Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Does anyone have what the 3 newbies' Day 1 sales were for their first volumes?

Tokyo Shinobi Squad: 86th
Futari no Taisei: 150th
Beast Children 161th

 

[Ryuusei]

Does anyone have what the 3 newbies' Day 1 sales were for their first volumes?

#86 Tokyo Shinobi Squad 1
#150 Double Taisei 1
#161 Beast Children 1

 

[Aeneas]

While I agree that it's a shame, there is still a point to doing this in the Jump environment ; if Shueisha sees the quality in your work when you get axed, they'll be more likely to fast-track you on developing a new series for the magazine. We're probably saying goodbye to Taisei soon, but I'm really confident we'll see Fukuda again within the next 2 years.

Though if the three strike system is accurate, that'll be his last shot in WSJ, unless he goes elsewhere (e.g., Jump+) next.

Well, so much for Beast Children selling more than the other two...
It's funny, nobody's really talking about Tokyo Shinobi Squad nearly as much as Double Taisei or even Beast Children, yet it's on track to be the best-selling out of the flops. Again.

Makes sense. Initial Nightow recommendation + being a battle shonen vs. two spokons. Also, shogi series struggling in Jump for years and rugby series not being very common (though one would've thought the RWC hype would've helped a little more).

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Though if the three strike system is accurate, that'll be his last shot in WSJ, unless he goes elsewhere (e.g., Jump+) next.

This is his second series on Jump, the last one was on GIGA

 

[TyVip]

if it's on GIGA then this is his first series, GIGA is all about mini series that doesn't sell.

 

[Aeneas]

This is his second series on Jump, the last one was on GIGA

Oh, by "that'll" I meant the hypothetical third series that he would do in Jump after Taisei (unless he "saves" his last chance for the time being, and goes elsewhere).

 

[Thores]

Though if the three strike system is accurate, that'll be his last shot in WSJ, unless he goes elsewhere (e.g., Jump+) next.

True, but I actually think this could be a "third time's the charm" situation like with Horikoshi. He's figured out his strengths as a mangaka over the course of Double Taisei, now he just needs to put forward a series that will bring out those strengths. I think whatever that ends up being has true potential to be a WSJ success.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

if it's on GIGA then this is his first series, GIGA is all about mini series that doesn't sell.

Second, his first was Devilyman

 

[Nemesis]

This is his second series on Jump, the last one was on GIGA

Oh, that signature is nice. It's like the one you had on that site where you used the reborn avatar for years. lol

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 2, 2019 ---

Did anyone post about TV Tokyo earnings here? If not, here's, courtesy of ANN:

The company cites the growth of overseas business as a factor for its animation business' strong performance. The company reported domestic sales of 3.359 billion yen (about US$31 million), an increase of 1.5%, and overseas sales of 8.277 billion yen (about US$77 million), an increase of 28.6%. TV Tokyo sales are strong in Asia, particularly China, and North America. Sales for the Naruto franchise's games were large in China. As a result, the overseas sales of the company's animation business amounted to 71.1%.

TV Tokyo's top anime franchises, ranked by sales for its first half of the current fiscal year, are as follows:

1. Naruto
2. Boruto
3. Yu-Gi-Oh!
4. Black Clover
5. Bleach

TV Tokyo's top anime franchises, ranked by gross profit for its first half of the current fiscal year, are as follows:

1. Naruto
2. Boruto
3. Pokémon
4. Black Clover
5. Yu-Gi-Oh!

TV Tokyo's subsidiary anime channel AT-X reported sales of 2.798 billion yen (about US$26 million), an increase of 5.8%. The number of subscribers to AT-X continues to decline.

TV Tokyo's Animation Division Reports Increase in Profits in 1st Half of Fiscal Year

Company attributes performance to overseas sales // Japanese television network TV Tokyo published on Wednesday its earnings for fiscal year 2019 (April 1,...

www.animenewsnetwork.com

 

[Halloween]

New poll is up.

 

[Aipom626]

True, but I actually think this could be a "third time's the charm" situation like with Horikoshi. He's figured out his strengths as a mangaka over the course of Double Taisei, now he just needs to put forward a series that will bring out those strengths. I think whatever that ends up being has true potential to be a WSJ success.

This is what I'm banking on too. I'm guessing there's going to be a need for several new romcoms throughout 2020, and honestly, his artwork puts him as one of my top contenders for landing one of the next romcoms that actually sticks in the magazine. The improvement in his artwork from the time between Devilyman and now is certainly noticeable.

