Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Mr. Prince]

lol...Hoopmen's main char really cracks me up. This face is...I so hope he always looks like that. (Oh yeah, and his hair cut kinda reminds me of good ol' Eiji. Though Eiji's more wacky.)
Anyway, from the CPs I think it's superior to Kuroko (which didn't really catch me to this point).

Beelzebub's is also really very likeable - again.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

Dear god that guy's face. It feels like he's trying to eat my soul by staring at me. I'm not into sports manga so I guess you can tell what I'd rather see out...but I want that Baby satan (Bad with titles) color page as my wall paper. That would be sweet. And As much as it pains me to say this.... I kind of regret not translating it XD. Well kudos to the translator and scantlators!

 

[Maxy Barnard]

make up for it bomber, translate hoop men until the fear of the main character DESTROYS YOU XD

 

[Crude]

Hoop Men's art is prettier than I thought, although the main character looks funny and disturbing at the same time. It looks like he's got the exact same face in both the cover and colour pages.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Creepiest looking man character I have seen for a sports manga in a long time. XD

 

[fxu]

and ah crap rainbow text in the beelzebub colour page? that'll be confusing to replicate.....

It's actually pretty easy. Do a gradient with the color, and then do a gradient overlay.

 

[[Cross]]

whilst i do, simply cause both can possibly stand on their own merits

This might be true, Hoop Men might just try to fill a niche different than that of Kuroko, though both being a basketball series makes that harder.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

I like the cover page. Looks like I was a little pre-mature on the comdeming. The characters look really cool. I think you guys are overreacting on the smile thing...

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

make up for it bomber, translate hoop men until the fear of the main character DESTROYS YOU XD

XD I'd do that If I had an interest in Sports manga. Sadly I do not. Although I'm sure I'll see that guy's face in my dreams now. Though If Satan Baby continues to impress, I may nominate myself as back up translator.

 

[Xophien]

Since I don't want to be accused of cancelling sports mangas, and I'm too busy playing ****** games Hoop Men just doesn't leave me the impression it's gonna survive for long, I don't think I'll translate it. I'll still read the first chapter to make a proper opinion about it, but I'm not convinced at all by the spread page (and even if the character design looks better than in Kuroko, the action scenes in Kuroko are gorgeous for a beginner's work, so it's not like the whole art of Kuroko is to be discarded >.>)

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Hoop men looks like it's done by an assistant of Murata. Is that right?

 

[Mr. Prince]

Hoop men looks like it's done by an assistant of Murata. Is that right?

Just checked the Japanese Wikipedia: yupp! Murata's stated to be Kawaguchi's teacher.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Woot! Called it!

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Wow...assistants are popping up all over the place!

 

[Maxy Barnard]

it's a frequent recurrence, mainly because you rarely get a Naoshi off the bat, so assisstants are thought to be worth a shot, mainly due to industry experience(coincidentally what i believe to be the downfall of everyone's favourite newbie mangaka)... meister kinda proved otherwise to the experience helps thing but ah well.

 

[Rejuvenation]

I have to say that Beelzebub ended up being very entertaining. This just makes it harder for me to choose a manga to sacrifice when the next cuts come around. >_<

*Is still betting on Hoop Men to be the sacrificial lamb*

 

[Maxy Barnard]

i'm relishing the next cuts. no matter what, one group of fans is gonna suffer (hopes it's not the 80+ people who've favourited beelzebub on here.... rather... no there's no winning now that bokke-san is FINALLY getting good....)

oh shit i think i'm buggered whatever gets cut next time round.... if neuro has it's natural end that's fine... and presumably bokke-san will go, but the first 6 chapters may aswell take the blame for that one... other than that i can't see any other outcome than hoop men flopping, or beelzebub failing for some CRAZY reason.

gah am i relishing or dreading now? i like all of the things in danger a decent amount ¬_¬

 

[Rejuvenation]

I think its clear you are dreading it Noodles. XD

Neuro having a natural end and Hoop Men dying does save us until the next round of cuts. Maybe by that time Eyeshield 21 will be ready to end its run in Jump too.

One can dream I guess.

 

[Koen]

I agree with noodles but imo he's getting in it too fast . There has been cuts not so long ago. So I think it safe the next cut will be:
1. An asklepios/double arts/ hitomi / belmonde case: thinking about bokke-san (or kuroko but that seems off) getting a 15-30 chaps before the cut
2. A meister/m to Y/ ko sen case: beezelbub and/or hoop men
3. A mx0 case: call it the surprise case - manga that have a decent run but are cancelled (psyren? sket?)
4. A maison de penguin/yusha case: let's end the gag for another gag
5. A "natural" ending case

 

[xi0]

The only viable candidate that would be a sorta surprise for rule 3 is Tora, since it can pretty much end at any time and has been tanking for a while now. Yet, it still has been more successful than any other manga on the lower tier.