Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[GARusashi]

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Toriko hasn't been interesting since the Puffer Whale arc. I think it just lost it's charm after that.

But then again, Naruto hasn't been good since the Chuunin exam and Bleach hasn't been good since midway through Soul Society, and they're still striving.

Hopefully Beezlebub and Akaboshi can surpass these mangas, though I doubt Akaboshi will make it long.

 

[kewl0210]

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What? How can you say this arc is boring? This is where the characters are finally developing outside the basic story. The earlier arcs were too short. It's finally gotten past the generic "let's go do something" kinda arcs and given meaning behind it with an enemy and the character's beliefs. The idea with the GT Robos is that there's an enemy that is not actually there, they fight without the risk of death. That and all the other things which have made the story original, like the characters ideals and goals and such. Plus it incorporates science and logic to how people are defeated, it's not straightforward and boring. It's given a lot more thought into its story than most mangas I've seen, plus its still kept in its original theme about food, but built on it with the gourmet cells.

Bleach tends to get episodic, but I find it still fairly interesting despite a lack of any character development, only examining the characters as they are because there are soooo many.

Naruto's current arc was good I thought until the end, which seemed like a cop out, "Because you chose not to kill me, I have decided to believe in you, now I'll just bring everyone back to life." Seemed somewhat forced. But now Naruto heads into its finale with Sasuke. It's leading to the story's end now.

 

[Koen]

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You know you guys but discussing these things in the manga's thread itself would be really good for the sole thread. But anyway I kinda agree with kewl toriko's current arc, and thus the manga itself, is highly amusing. Okay, it slightly walks the generic shounen path in that arc but that doesn't necessarily mean it loses my interest. I really can't understand you call it boring oO I think you can only judge this arc on what's going to come afterwards. But GT robots are definitely a cool ennemy

 

[Finestela]

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Okay, it slightly walks the generic shounen path in that arc but that doesn't necessarily mean it loses my interest.

Perhaps this is exactly the core of issue here? Toriko had this expectation of being "different". That's what made it stands out in the first place.

 

[andrewsungchehau]

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Just read the 1st 3 chapters of Akaboshi and it's quite good IMO. It reminds me of Fairy Tail(beginning chapters) and D Gray Man(109 Innocence and 108 people concept, also both involve war).

 

[Finestela]

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The 108 heros is because that's how it was in the novel

 

[andrewsungchehau]

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The 108 heros is because that's how it was in the novel

I see. Hope it gets better every chapter.

 

[Kaiten]

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Hopefully chapter 3 gets translated soon ^^

 

[Rock-a-Dillo]

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eh sorry, can i ask a question??

is the news about OP beating DB is true?? i mean even wiki has change it to best selling manga of all time??
but the source is in japanese, so does someone has the latest sells list

 

[Imitorar]

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Not on hand, but it's true. It was only a matter of time anyway. For years it's been obvious that One Piece would be longer than Dragon Ball, and that combined with its popularity meant that it was sure to outsell Dragon Ball eventually. It's the same reason that Kochikame has outsold everything but One Piece and Dragon Ball, sheer length helped. Although One Piece has sold an impressive amount for a 54 volume series, I don't know if its sales-per-volume average is higher than Dragon Ball's or not.

 

[Mr. Prince]

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That article is somewhat strange since it's generally about what children play nowadays...like in DBZ's time they mimicked scenes from Dragonball and stuff like that and the question was if it's the same with One Piece since it is quite popular according to sales' numbers and surveys.

I just skipped over it since it wasn't that interesting but the respective line is:
> 単行本全53巻の累計発行部数は1億5800万部で、日本のコミック発行部数の最高記録を達成中（2009年3月現在）。
Roughly: The 53 tankoubon got a number of 158 mio printed copies in total which is the highest number for any Japanese comic (as of March 09)

Correct me if I understood it wrong but I guess that's what it says.

 

[kewl0210]

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Longer than Kochikame? I think you meant it was obvious it would outsell it... Kochikame is like 160 volumes... One Piece is like a third of that and it's said to be past the half way point. Plus Kochikame isn't even ending any time soon.

 

[Imitorar]

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Longer than Kochikame? I think you meant it was obvious it would outsell it... Kochikame is like 160 volumes... One Piece is like a third of that and it's said to be past the half way point. Plus Kochikame isn't even ending any time soon.

Whoops, I meant longer than Dragon Ball. That's a very confusing typo, thanks for pointing that out...

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Hopefully chapter 3 gets translated soon ^^

Don't know if you are waiting for a specific group but chapter 3 eng scan from "I Eat Manga" is out
http://mangahelpers.com/s/i-eat-manga/readonline/32527/1
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From 1st 3 chapters Medaka Box looks be a series that will turn into a cushion for Psyren and Mago after Hoopman is cancelled.

 

[Elyon A. Luna]

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I hope the oneshot that was announced in this issue gets scanned/scanlated

Kibengakuha Yotsuya sensei no kaidan by Haruichi Furudate.

I have a thing for kaidan stories.

 

[SameOld]

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From 1st 3 chapters Medaka Box looks be a series that will turn into a cushion for Psyren and Mago after Hoopman is cancelled.

Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it will become everyone's cushion. Even though some people's initial reactions to it weren't exactly good, Medaka Box has the potential to become a huge hit. Besides having stuff japanese readers love to see (i.e. a female lead with a strong personality, some fighting here and there and, of course, fanservice), its premise makes it a highly adaptable series, so if it starts losing popularity and its sales drop, the writer can simply change the focus to whatever the readers are asking for, and soon it'll raise again.

That, and Psyren doesn't need a cushion anymore.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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I think we can hold off on the cushion talk until we see what Jump does after ES21 and Hoop Men ends. For all we know new series could come in and completely bomb thus being the cushion for Medaka Box and Akaboshi.

 

[Rock-a-Dillo]

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Not on hand, but it's true. It was only a matter of time anyway. For years it's been obvious that One Piece would be longer than Dragon Ball, and that combined with its popularity meant that it was sure to outsell Dragon Ball eventually. It's the same reason that Kochikame has outsold everything but One Piece and Dragon Ball, sheer length helped. Although One Piece has sold an impressive amount for a 54 volume series, I don't know if its sales-per-volume average is higher than Dragon Ball's or not.

umm but didn't DB last for 12 years also?? though each chapter only contain 14 pages
btw do you know when did the DB sale count last updated ?? did the count end the year DB ends or does it still being updated for every year after it ends to today??
i mean if it were still being updated, we don't really know how much did it sell when it ends

 

[Tru_TO]

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hey, can i ask a question?
When do you think One Piece will end?
Will it go for another 15 years?

 

[Kaiten]

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It will end when Oda wants it to end.