Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

MANGAHELPERS POLL ISSUE #26 (2020) - VOTING RESULTS

1. Chainsaw Man 71 - 162 Votes
2. My Hero Academia 273 - 135 Votes
3. Undead Unluck 18 - 92 Votes
4. Mashle 17 - 84 Votes
5. Time Paradox Ghostwriter 3 - 82 Votes
6. Jujutsu Kaisen 108 - 63 Votes
7. Act-Age 114 - 60 Votes
8. Dr. Stone 152 - 48 Votes
9. Moriking 6 - 47 Votes
10. Mitama Security 38 - 42 Votes
11. Haikyuu!! 395 - 34 Votes
12. Black Clover 252 - 34 Votes
13. Agravity Boys 22 - 31 Votes
14. Jigokuraku 99 - 21 Votes
15. Mission: Yozakura Family 37 - 12 Votes
16. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 208 - 11 Votes
17. The Promised Neverland 179 - 7 Votes
18. Spy x Family Extra Short 4 - 4 Votes
19. We Never Learn 160 - 3 Votes
20. Bone Collection 5 - 2 Votes
21. Guardian of the Witch 16 - 0 Votes

Notes:

-52 Voters (43 + 9 Excluded)
-Tied mangas decided by which is older
-Total number of votes is the combined between both polls
-One Piece is absent in this issue

The 2020 Alliance is starting to beat the 2018 Alliance. Wondering if any of the 4 new series will also join the 2020 Alliance in the top of the MH polls.

 

[RafGL]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 06/06

#1 World Trigger 22
#2 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#4 Blue Exorcist 25
#6 Chainsaw Man 7
#9 Seraph of the End 21
#14 Jigokuraku 10
#22 We Never Learn 17
#41 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#48 Mashle 1
#50 Ao no Flag 8
#67 Mission: Yozakura Family 3
#70 Undead Unluck 2
#94 Saotome Shimai Manga no Tame Nara!? 7
#106 Majo no Kaigashuu 8
#179 Kiruru Kill Me 1
#253 Dark Gathering 4
#301 Mitama Security 3
#392 Koigoku no Toshi 3
OUT ZIPMAN!! 2
OUT Dear CALL 2
OUT Melt Away! Mizore-chan 6
OUT Le Petit Prince 6
OUT Himitsu no Kajitsu 2
OUT Wa no Kage 2
OUT 13 Year Old Job 1

 

[ChrissyR5]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 06/06

#1 World Trigger 22
#2 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#4 Blue Exorcist 25
#6 Chainsaw Man 7
#9 Seraph of the End 21
#14 Jigokuraku 10
#22 We Never Learn 17
#41 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#48 Mashle 1
#50 Ao no Flag 8
#67 Mission: Yozakura Family 3
#70 Undead Unluck 2
#94 Saotome Shimai Manga no Tame Nara!? 7
#106 Majo no Kaigashuu 8
#179 Kiruru Kill Me 1
#253 Dark Gathering 4
#301 Mitama Security 3
#392 Koigoku no Toshi 3
OUT ZIPMAN!! 2
OUT Dear CALL 2
OUT Melt Away! Mizore-chan 6
OUT Le Petit Prince 6
OUT Himitsu no Kajitsu 2
OUT Wa no Kage 2
OUT 13 Year Old Job 1

What's 3rd?

 

[yadayada]

What's 3rd?

Kimetsu no yaiba 20, lol.

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

How does undead unluck Vol. 2 ranking placement/movement compare to Vol 1 and is kny backlog still in the top. 50

 

[yadayada]

How does undead unluck Vol. 2 ranking placement/movement compare to Vol 1 and is kny backlog still in the top. 50

Comparing volume daily rankings is kinda pointless, but volume 2 has good rankings and volume 1 has been charting on shoseki every day since volume 2 came out so that's pretty good for it. Some shops seem to be sold out as well.

As for KnY, same as always.

