Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Rejuvenation]

Put me in the camp that thinks Bleach shouldn't have gotten so many covers as well. >.>

It doesn't need as many damn covers as it got with tank sales like this.

Spoiler

This months Jump manga sales:

1. Naruto 45: 710,879 copies

2. Bleach 37: 607,616

3. Reborn 23: 358,362

4. Gintama 27: 306,488

6. Toriko 3: 116,789

8. Jaguar 16: 88,069

13. Kochikame 163: 61,297

15. Neuro 20: 55,315

18. Shaman King Deluxe 24: 39,544

20. Shaman King Deluxe 23: 35,546

Despite being dreaded "minor characters fighting" Bleach 37 sells a little better then volume 36 (the gaiden). Reborn and Gintama also sold better then there last volumes. Toriko crosses the 100,000 mark, essentially solidifying it as a hit. At three volumes a piece Toriko and Mago are now almost even in sales. Consider both hits, though Bakuman is the best seller of all the new series. This is all first week sales from Oricon.

Its nice to see Toriko selling. I'd love for it to get higher in sales. Reborn sold a fair amount as well from the looks of it.

How did this volume of Bleach sell better than the Turn Back the Pendulum volume? The chapters in this volume suck.

I would have liked to see Shaman King sell a bit more.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

How did this volume of Bleach sell better than the Turn Back the Pendulum volume? The chapters in this volume suck.

I fear for the next volume...with the characters fighting in that volume fangirl favorites (who actually boosted Bleach to the top of the ranking one or two weeks during then), I'd be shocked if it doesn't sell well.

Personally I don't think OP gets too hyped coverwised compared to Bleach. OP has earned it's covers/CPs and usually gets them around the holidays with a few in between. Bleach...yeah, there isn't that much to celebrate aside from just keeping the series going. (well I think the biggest problem is a lot of the covers/colors were for TBTP and you have to acknowledge one or two for the movie)

 

[Cipo]

Please Vassili credit the source.
That cover was scanned by Littleshrimp and cleaned by Binktopia

 

[Crude]

Awesome cover! I love the colours, but isn't Kishimoto beginning to use less details in his colos?

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Psyren, Sket Dance and Mago can forget new covers when D.Gray-man and Neuro haven't had covers in FOREVER. Kochikame never gets any covers either and that's been going on forever.

 

[Rejuvenation]

I fear for the next volume...with the characters fighting in that volume fangirl favorites (who actually boosted Bleach to the top of the ranking one or two weeks during then), I'd be shocked if it doesn't sell well.

Personally I don't think OP gets too hyped coverwised compared to Bleach. OP has earned it's covers/CPs and usually gets them around the holidays with a few in between. Bleach...yeah, there isn't that much to celebrate aside from just keeping the series going. (well I think the biggest problem is a lot of the covers/colors were for TBTP and you have to acknowledge one or two for the movie)

I imagine that one would probably outsell Naruto and only be 2nd to One Piece that month.

I've never really thought OP got too many covers either strangely enough. It still just amazes me that they needed to do that much promoting for a series like Bleach which would be damn fine even if its tank sales were cut in half.

Psyren, Sket Dance and Mago can forget new covers when D.Gray-man and Neuro haven't had covers in FOREVER. Kochikame never gets any covers either and that's been going on forever.

Kochikame is immortal though and doesn't need to worry about promotion right? I'd rather another series like Mago, Psyren, or D.Gray-man get a cover than it.

 

[Kaiten]

Its nice to see Toriko selling. I'd love for it to get higher in sales. Reborn sold a fair amount as well from the looks of it.

How did this volume of Bleach sell better than the Turn Back the Pendulum volume? The chapters in this volume suck.

I would have liked to see Shaman King sell a bit more.