As for the new poll, I'd say it'll probably be Jujutsu Kaisen since it was a huge hit from the start and it would be for the best to strike while the iron's hot rather than wait too long for sales to start to plateau or decline before announcing the adaptation. However, I would really love to see Act-Age adapted first, perhaps by the studio that did Kaguya's anime.

 

[Koni]

Jujutsu, Jujutsu, Jujutsu. It's the oldest out of the three, and it's the most battle-shonen-like out of the three, so it's an easier sell.

This is what I'm banking on too. I'm guessing there's going to be a need for several new romcoms throughout 2020, and honestly, his artwork puts him as one of my top contenders for landing one of the next romcoms that actually sticks in the magazine. The improvement in his artwork from the time between Devilyman and now is certainly noticeable.

As for the new poll, I'd say it'll probably be Jujutsu Kaisen since it was a huge hit from the start and it would be for the best to strike while the iron's hot rather than wait too long for sales to start to plateau or decline before announcing the adaptation. However, I would really love to see Act-Age adapted first, perhaps by the studio that did Kaguya's anime.

The team that's doing Kaguya is doing more Kaguya right now and even after that's over with, I'd prefer to see them tackle Spy x Family, since that has essentially a similar appeal.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Oh, that signature is nice. It's like the one you had on that site where you used the reborn avatar for years. lol

I actually update this since 2012, after the forumPROJECT ended (2016), i used on Union Manga's forum, and i use as my Twitter cover, so i keep updating almost every new batch (so i have a ton of versions on my pc), it took me all this time to use here because i simply forgot about signs since no one uses here, so when i saw Buranchi i decided to use here.

For nostalgia this was the first one i made and used:

 

[Nemesis]

Jujutsu, Jujutsu, Jujutsu. It's the oldest out of the three, and it's the most battle-shonen-like out of the three, so it's an easier sell.



The team that's doing Kaguya is doing more Kaguya right now and even after that's over with, I'd prefer to see them tackle Spy x Family, since that has essentially a similar appeal.

The team that is doing Kaguya won't be the same for future titles outside of Kaguya which they only are repeating due to being the same series (and probably because they were booked already). It's very rare for the same exact staff, even in lead positions, to be on other projects. And all of those are freelancers, so many could be booked on to work on other companies in the future. Don't forget that the studio is the one first chosen, later it comes the staff being contracted if the studio isn't like Kyoani or Toei Animation where many of the directors, scriptwriters, character designers and so on are internals.

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Also, Spy x Family if it comes (since it's a jump+ title after all, we only got a few of them compared to how much is and was out), will be on 2021 at best.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019 ---

I actually update this since 2012, after the forumPROJECT ended (2016), i used on Union Manga's forum, and i use as my Twitter cover, so i keep updating almost every new batch (so i have a ton of versions on my pc), it took me all this time to use here because i simply forgot about signs since no one uses here, so when i saw Buranchi i decided to use here.

For nostalgia this was the first one i made and used:

That's cool, I always liked it. And yeah, I remember you using it from forum project (I forgot that name, but I was there, if only for your TOC thread. :P and also your thread with chapters of manga.)

I hope you continue to do it in the future, it's a cool thing to show the protags of the current titles.

 

[Aeneas]

True, but I actually think this could be a "third time's the charm" situation like with Horikoshi. He's figured out his strengths as a mangaka over the course of Double Taisei, now he just needs to put forward a series that will bring out those strengths. I think whatever that ends up being has true potential to be a WSJ success.

Yeah, hope so too. Needs to choose a subject he enjoys and go in with a detailed plan.

Jujutsu, Jujutsu, Jujutsu. It's the oldest out of the three, and it's the most battle-shonen-like out of the three, so it's an easier sell.

AA is a little older (6 weeks).

 

[Koni]

The team that is doing Kaguya won't be the same for future titles outside of Kaguya which they only are repeating due to being the same series (and probably because they were booked already). It's very rare for the same exact staff, even in lead positions, to be on other projects. And all of those are freelancers, so many could be booked on to work on other companies in the future. Don't forget that the studio is the one first chosen, later it comes the staff being contracted if the studio isn't like Kyoani or Toei Animation where many of the directors, scriptwriters, character designers and so on are internals.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 2, 2019 ---

Also, Spy x Family if it comes (since it's a jump+ title after all, we only got a few of them compared to how much is and was out), will be on 2021 at best.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019 ---

That's cool, I always liked it. And yeah, I remember you using it from forum project (I forgot that name, but I was there, if only for your TOC thread. :P and also your thread with chapters of manga.)