 

[James Rye]

Yozakura:

Vol.1: #40 > #60
Vol.2: #47 > #63
Vol.3: #41 > #69

Undead:

Vol.1: #29 > #65
Vol.2: #25 > #59

Mitama:

Vol.1: #52 > #96
Vol.2: #60 > #144
Vol.3: #72 > #166

The drop with Mitama is real, it dropped 94 positions from one day to another lol

Not sure whenever Youakura is stable or not, lol.
Seems UU is rising a bit with its volumes which is good.
Mashle got great start, still don't think they make over 20k first week though it would be great if they did.
Mitama is so sad to watch...

MANGAHELPERS POLL ISSUE #26 (2020) - VOTING RESULTS

1. Chainsaw Man 71 - 162 Votes
2. My Hero Academia 273 - 135 Votes
3. Undead Unluck 18 - 92 Votes
4. Mashle 17 - 84 Votes
5. Time Paradox Ghostwriter 3 - 82 Votes
6. Jujutsu Kaisen 108 - 63 Votes
7. Act-Age 114 - 60 Votes
8. Dr. Stone 152 - 48 Votes
9. Moriking 6 - 47 Votes
10. Mitama Security 38 - 42 Votes
11. Haikyuu!! 395 - 34 Votes
12. Black Clover 252 - 34 Votes
13. Agravity Boys 22 - 31 Votes
14. Jigokuraku 99 - 21 Votes
15. Mission: Yozakura Family 37 - 12 Votes
16. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 208 - 11 Votes
17. The Promised Neverland 179 - 7 Votes
18. Spy x Family Extra Short 4 - 4 Votes
19. We Never Learn 160 - 3 Votes
20. Bone Collection 5 - 2 Votes
21. Guardian of the Witch 16 - 0 Votes

Notes:

-52 Voters (43 + 9 Excluded)
-Tied mangas decided by which is older
-Total number of votes is the combined between both polls
-One Piece is absent in this issue

9 excluded? Wow, our poll is growing!

 

[Jovan]

Jump+ isn't a dump for failed WSJ manga, it's a separate publication with its own hits. It doesn't need Agravity Boys.

I think there's only ever been two series that transferred to Jump+, other than for an epilogue? One of them was by choice (Tomatoypoo), though I don't know why iShoujo switched over.

The way you worded this makes no sense. Nobody said that they need Agravity Boys, but that they could do a platform change to see if it helps the manga.

Like said in some posts, Volume 1 sold more than majority of ongoing J+ series right now, which is already a good incentive to make it work in a system where the surveys don't exist. And again, the oneshot for Agravity Boys is there like I said in my post too!

But seeing the support for your post, it's obvious what people here think, so I won't go more.

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 06/06

#1 World Trigger 22
#2 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#4 Blue Exorcist 25
#6 Chainsaw Man 7
#9 Seraph of the End 21
#14 Jigokuraku 10
#22 We Never Learn 17
#41 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#48 Mashle 1
#50 Ao no Flag 8
#67 Mission: Yozakura Family 3
#70 Undead Unluck 2
#94 Saotome Shimai Manga no Tame Nara!? 7
#106 Majo no Kaigashuu 8
#179 Kiruru Kill Me 1
#253 Dark Gathering 4
#301 Mitama Security 3
#392 Koigoku no Toshi 3
OUT ZIPMAN!! 2
OUT Dear CALL 2
OUT Melt Away! Mizore-chan 6
OUT Le Petit Prince 6
OUT Himitsu no Kajitsu 2
OUT Wa no Kage 2
OUT 13 Year Old Job 1

Mashle is doing a massive feat over here! Did not expect that, even with great TOC places.

 

[Nakura]

Boichi did an hour long Q&A on YouTube:

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 06/06

#1 World Trigger 22
#2 Jujutsu Kaisen 11
#4 Blue Exorcist 25
#6 Chainsaw Man 7
#9 Seraph of the End 21
#14 Jigokuraku 10
#22 We Never Learn 17
#41 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 22
#48 Mashle 1
#50 Ao no Flag 8
#67 Mission: Yozakura Family 3
#70 Undead Unluck 2
#94 Saotome Shimai Manga no Tame Nara!? 7
#106 Majo no Kaigashuu 8
#179 Kiruru Kill Me 1
#253 Dark Gathering 4
#301 Mitama Security 3
#392 Koigoku no Toshi 3
OUT ZIPMAN!! 2
OUT Dear CALL 2
OUT Melt Away! Mizore-chan 6
OUT Le Petit Prince 6
OUT Himitsu no Kajitsu 2
OUT Wa no Kage 2
OUT 13 Year Old Job 1

Updating...

