Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
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Happened upon what I think is the official Jump YouTube channel while I was searching for evidence that may indicate a manga's survival. They've got a repository of recent manga PVs. This one came out on May 19, 2019, and it showcased the established series in the lineup:




I wonder if they'll update this, because a hell of a lot has changed since then. I'm surprised Chainsaw Man wasn't on here considering it had been running for 5 to 6 months by then and was selling well. Samurai 8 is there because well, Shueisha really wanted to shill that series."
I actually want burn the witch to be a full on serialization. Partly because the one shot is amazing but also to make me forget about the sadness I felt when samurai 8 failed.
 

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Institutionalized xenophobia in Japan, institutionalized racism in the states. Doesn't look great for cops either way.




Except I've clearly stated over and over that spy x family seems clearly inspired by Beelzebub. Doesn't mean Tamura couldn't have been inspired by Spy x Family. Your arguments also seem rather naive regarding how entertainment industries work.
I've made my case pretty clearly. You can either choose to see it or not. This argument is over.
If shonen jump was worried about imitating popular manga then we would have had much less gag manga and more psycho thriller and demon slaying type manga. I think Nako’s priority right now is to balance the serious manga and the comedic manga. A lot of shonen jump’s recent pillars are on the darker side of shonen jump so I think he is trying to put more lighthearted manga in the magazine (hence the gag manga). With chainsawman, jujutsu kaisan, and act age becoming the main pillars where these stories are either dark, unconventional, or both I think he is trying not to make the magazine to edgy.
 

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Seriously though with the obvious result of GotW gone due axe and TPN and Yuuna and KnY having ended already, I am worried about who is next on the chopping board because I think it can only be two series - Mitama and Agravity Boys and I kinda like both of them....
 

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Seriously though with the obvious result of GotW gone due axe and TPN and Yuuna and KnY having ended already, I am worried about who is next on the chopping board because I think it can only be two series - Mitama and Agravity Boys and I kinda like both of them....
I think Mitama is next due to its sales decreasing every time. I know that it has better rankings than Agravity, but they gave it 3 volumes and it hasn't shown any growth in sales. We still don't even know if Agravity will increase in sales or not, but you never know. I really wish we could get new Id's to know whats axed next sooner.
 

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Your arguments also seem rather naive regarding how entertainment industries work.
You are applying your Western view onto this.
Do you work in Japan manga industry and are super not naive like me?
Do you think there was really a conspiracy between wnl and 5toubun.
Coincidence does happen!

This argument is over
it's just silliness
Pretty rude to dismiss opposition like this tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Seriously though with the obvious result of GotW gone due axe and TPN and Yuuna and KnY having ended already, I am worried about who is next on the chopping board because I think it can only be two series - Mitama and Agravity Boys and I kinda like both of them....
Who is the person on the far right?
 

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I have been following this industry much longer than you. I am not looking at it with a western bias. You are just seeing the industry with rose colored glasses. You also have been equally dismissive of my arguments, arguably more so.
I am done. I will not respond to you any further. It feels like I'm arguing with a certain banned user and it does nothing but give me a headache.
 

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Seriously though with the obvious result of GotW gone due axe and TPN and Yuuna and KnY having ended already, I am worried about who is next on the chopping board because I think it can only be two series - Mitama and Agravity Boys and I kinda like both of them....
I think it's Mitama..
 

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I think the problem with Agravity boys is to give more prominence to the American character than to the Japanese character, who in theory should be the protagonist.
 

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I have been following this industry much longer than you. I am not looking at it with a western bias. You are just seeing the industry with rose colored glasses. You also have been equally dismissive of my arguments, arguably more so.
I am done. I will not respond to you any further. It feels like I'm arguing with a certain banned user and it does nothing but give me a headache.
Apologize for causing your distress.
I was just really against early judgement an overanalyze as a glance before the actual manga even released.
We never knew UU going to have SCP-esque world with its preview, right.
And I don't really think I look at the manga industry with a rosy tint glass.
Being a doomer, my motto is: everything has potential, potential to be shit.
Well, I do see my argument did put a lot of faith in mangaka not being lazy naught people try to skip work by picking elements from what currently working ಠ︵ಠ
My point is, let it out, and judge it for how it actually is.
We never really know what actually happened behind the scenes, during the manga's inception.
We can really throw out that kind of accusation after really know what kind of manga it is. Well, at least after the first chapter.
Sorry for much heated argument. And sorry for my abandonment issue as well that make me hate being cut off mid-conversation (。ŏ﹏ŏ).
 
