Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[NeeNeen]

To be honest I read the first 100 chapters of OP and found it decent but that's it,I expected much more from a series that is the highest selling manga of all time.

Yeah, I never really got the hype either. I did like the first 15 or so volumes, but then things got more political/serious and at some point I just stopped buying it.

 

[James Rye]

Found this in 4chan and laughed. I'm sharing it.

Spoiler

I love how WT is part of the Sports Club. XDDD

 

[101nemesis]

I'm calling it now btw. JJK (solely based on the 30 chapters I've read and following its growth over the last year) has the potential to hit 500k per volume with a decent anime adaptation.
SxF can easily hit 1 million per volume and beyond if it keeps the quality (whatever attracted its readers) and hype up until the anime.

Look at it this way: In the last week Jujutsu Kaisen, a manga with no anime, sold with it's 7th volume only 1000 units less than Black Clover, a manga with an anime that went on for over 2 years and will continue for at least another year, did with it's 22nd volume.

But but but....declining era.
*Throws quick random comparison (with no evidence to support it) of BC with Toriko / BC with AC / BC with Reborn*
/sarcasm (incase people didn't get it)

 

[Aeneas]

Damn it, why did you mention Nana . HxH fans are still lucky their beloved manga is still being made (?), wait so we didn't have a new HxH chapter since 2019 began. Is HxH going to take another whole year off?

We're used to the suffering (2009 / 2013 / 2015 are the other three years with 0 chapters).

 

[Ebrietas-]

We're used to the suffering (2009 / 2013 / 2015 are the other three years with 0 chapters).

There was actually one chapter released in 2009 though it released in 2010 in terms of Jump years

 

[animeexpert]

Damn it, why did I even waste so much time on those worthless ToC threads on /a/ to understand all of this
That Banba joke will never stop being funny.
Also it is fucking crazy how kny went from "that hipster manga nobody read" to a pillar of shitpost singularity along OP and other famous manga "if you like them you are normie with shit taste".

no wonder that some fans dont want their franchise to become mainstream.

 

[TyVip]

Spy sales momentum is still going strong, plus there are more opportunity to increase it further (recommended by the bookstore, manga taisho nominee, maybe tezuka nominee, kono manga sugoi)

 

[Nemesis]

Spy sales momentum is still going strong, plus there are more opportunity to increase it further (recommended by the bookstore, manga taisho nominee, maybe tezuka nominee, kono manga sugoi)

And an anime.

 

[animeexpert]

To be honest I read the first 100 chapters of OP and found it decent but that's it,I expected much more from a series that is the highest selling manga of all time.

cuz at that time, OP reached the peak for adventure shonen and since then become an timeless phenomenon still till this days.

Hell, it still gonna break its peaks

yeh, ch 100 is pretty much a prologue

 

[pamuchi]

Receiving an anime adaptation can be a blessing but also a curse.

 

[TyVip]

And an anime.

my point was it can grow without an anime (and possibly reaching 1M before the anime too), and i list possibility of such boost. You're talking way too far in the future

Kono Sugoi is in december, Tezuka is next febuary, manga taisho is next may.

 

[BaNChiGay]

I'm calling it now btw. JJK (solely based on the 30 chapters I've read and following its growth over the last year) has the potential to hit 500k per volume with a decent anime adaptation.
SxF can easily hit 1 million per volume and beyond if it keeps the quality (whatever attracted its readers) and hype up until the anime.



But but but....declining era.
*Throws quick random comparison (with no evidence to support it) of BC with Toriko / BC with AC / BC with Reborn*
/sarcasm (incase people didn't get it)

You should consider digital sales too which I'm sure BC sells million

 

[Aeneas]

There was actually one chapter released in 2009 though it released in 2010 in terms of Jump years

This one?

Weekly Shonen Jump #2057 - No. 5-6, 2010 (Issue)

comicvine.gamespot.com

Still 2010, even going by "our" years.

 

[Ebrietas-]

This one?

Weekly Shonen Jump #2057 - No. 5-6, 2010 (Issue)

comicvine.gamespot.com

Still 2010, even going by "our" years.

Dates in comicvine are wrong for some reason. Chapter 291 seems to have been released in late December(pretty much the end of it though ). Here's a discussion thread from December 24th:

Hunter x Hunter Chapter 291 Discussion

THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- its back ^_^

myanimelist.net

 

[Heiji]

 

[King Moe]

Only volume 17 has a shortage problem, given that we still don't have a reprint announcement for it, but all the other volumes are getting urgent reprints that are going to bookstores next week and those are still selling like hotcakes. OP's volumes do sell way more than any other series, but KNY's backlog is super strong and since they are sending out reprints, it doesn't seem it will stop soon.

Dude, you're missing the point completely. The times OP recently trended was from leaks, which means they are released online way before the maganize's physical release. Japanese people despise those leaks, they constantly block people that post those on Twitter and remind people not to post them and Jump/Shueisha has tried time and time again to stop them from being uploaded. Also, it trended outside of Japan and we're talking about Japanese sales. There's no direct correlation between those trends and sales. Oh yeah also, the chapters that trended? They are only going to be compiled in volume 95.



Average. But it's kind of a delicate situation, honestly. JJK which only has 7 volumes out is super close to BC when it comes to weekly sales, while BC has an anime with over 100 episodes and has 22 volumes out and doesn't have a significant backlog. SXF, which has only 2 volumes out, already sells more than BC. It has almost no room for a boost since the anime, which has had better production for a while now, does nothing for the series's sales and there's no sign of a movie, which could help. BC's sales outside of WSJ are not bad per se, but within WSJ, they are mid tier.

Looking at sells, around 300,000 is the limit though as don't see it increasing much more especially they probably want new volume which won't be awhile and stockage still does hurt the progress of it.

We have to wait and see, but do see OP being in 10 million or more from it's quota.

I know the point. Though it could lead to getting new volume of 94 from given hype more around. Like I said you never know on outcomes and how it could attract people. Just saying is all about it.

 

[Aeneas]

Dates in comicvine are wrong for some reason. Chapter 291 seems to have been released in late December(pretty much the end of it though ). Here's a discussion thread from December 24th:

Hunter x Hunter Chapter 291 Discussion

THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- its back ^_^

myanimelist.net

Interesting. Looks like it was a double issue maybe?

Gives me (a tiny amount of) hope for later this year.

 

[Ryuusei]

Looking at sells, around 300,000 is the limit though as don't see it increasing much more especially they probably want new volume which won't be awhile and stockage still does hurt the progress of it.

We have to wait and see, but do see OP being in 10 million or more from it's quota.

I know the point. Though it could lead to getting new volume of 94 from given hype more around. Like I said you never know on outcomes and how it could attract people. Just saying is all about it.

I am not only talking about volume 17's numbers, there are other 16 volumes that are selling really well. In fact, KNY sold almost 2 million copies in September alone and that was before the new volume. I also have never said OP isn't hitting 10 million, I'm just stating facts about it's current sales and how trending on social media doesn't seem to have affected them. Anyway, in 3 weeks we'll know how OP will do in a month, it's wait and see.

 

[pamuchi]

I think this user says that volume 17 is out of stock in 20 bookstores.

 

[Jovan]

Samurai 8 still feels so overprinted compared to the things around it.