Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Finestela]

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Well... still... ranked or unranked, Gintama owned all of them If we have the real ranking for the CP's and absents, I'm pretty sure Gintama would still be at the top like it is

 

[Kaiten]

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I like gag, just not Jump gag If whatever this new series is fails, fine by me.

 

[Elyon A. Luna]

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Mago is 5!

I'm seeing stars...

Why are Naruto and Bleach unranked?

 

[Kaiten]

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Why are Naruto and Bleach unranked?

They get color this week.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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In my own opinion, three new series are going to be little difficult to become successful.

On Ane-Doki's case, Jump already has two romantic comedy series, Tolove-Ru and MedakaBox. Tolove-Ru already has pretty solid fan base, and MedakaBox is having a good start. So, I think three romantic comedy series are too much.

On Kagijin's case, Jump is master of battle manga, it alreday has about eleven battle mangas (including two hiatus series). I think there is no more space for extra battle manga.

On Wasshoi! Waji Mania's case, I think this series most likely be a gag-manga (well I might be wrong). Like other two new series, it has to compete against other gag mangas in Jump, like Gintama, KochiKame, Jaguar, Sket Dance, and Inumaru.

In conclusion, I think the editors should add series with genres that are not available in Jump, like mystery. Recently, Jump had a minor successful detective series, Neuro, so Jump should give more chance for mystery genre or other genres.

 

[Kaiten]

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Don't know, Kawashita - sensei is a big enough draw that her last series got an anime a year after ending. Ane - Doki should last a while. The other two......well, we'll see.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

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Gintama beats OP and gets first...

You know can anyone tell me when that last happened. I'm curious.

 

[[Cross]]

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Dunno if I said it in my post: 8 chapters back was a combination of a color page and the beginning of the battle between Gintoki & Jiraia, which could explain the bizarre top rank this time. Strangely enough, a major battle of this magnitude brings readers in even if the content before in the arc doesn't.

This be the most probable reason. Still went a little overboard, but with Gintama, you never know.

 

[Drmke]

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In conclusion, I think the editors should add series with genres that are not available in Jump, like mystery. Recently, Jump had a minor successful detective series, Neuro, so Jump should give more chance for mystery genre or other genres.

I completely agree. I mean hell, one (if not THE) most popular manga running in Sunday is Case Closed. If Jump could get even a half decent mystery manga going they could easily increase sales. But maybe a mystery with less supernatural elements which might be hard for the Jump audience but I would love to see it.

I mean even another sports manga would be better than over-piling the magazine with ten manga of the same general genre.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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^Well to be fair on the Sports side of things, they did serialize Meister, Kuroko, and Hoopmen this calendar year. Even though having 2 basketball manga at once wasn't a smart idea. That and it looks like Kuroko could possibly die just like Meister and Hoop.

Their next sports attempt might be in the next serialization round.

 

[Drmke]

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^Well to be fair on the Sports side of things, they did serialize Meister, Kuroko, and Hoopmen this calendar year. Even though having 2 basketball manga at once wasn't a smart idea. That and it looks like Kuroko could possibly die just like Meister and Hoop.

Their next sports attempt might be in the next serialization round.

True but I'm just saying a sports manga would probably have a better chance at lasting than an action, romance/comedy, or gag which will have to compete against plenty on manga of the same genre that have already built up a decent fan-base.

Just seems like they would wanna mix it up a little.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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True but I'm just saying a sports manga would probably have a better chance at lasting than an action, romance/comedy, or gag which will have to compete against plenty on manga of the same genre that have already built up a decent fan-base.

Just seems like they would wanna mix it up a little.

I guess it depends on what the current Jump readers that are voting and buying Tanks wants to read atm. The 3 most recent sports series haven't done well at all in comparison to ES21 and PoT. No need to even bring Slam Dunk's legend into the mix.

Neuro, despite being one of the better recent Jump series imo didn't have very high rankings either in its last 6 months or so.

I do agree that mixing it up more would be nice but if Jump's readership doesn't pay certain genres any mind atm we will probably keep seeing those genres die.

At least until someone capable comes along and blows the genre away or something.

 

[Kaiten]

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P2 is the only recent sports series, since I've been following, that's lasted a year. Every thing else has, until Kuroko, has ended quickly. Jump's readers just don't like sports. The editors must be doing something right, WSJ is the only anthology that gains readers every quarter.

 

[Drmke]

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The editors must be doing something right, WSJ is the only anthology that gains readers every quarter.

Well maybe if they continue to gain readers some of them will be willing to vote on a nice mystery series :P

 

[pandaaqueen]

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Japanese Comic Ranking, June 15-21

8 - One Piece #54 by Eiichiro Oda // 100,442 // 1,550,859 Shueisha
15 - Bleach #39 by Tite Kubo // 49,131 // 716,711 Shueisha
24 - D.Gray-man #18 by Katsura Hoshino // 36,537 // 428,299 Shueisha

 

[SSJWill4]

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Gintama beats OP and gets first...

You know can anyone tell me when that last happened. I'm curious.

The last legitimate win was Issue 19 of 2007

Spoiler

Bleach (cov, col)
Gintama
One Piece
Naruto
Reborn
Penguin
Eyeshield
Mx0
Bobobo-bo
Uchimizu Toru / Asklepios (one shot, col page; mangaka who did KAIN)
KochiKame
Samurai Usagi
To-LOVE
Neuro
PoT
Volleyball
Blue Dragon
P2!
Muhyo & Roji
Taizo
Jaguar
absent: HxH, D.Gray

It did get first more recently in issue 47 of 2008 when Naruto had the cover, but One Piece's manuscript was turned in late which penalized the ranking of the series.

 

[Tru_TO]

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will Togashi ever finish Hunter X Hunter? i really wanna know since i'm a huge fan.

 

[Heiji-sama]

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[StrangerAtaru]

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The main problem is this: Jump wants sports series (since all shonen have them in their mag), their fan base (well whoever votes or buys the tanks) don't. For the most part I guess we're stuck with a "certain genre" cause that's pretty much what the people who buy Jump invest in. (but then again they are the youngest-skewing of the major mags so you would expect more flash compared to a reader/voter/buyer of Magazine or Sunday)

 

[Finestela]

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Well... that's why Bakuman (damn it, we just can't get away from it, can we? ) brought up the idea of having a detective series in WSJ! Since WSS has Conan and WSM has Kindaichi