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So nice to see BonColle placed high in the TOC, first good news since god knows how long. I want it to survive so bad it hurts, the other day I was doing the calculations to see if it's possible for me to save it from cancelation if i spent all my money on it
It's not possible :emocat
 

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Almost feel sad about GotW ending, that last arc with Claude and Spica was actually solid, I think if this series had played its cards right, it could’ve made it, though launching with two more successful series probably didn’t help.
 

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not a great time to post this cause ToC is gonna bury it but w/e

finally got around to translating MY LITTLE MARS (oneshot from earlier in the year). It's a rough translation, but better than nothing.

Thanks for the translation!
Nice drawings. Nice atmosphere. Not the most innovative plot, but okay.

Kinda put off by her breasts looking like someone stuffed an inflattable neck pillow in her bra.

Tamura's new series is a detective series. Probably with some supernatural stuff.

Detective x Sea x Little Girl!? An outlaw detective will flounder to solve this case!! A hardboiled story between a detective and a little sea girl!!
So... a detective story with supernatural elements?

I mean, I love detectives, but in my experience stories like that are usually less about the detective work and more akin to exorcist manga... which are, like, half the magazine right now...

Happened upon what I think is the official Jump YouTube channel while I was searching for evidence that may indicate a manga's survival. They've got a repository of recent manga PVs. This one came out on May 19, 2019, and it showcased the established series in the lineup:




I wonder if they'll update this, because a hell of a lot has changed since then. I'm surprised Chainsaw Man wasn't on here considering it had been running for 5 to 6 months by then and was selling well. Samurai 8 is there because well, Shueisha really wanted to shill that series."
Is that how Act-age is supposed to be pronounced, or does this guy simply not know how to say 'age'?

I think the problem with Agravity boys is to give more prominence to the American character than to the Japanese character, who in theory should be the protagonist.
What Japanese character?

And why should he be the protagonist?

I think it's Mitama..
Probably, because it seems to be wrapping up.
They were talking about the four people in the last panel.

So nice to see BonColle placed high in the TOC, first good news since god knows how long. I want it to survive so bad it hurts, the other day I was doing the calculations to see if it's possible for me to save it from cancelation if i spent all my money on it
It's not possible :emocat
Yeah... keep your savings. That's not going to work.

You shouldn't despair yet though. It did have a very decent first rank.

Almost feel sad about GotW ending, that last arc with Claude and Spica was actually solid, I think if this series had played its cards right, it could’ve made it, though launching with two more successful series probably didn’t help.
Same here. The plot wasn't bad, but the pacing (especially in chapters 2-5) was really, really slow.

Though I'm kind of disappointed they didn't try and give it some kind of ending... unless they pull off something amazing in this last chapter, I guess, but right now it kind of feels like they just published what they had already planned without caring if it suddenly stopped in the middle of an arc, and that's a shame.
 

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Eh. I don't like UxU either. I'm happy it's doing well, WSJ needs more successful battle manga with KNY and TPN finished but I'll never get into it.

It could have the best world building the industry has ever seen but I cannot get behind the initial chapters and the poor ecchi mechanic of skin touching for a battle manga. For me, that alone makes it fall under the same umbrella as that anime Seikon No Qwaser. I cannot take such works seriously and would rather not waste my time.
Do that for a gag like Bone Collection and I can move past it for the jokes. Battle manga, no way.

That's just me, anyway.
 

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Is that how Act-age is supposed to be pronounced, or does this guy simply not know how to say 'age'?
Well, in Japanese at least. They write it as "アクタージュ" (Akutāju). Usually, "Act" would be "アクト" (Akuto) and "Age" would be "エイジ" (Eiji).

Looking at it again, the "アクター" from "アクタージュ" is how you would put the word "actor" in to Katakana. And "ジュ" (ju) might mean the Kanji "寿", which means "age, years" with a "ju" reading.
 
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What Japanese character?

And why should he be the protagonist?
The Saga (Japanese) is the protagonist. But Chris (American) has more prominence.
 
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