Remember Toriko has only had three volumes. Shipping 100,000+ copies of volume three is extraordinary. Very, very few series from any magazine ever sell that much. Sket Dance and Psyren have yet to sell that many. There is no doubt that Toriko, along with Bakuman and Mago will pass Eyeshield and ToRa with their next volumes. By the end of the year all three could be as popular as DGM, Reborn, and Gintama, or more. Bleach was just one of those things. Don't forget Shaman King is reissues, can't expect to much from it.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Remember Toriko has only had three volumes. Shipping 100,000+ copies of volume three is extraordinary. Very, very few series from any magazine ever sell that much. Sket Dance and Psyren have yet to sell that many. There is no doubt that Toriko, along with Bakuman and Mago will pass Eyeshield and ToRa with their next volumes. By the end of the year all three could be as popular as DGM, Reborn, and Gintama, or more. Bleach was just one of those things. Don't forget Shaman King is reissues, can't expect to much from it.

Ah, thanks for enlightening me on the state of things.

Regarding the last sentence, I know it can't be helped. That is just the Shaman King fan boy in me wanting higher numbers. XD

 

[StrangerAtaru]

About KochiKame: it still gets covers but it's a strange bird. The series gets them about every 50 chapters, just to flout how long the series has been around.

And speaking of which: anyone got the raws for the last few chapters? I am in a bit of a lull right now and I want to maybe try a chapter or two.

Edit: Hatsukoi's anime site is up: http://www.j-hatsukoi.com

 

[Kaiten]

I'm looking forward to Hatsukoi. I'm an Ichitard, I admit it. I know it's a strange choice to animate but it was such a fun series!

 

[Maxy Barnard]

hatsukois sites been up for a while

and good luck finding any current raws for jaguar kochikame or indash nowadays ¬_¬

 

[StrangerAtaru]

hatsukois sites been up for a while

and good luck finding any current raws for jaguar kochikame or indash nowadays ¬_¬

Well at least Neuro finally got last week's up: that has been the one series without raws for weeks now.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

which is nice for most people, but alas, it's a terrible time to be a fan of gag manga in the online community (outside of mr fullswing being on a pretty good schedule and old jaguar chapters getting scanlated at a pretty decent pace.... okay it's an okay time to be a fan of gag manga... less so a weekly fan of wsj gag manga)

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

which is nice for most people, but alas, it's a terrible time to be a fan of gag manga in the online community (outside of mr fullswing being on a pretty good schedule and old jaguar chapters getting scanlated at a pretty decent pace.... okay it's an okay time to be a fan of gag manga... less so a weekly fan of wsj gag manga)

I thought that Mr. Fullswing was a sports manga. Was I wrong?

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Mr. Full Swing is a hybrid: it's essentially a sports series with gags.

Unfortunately I think the biggest problem with gag manga in Jump is that it's the unique Japanese style of humor that is hard to really translate to American audiences. That's why they never seem to be translated as fast or get followings as soon as action series. Somehow I wouldn't mind throwing a couple people who are doing Naruto off and tell them "YOU'RE DOING JAGUAR OR INUMARU"...but I doubt I could ever do that.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I think people who scanlate series that are already being scanlated are fucking stupid. Why waste your time? It's not like Edited Manga takes a small amount of time. It's like trying to invent the wheel when we already have it.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Yeah, I feel the same way. But it's their life and their talent, so not much we can do.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

it's a shame my learning curve is so small, i'm nowhere near competent enough to handle inumaru dashi's translations (perhaps in about half a year i'll be able to at least understand more than just the gist of it) so all i can do is hope it gets picked up or make a request (something that has such a small chance of success that i'm not sure if i should try)


anyway more on topic Edited Mangas for this weeks jump are surfacing now, and once again make me wonder just how the TOC will look in 8 weeks (logically bleach will be just out the top 5, but fangirls of ulqiorra won't let that be

 

[Mr. Prince]

I have no interest in Inumaru but Jaguar is another pair of shoes...I'd been thinking about giving it a shot in the future...but yeah, it's like Ataru mentioned: unique Japanese style of humor...that's a tough job.
When I feel like trying and I'm confident enough in my skills, so that the final result won't suck ass: I'll let you know. *lol*

 

[VASSiLi]

Weekly Shounen Jump #12
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