Yozakura:

Vol.1: #40 > #60 > #69
Vol.2: #47 > #63 > #145
Vol.3: #41 > #69 > #67

Undead:

Vol.1: #29 > #65 > #194
Vol.2: #25 > #59 > #70

Mitama:

Vol.1: #52 > #96 > #167
Vol.2: #60 > #144 > #209
Vol.3: #72 > #166 > #301

Yozakura recovered well from that little fall in the 2nd day, but Mitama is falling hard with this volume, dropped 135 positions...

Btw, at this point i think Mashle will be the first new series since Chainsaw Man to enter in the top 50.

 

[animeexpert]

Lmaoo, u are foul for that beelzebub instead of the official one

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

Seriously what’s up with shonen jump and crappy endings.

For food wars, the 2 authors were just trolling with their own series. Couldve made such a wonderful ending.. nahh just let ruin it for an new last arc

 

[Stivie]

Updating...

Yozakura:

Vol.1: #40 > #60 > #69
Vol.2: #47 > #63 > #145
Vol.3: #41 > #69 > #67

Undead:

Vol.1: #29 > #65 > #194
Vol.2: #25 > #59 > #70

Mitama:

Vol.1: #52 > #96 > #167
Vol.2: #60 > #144 > #209
Vol.3: #72 > #166 > #301

Yozakura recovered well from that little fall in the 2nd day, but Mitama is falling hard with this volume, dropped 135 positions...

Btw, at this point i think Mashle will be the first new series since Chainsaw Man to enter in the top 50.

Well, it was kind of predictable that Yozakura's third volume would sell better than the second, since he has Kuroyuki's mini arc.

Yozakura Family is a manga of romance, comedy and action, it is easy to transform it into a battle shonen but the author is not interested in doing that now.

 

[animeexpert]

I think that's basically it and aside from a general tone (that's not even always accurate) differentiating between Shonen/seinen or Shojo/josei is pointless. Is Kaguya really more mature than anything WSJ has run? Is World End Harem really better for kids than Kubo-san wa Mob wo Yurusanai? Or Chainsaw Man and almost any action series in Young Jump?

I still wanna know the reason why kaguya is in the seinen section, I know it's just a demograph but cmon.. it's mkre meant for an "childish" audience

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2020 ---

Yup, it is just this simple.
Now, let's all laugh at people using "seinen" as a prestigious term to describe stuff like HxH or CSM.

Bruh didnt u know hxh is a deconstruction from a genre demograph that is based on shonen but an well reconstructive of the deconstruction of seinen that takes element of shonen that is well on pair of the seinen demopgraph

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2020 ---

I swear I will never understand why people care so much about a label referring to the target demographic of a magazine. It makes literally no difference whether OPM is shonen or seinen or whether AoT is shonen or seinen. Hell, WSJ is supposed to be "catered to young boys" yet more than half the magazine's readership is over 18.

Well it's important sometimes if you go for an too childish area or super gruesome area

 

[Serinox]

Regarding Araki's birthday, Reddit reminded of this little story Matsui wrote about him meeting Araki:

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

Regarding Araki's birthday, Reddit reminded of this little story Matsui wrote about him meeting Araki:

Lacking humanity...lol

 

[Thundercat27]

kaguya is in the seinen section, I know it's just a demograph but cmon.. it's mkre meant for an "childish" audience

Aka already jokingly stated his target demographic was office ladies, not kids.

 

[Tamil]

Jigokuraku chapter 100 is out and we're getting a second character popularity poll

 

[Zetsyn]

You know, I often find the full results of these polls to be actually pretty funny.

 

[wothab]

You know, I often find the full results of these polls to be actually pretty funny.

Fujimoto actually commented on the results, some of them are quite amusing

 

[NeeNeen]

Now Summer Time Rendering is giving of ending flags too (though it might still take a while).

I do hope M+ will be giving us some new series soon. It's been half a year since they published something in English.