I hope you continue to do it in the future, it's a cool thing to show the protags of the current titles.

Right, sorry about that. When I said I wanted them to do Spy x Family, I was more hopeful than anything, since it’s really unlikely.

Yeah, hope so too. Needs to choose a subject he enjoys and go in with a detailed plan.

AA is a little older (6 weeks).

...oh, yeah, the AA/Bozebeats round did come before JuJu/Noah’s Notes/Ziga round. It’s so weird, I honestly thought Bozebeats and Noah’s Notes would survive.
I still think Jujutsu will get the anime first cause it’s easier for Jump to sell, being a battle shonen manga.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Maybe Fukuda should try a detective manga, he clearly like more dark stuff and weird/exotic characters, his art would perfectly fit in a detective manga and he could do a lot of psychological and comedy stuff with weird and insane characters since a detective manga is more about dialogues, interactions and etc.

 

[tirakai]

Beast, Taisei, and TSS are for sure dead at this point I guess, and it's not even clear which of the 3 they'd pick if they only need to end 2. Maybe they'll just cancel all 3 anyway and leave an extra spot open again.

Yui Kamio still makes me curious, it's clearly building up to finale stuff but it's hard to tell how quickly, and I still feel it'll live through another batch or two. I think it's still possible at this point for it to survive past 50 chapters, even if just barely.

 

[NeeNeen]

Did anyone post about TV Tokyo earnings here? If not, here's, courtesy of ANN:

The company cites the growth of overseas business as a factor for its animation business' strong performance. The company reported domestic sales of 3.359 billion yen (about US$31 million), an increase of 1.5%, and overseas sales of 8.277 billion yen (about US$77 million), an increase of 28.6%. TV Tokyo sales are strong in Asia, particularly China, and North America. Sales for the Naruto franchise's games were large in China. As a result, the overseas sales of the company's animation business amounted to 71.1%.

TV Tokyo's top anime franchises, ranked by sales for its first half of the current fiscal year, are as follows:

1. Naruto
2. Boruto
3. Yu-Gi-Oh!
4. Black Clover
5. Bleach

TV Tokyo's top anime franchises, ranked by gross profit for its first half of the current fiscal year, are as follows:

1. Naruto
2. Boruto
3. Pokémon
4. Black Clover
5. Yu-Gi-Oh!

TV Tokyo's subsidiary anime channel AT-X reported sales of 2.798 billion yen (about US$26 million), an increase of 5.8%. The number of subscribers to AT-X continues to decline.

TV Tokyo's Animation Division Reports Increase in Profits in 1st Half of Fiscal Year

Company attributes performance to overseas sales // Japanese television network TV Tokyo published on Wednesday its earnings for fiscal year 2019 (April 1,...

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Black Clover kind of surprises me.

I suppose One Piece isn't part of the property then?

I actually update this since 2012, after the forumPROJECT ended (2016), i used on Union Manga's forum, and i use as my Twitter cover, so i keep updating almost every new batch (so i have a ton of versions on my pc), it took me all this time to use here because i simply forgot about signs since no one uses here, so when i saw Buranchi i decided to use here.

For nostalgia this was the first one i made and used:

Oh wow. So there's really only two series left, and one of them might be ending soon.

Talk about a crazy decade.

Beast, Taisei, and TSS are for sure dead at this point I guess, and it's not even clear which of the 3 they'd pick if they only need to end 2. Maybe they'll just cancel all 3 anyway and leave an extra spot open again.

Yui Kamio still makes me curious, it's clearly building up to finale stuff but it's hard to tell how quickly, and I still feel it'll live through another batch or two. I think it's still possible at this point for it to survive past 50 chapters, even if just barely.

I dunno, I could see it end in 3-4 chapters.

The only one that isn't giving me cancellation vibes is TSS. But that one was pretty episodic from the start, so I guess the author wouldn't need to wrap up much.

 

[Arjuna]

Let's see on end results as there something that could put OP on top as doesn't it get add on sales from it's light novels especially Ace one that came out this year?

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Could be or it hits it's limit thus far and plus don't forget OP gonna be push much harder and Oda will try to work hard on giving it his all when not holding back. Idk how long DS will survive in long run, but give credit it being one if top series for SJ now, but let's see how that can last.

Light novel sales don't add to manga sales though,


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Btw i don't know if anyone knows this but it seems Naruto and Dragon Ball lost their third and second position in highest sales in manga history to Golgo manga.


It is a great feat for a dark & seinen manga.