about Megaton Musashi though. If it gets manga, I see that manga going for + or Giga.

 

[tirakai]

Actually I wonder if Black Clover's officially no longer one of the current pillars/face series/whatever they're called now. Neverland got one of the big slots in the group cover with Black Clover relegated to a secondary position.

I guess we'll see in the next couple covers.

 

[101nemesis]

Actually I wonder if Black Clover's officially no longer one of the current pillars/face series/whatever they're called now. Neverland got one of the big slots in the group cover with Black Clover relegated to a secondary position.

I guess we'll see in the next couple covers.

It never really was? It seemed to be more of an instance where WSJ put it there hoping it'd grow into something big or until something big actually came along (which happened, aka TPN).

 

[shoyoboyo]

In terms of promotion, it pretty much was sort of a pillar. On group covers or the like, it was always scaled to the same size as One Piece, Haikyu, and Academia.

In terms of actual sales though, yeah it was never a pillar. I can see Jujutsu taking its spot on promotional material in the next year or so with its growth.

 

[DyanSon]

Black Clover is pillar if you considered Digital Sales. It's also Top 4 best selling anime of 2018

 

[Tymano]

Black Clover is pillar if you considered Digital Sales. It's also Top 4 best selling anime of 2018

We have no data for digital sales, so I could say that Dr. Stone is a pillar if you consider digital sales, and it would be just as true as saying that Black Clover is a pillar because of digital sales.

Also the top 4 best selling anime is only on TV Tokyo, not on every channel.

 

[Nemesis]

Actually I wonder if Black Clover's officially no longer one of the current pillars/face series/whatever they're called now. Neverland got one of the big slots in the group cover with Black Clover relegated to a secondary position.

I guess we'll see in the next couple covers.

Black Clover always appeared on the covers and all but it was more of a Toriko situation than anything. Neverland being there makes more sense considering that it's the 4th best-selling series on the magazine.

Black Clover isn't a pillar but it's of course successful as it is right now, even with the promotions not paying off (like Toriko, again) considering that it's like the 6th best-selling manga on the magazine and one of the best in japan. I believe that much like Toriko, it didn't reach what Shueisha wanted but is a significant and successful series either way.

 

[SharkBait]

Black Clover is pillar if you considered Digital Sales. It's also Top 4 best selling anime of 2018

BLack Clover is right under the star in the Holiday Tree cover, the place where ones eyes are naturally drawn too. For people to say it's advertising attention and focus has been suppressed, or that it is somehow not considered a bona fide success is utterly preposterous and simply poppycock.

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We have no data for digital sales, so I could say that Dr. Stone is a pillar if you consider digital sales, and it would be just as true as saying that Black Clover is a pillar because of digital sales.

It is not the same, We know that digital sales can at a maximum tie or slight exceeded print sales, so the maximum a Dr. Stone digital could sell, even at 100% is a very unimpressive 70K for a grand total of 140K in a volume, which is honestly unimpressive, at best the series is the next Medaka Box level performing which is pretty unremarkable and disappointing. BLack Clover selling at a maximum digitally puts it over both Naruto end of age levels and most of BLeach's volume per volume levels, a very remarkable and commendable performance.

 

[Caiops]

Oh my god, you are trying too much.

Black Clover selling 700-800k per volume in digital?

That's not happening bro.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Reminder that despite what yearly Oricon sales tell you, One Piece has actually grown and recently has been selling 6 million units per volume (cause of the digital sales of course).

 

[MangAniMY]

I see people are talking digital again, a few of the major digital stores have released their Digital rankings for 2018, the full list is on my blog but, I'll put up just the shonen jump series here, (book with the blue "Jump Comics" banner at the side)
more series and links to source in the post

Apple Books Top Manga Works (no range, they just said 2018):
https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/apple-books-japan-top-20-manga-works.html

Editor's choice: Jujutsu Kaisen

Top manga works (in order featured)
-MHA
-One Piece
-HxH
-Bleach
-TPN
-Haikyuu!!
-One Punch-Man
-Black Clover
-Shokugeki no Souma


Rakuten Kobo e-book ranking 2018 (January 1, 2018 - October 31, 2018) : https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/rakuten-kobo-2018.html


Top 100
3. One Piece
4. Hunter x Hunter
6. MHA
9. Haikyuu!!
13. TPN
17. Bleach
20. Hana Nochi
21. Naruto
25. Gintama
26. One Punch-Man
31. Shokugeki no Souma
35. World's End Harem
62. Houshin Engi
64. Kimetsu no Yaiba
88. Kono Oto Tomare!
89. Dragon Ball Super
97. Hunter x Hunter (Digital Colored edition)


Amazon Japan 2018 Digital Comic Ranking (November 13, 2017 - October 21, 2018)
https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/amazon-japan-2018-digital-comic-ranking.html


Top 20
3. Hunter x Hunter
14. My Hero Academia
19. One Piece


ebookjapan Annual Rankings 2018* (the range is January 1, 2018 - November 11, 2018) *I explained about the range in the post
https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/ebookjapan-annual-rankings-2018.html


Top 50
6. Hunter x Hunter
9. World's End Harem
18. One Piece
24. MHA
37. One Punch-Man
38. TPN


Any other major digital stores that I missed?
not all of them had/will release a yearly ranking but just in case I missed a few more

 

[SharkBait]

-Black Clover

Thanks, it feels great to be totally vindicated, yet again.

 

[Doughboy]

My boy, you're the goat with the numbers and charts and the geeky stuff but all this will do is trigger the triggerable. See you in 4 pages.

 

[MangAniMY]

My boy, you're the goat with the numbers and charts and the geeky stuff but all this will do is trigger the triggerable. See you in 4 pages.

partly intentional , mostly just wanting to share my findings

i want my 1000 pages

 

[TyVip]

62. Houshin Engi

The anime managed to sell about 2 copies, let's go team.

 

[MangAniMY]

Official Music Video for Black Clover ED5


you can also find the actual OP and ED, and also the MV for the OP on her channel

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Official Music Video for Black Clover ED5


you can also find the actual OP and ED, and also the MV for the OP on her channel

My favorite Black Clover ending by far.


(Yeah, it puts ED 4 in the title, but is our ED 5)

 

[Tarot]

Since we're on the topic of Black Clover, I'm curious to see where people here would rank it in terms of worldwide popularity and presence compared to World Trigger and Toriko.

 

[DyanSon]

Since we're on the topic of Black Clover, I'm curious to see where people here would rank it in terms of worldwide popularity and presence compared to World Trigger and Toriko.

Black Clover probably on the same level of peak Toriko(not sales of course)right know. WT is only mildly popular on nips and almost non-existant in West.